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DML Grille H Smart Kit WIP *COMPLETE Pics p.9* 05-03-09

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Posted by biffa on Friday, March 20, 2009 7:47 PM
Another one of my favourites Bill (aint all SPG's heh) i have the old dragon/kirin one in the stash with some PE so that is what i will build but i can definatly use this blog for reference still, plus i just like watching these things get built. Smile [:)]
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Posted by Geist on Friday, March 20, 2009 6:11 PM

I'll be watching this wbill. I have the M version on the stash.

 

 

Erik

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, March 20, 2009 6:08 PM

Tony, StickMan, thanks for the comments!

 Citadelgrad87 wrote:

How does the build clock deal work?  Are you just noting the time or are you actually starting a timer like a speed chess game?  

Bill, I take note of the start time using space on the back of the instruction sheet and then note the stop time. Calculate the hour time to the nearest quarter hour and voila! the session time is figured out. If I stop for a break or to do something on the forum, I deduct that time from the running session time. Not as exact as a chess clock but close enough due to the rounding it evens out.

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Posted by stick man on Friday, March 20, 2009 12:32 PM

This kit is in my top 5 "to get" kits this year I'll be waching your build very closely.

Smile [:)]

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Friday, March 20, 2009 12:05 PM

    You've started,YEEEAAAA. I got a start on this the other day and found the same sprue and sprocket problem. In fact one tooth on each was molded to the sprue. Pucker factor kicked in to seperate them.Big Smile [:D]

    Sorry,carry on

    Tony the Mutt

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Posted by I make stuff on Friday, March 20, 2009 11:37 AM

No distractions for me today, Bill.  Looks like you are on your way.

How does the build clock deal work?  Are you just noting the time or are you actually starting a timer like a speed chess game?  

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, March 20, 2009 10:55 AM

I had this all written up last night but got distracted and so didn't get around to posting it. Work started on this in the evening since there wasn't anything particularly good on TV, and began where it normally does with Step 1 dealing with the sprockets, idlers, and road wheels.

Each road wheel was removed from the sprue and has 4 connection points and a largish seam that needed to be sanded down. I used a flexible sanding board to accomplish this, one wheel at a time. The step instructions appear to give you an option of using two different types of sprockets and idlers but only one type is really correct for the Grille H. That's the "early" type that have holes in the sprockets (parts A3/A4) and the tear-drop shaped holes in the idlers (A5/A6). The sprockets in particular have difficult sprue attachment points, some so close to the guide teeth that they are almost integrated, so I cut them away from the sprue with enough of the stub remaining to allow their removal with a sharp knife vs. using sprue cutters for that job.

The sprockets are a two-part assembly with a small locating tab designed to help insure correct alignment but the tab is smaller than the socket so there's a little bit of play there. This can cause the sprocket teeth to not align properly which of course will cause problems when fitting the tracks, so I used 6 links of loose Magic tracks to insure that the sprockets were properly "gapped" to allow clearance of the link guide horns as well as proper fit and alignment of the teeth into the links. The track links were evenly spaced around the sprocket and left in place as the glue dried.  The idlers also use interlocking tabs, 2 instead of 1 like the sprockets, but these are also loose so care is needed to insure they too are properly aligned when installing.

The next little item was the addition of 3 bolt heads to the lower hull brace for the idler mount. The bolt heads come on sprue K and have to be carefully sliced off and then glued into position on the lower hull. Not something that will be readily seen on the finished build unless you flip it over, but it's there for the curious.

Continuing on with the suspension, the sub-assembly step that constructs the bogey mounts was assembled. The diagram here is a bit misleading...it seems to indicate that you can add the springs to the hull mount plate but that actually isn't possible until Step 6 because the post that the spring would attach to is molded onto the lower hull. The little gray arrow that points to the hole in the plate is marked as not to be glued...which doubles the irony because there's nothing to glue it to anyway! You are presented with the option of using either springs with the open slotted cover or the solid cover, the solid cover is the correct type as the slotted covers were used primarily on the early gun-tank versions while the solid cover was a later style. For those interested in super accuracy, both spring types feature 15 springs when the slotted cover type should only have 14 per the descriptions in Panzer Tracts No. 18. I attached the swing arms to both plates and carefully glued in the caps so that the arms would remain movable. This will help insure the road wheels sit level later on when they are installed. Since Step 6 is a long way off, I used a permanent marker to mark the two A13 plates since the instructions indicate it's important which set goes on which side.

