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#6 Tristar Panzer 1 Ausf. A sd.Kfz.101 (Early) WIP

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, August 3, 2009 3:09 PM

 the doog wrote:
Hans and Franz said to muscle that flabby girly-panzer into shape! Big Smile [:D]

LOL!  No worries there it will behave I promise!

Nice to hear form you Karl!

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, August 3, 2009 3:09 PM
 model maniac 96 wrote:
 wbill76 wrote:

Edmund,

Sorry to hear about the issues you're having...it sounds like you might have gotten a heat-damaged kit with the amount of warpage you're experiencing. Tristar has a pretty solid reputation in the main so I hope this doesn't put you off their kits entirely!



Ditto, I am sorry about all the trouble you are having with the kit, and I was looking forward to this update so THANKS!


Thanks, Jim

 

Thanks Jim and Jilian for the kind words and upoort it appreciated and keeps me going!

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Posted by mg.mikael on Monday, August 3, 2009 5:19 PM

Sorry to hear about your kit being a bear(because of the warped parts.) Though you seem to  have gotten past those problems and your build is coming out quite nice.Thumbs Up [tup]Smile [:)] So are you gonna leave this build all buttoned up or are you gonna open up some of the hatches?

By the way, did you get my last PM update?

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, August 3, 2009 5:53 PM
Beat that thing into shape EdmundBig Smile [:D]  Hang in there and you will prevail.

Marc  

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, August 3, 2009 5:56 PM

Thanks Michael! I am going to leave the main turret open for the TC figure.  I left everything closed to help me straighten the warpage as much as I could.  I might leave off the side strips to the fenders to avoid dealing with that mess.  Do you think it will affect the overall look if I do that?

I did not get you rPM but I saved the link to my favorties so just let me know when to go look at it.  I really liked how you weathered the interior it looks quite exceptional!

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Posted by model maniac 96 on Monday, August 3, 2009 6:58 PM
 the doog wrote:
Hans and Franz said to muscle that flabby girly-panzer into shape! Big Smile [:D]



LOL!
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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:14 PM

 

Build Update:

Panzer 1 Build Hours:

Assembly: 15 hours

Painting & Weathering the interior: 6 Hours

Painting & Weathering the Exterior:  10

Aggregate Build Time: 31 hours

Hi everyone I almosted added a removing Warpage sub category but in the end just chalked it up to expererience.  California Bill talked me out of walking away from the whole thing yesterday and building a DML PZ.1 that I saw at my LHS when I stopped to buy some more paint. I am not used to being defeated especially by plastic so I worked last night until 3:30 am and took a vacation day and hit it hard today.

Here it is ready to paint with some shots with Cobra Commander! 

I primed it and basecoated it with three lights coats of Tamiya XF-63 German Grey and also lightened the last coat with a little light grey and white in order to add some color modulation. I also stressed the paint becasue I wanted it to show thorugh and not to show through pristine but beat up and abused.

I then used some Firm Hold Crew styling gel applied with a paint brush to the ares I wanted the paint to chip and show through.  I also use that on my hair everyday it does a great job and I highly recommend it. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I dryed the gel with my bench blow dryer and then mixed up a 80\20 mix of Model Master Acryl Armor Sand and White Primer.  I painted three light coats and then waited one hour.

I then took my old toothbrush which I used to use everyday and a bowl of water and started scrubbing.  I also used a stiff metal brush and stippled it on the areas I wanted to chip and weather.

I chose to use MIG Productions Dry Transfers because I wanted to weather and age them and was not sure how to do that with regular water slide decals other than sealing them and weathring over the top.  It took a couple to get it right and old and faded enough.

I then applied two light coats of Model Master Flat Clear Acryl to seal the paint job and the upper hull is ready for final details and weatehring. 

My next steps will be the muffler and pioneer tools.  I might add a filedmod scratch built jerry can rack to the back as well.

I am back!!

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Posted by mg.mikael on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:43 PM

Love the sand-blasted look of your Panzer, Schnobs!!Thumbs Up [tup] I can safely say mine won't be as heavily weathered as yours. Yikes, you steamed way ahead of me in the building/painting department. I'm still working on the interior and just started the washes on the lower hull....how's that for slow.Wink [;)] 

By the way, did you drill out those machine gun barrels? Another question, did you use the PE parts for those rear engine screens?Question [?]

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:49 PM
 mg.mikael wrote:

Love the sand-blasted look of your Panzer, Schnobs!!Thumbs Up [tup] I can safely say mine won't be as heavily weathered as yours. Yikes, you steamed way ahead of me in the building/painting department. I'm still working on the interior and just started the washes on the lower hull....how's that for slow.Wink [;)] 

By the way, did you drill out those machine gun barrels? Another question, did you use the PE parts for those rear engine screens?Question [?]

Hey Michael glad you like it!  I know it is not to everyones taste but i wanted an over the top old relic of a dinosaur of the desert and I think I am going to get there. 

I am goign to have to try to drill them out in place becasue my mind and hands and clamps were occupied trying to keep it straight.  No I didn't actually.  I am working on the PE for the muffler gaurd as I type.

Do you need them my friend?  There yours if you want them..

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Posted by mg.mikael on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 10:02 PM
 Schnobs wrote:
 mg.mikael wrote:

Love the sand-blasted look of your Panzer, Schnobs!!Thumbs Up [tup] I can safely say mine won't be as heavily weathered as yours. Yikes, you steamed way ahead of me in the building/painting department. I'm still working on the interior and just started the washes on the lower hull....how's that for slow.Wink [;)] 

By the way, did you drill out those machine gun barrels? Another question, did you use the PE parts for those rear engine screens?Question [?]

Hey Michael glad you like it!  I know it is not to everyones taste but i wanted an over the top old relic of a dinosaur of the desert and I think I am going to get there. 

I am goign to have to try to drill them out in place becasue my mind and hands and clamps were occupied trying to keep it straight.  No I didn't actually.  I am working on the PE for the muffler gaurd as I type.

Do you need them my friend?  There yours if you want them..

No thanks, I still got my kit supplied PE in the box and I'm still quite far from that point anyways. (construction for me will be moving to the tracks next. Oh boy what fun!Big Smile [:D])

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Posted by I make stuff on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 10:21 PM

OK, I know we discussed this, and I know I told you it would turn out fine with your skills...

but WOW I really REALLY like the sandblasted effect, the markings, Cobra Commander, man, the only possible was to make this build better would be...

I gotta have more dinosaur!

Keep it up man, I think I see the finish line over those low hills;

Bill     

 

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:42 AM
 agentg wrote:

NICE!!!

That's the same hair gel I use for the chipping. Great minds do think alike.lol

I used laquer spray for the basecoat, so the water wouldn't cause issues. How did the acrylic gray hold up? How long did you let it sit before the gel and desert tan?

 

Hey Wayne!  Thanks man it was a blast!  I let the basecoat set up overnight so 6-8 hours lets say.  I had a