Total session time: 2.5 hours

Total time to date: 2.5 hours

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Posted by mg.mikael on Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:54 PM
Ouuuuuuu..........I've seen this kit being advertised pretty much everywhere. Thus I can't wait to see you build it, wbill76!!!Big Smile [:D] Finally I get to see someone build this kit here in the forums, geez, I'm starting to feel impatient for the next update.Wink [;)]

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Posted by I make stuff on Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:38 PM
 wbill76 wrote:

Thanks for the encouragement Tony!

 Citadelgrad87 wrote:

Looking good, already.

I will watch this closely, Bill.

Bill 

Can't claim any credit for how it looks at this point...have to give that to the box art artist...I do like that scheme though, it's for a Kursk vehicle and looks promising. Wink [;)]

That's what I get for taking a work phone call while posting, got totally discombobulated, then came back and posted what I thought I should have said.

 

Belay that compliment.

Now, Bill, please post something in progress so I can cut and paste.

Bill   

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:07 PM

Wayne,

I work on the "one build at a time" principle, soooo when one is done the next one is on deck. Ron Goins is the true machine though...he's got a secret factory manned by magical creatures in his basement. Wink [;)]

Ibuild148, neat! It will be like a mini-GB...and hopefully I can hit the landmines first and save you the trouble in the process (if there are any that is). Glad to have you following along.

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Posted by IBuild148 on Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:55 PM

Bill,

As I always watch your builds closely I will be watching the progression on this one with more interest since I have just finished washing the parts to the same kit.

This will be my first 1/35 kit build so it will be nice to watch the teacher and follow along.

IBuildOne48

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:17 PM

Thanks for the encouragement Tony!

 Citadelgrad87 wrote:

Looking good, already.

I will watch this closely, Bill.

Bill 

Can't claim any credit for how it looks at this point...have to give that to the box art artist...I do like that scheme though, it's for a Kursk vehicle and looks promising. Wink [;)]

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Posted by I make stuff on Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:14 PM

Looking good, already.

I will watch this closely, Bill.

Bill 

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:39 PM

Big Smile [:D]

    Bill won't admit it but the reason for back to back SPGs is:

    He loves the MUTTBlush [:I]

    You know very well i'll be hanging on every word and picture.

 Thanks My Friend                                                                                                            Tony the Mutt

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:17 PM
 the doog wrote:
I was wondering how this one will stack up with the old kit of it that I have--was it Shanghai Dragon who released it about 10 years ago?

Or is this a brand new, never-before-offered kit molding? I just looked quickly through my stash but didn't see it quite readily pop out.

This particular kit is a totally all-new tooling (well, if you count the fact that it uses a lot of parts from the Pz 38t G kit) for the Grille H. The older kits go back all the way to the Kirin kit and then a couple of initial 6000 series releases by DML, you likely have one of those. After much reluctance I decided to seel the Kirin kit and goodies that I had accumulated on e-bay...from an In Box look, this kit is very good with all the advantages of modern molding technology apparent. Turned aluminum barrel w/ rifling, interior detail and engine, etc. We'll see how it builds up though! Wink [;)]

Steve, Marc, Eric, appreciate the interest and vote of confidence! This vehicle is one that I have wanted to build for a long time but never got around to it (see above re: e-bay). Very rare for me to do back-to-back builds of the same vehicle family but this case is an exception. Wink [;)]

 

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:50 AM
Sweet! This is one of the newest releases that I'd like to get someday. Look very forward to it.

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:03 AM

Besdies the fact I enjopy our build logs... I look foward to this one.  Had that in my grubby little paws but went with the Geschutzwagen 38M.  So I will be watching

 

Marc  

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Posted by panzerguy on Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:38 AM
  

    An OOB build by one of the best. All you anti AM guys pay attention.Wink [;)]

   Now this is something that I know I'm gonna enjoy.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:58 AM

Oh, too cool, Bill!

I ws wondering how this one will stack up with the old kit of it that I have--was it Shanghai Dragon who released it about 10 years ago?

Or is this a brand new, never-before-offered kit molding? I just looked quickly through my stash but didn't see it quite readily pop out.

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DML Grille H Smart Kit WIP *COMPLETE Pics p.9* 05-03-09
Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:44 AM

In the ongoing quest to reach 100 completed armor builds, this one is #95. DML's kit #6470 Sdkfz 138/1 Geschutzwagen 38 H fur sIG 33/1 Smart Kit or Grille H as it's better known. This is going to be a straight OOB project (one of my "Modelling New Years Resolutions").

Stay tuned for updates in the coming days. Wink [;)] I will use the "build time tracker" on this one as well for those curious.

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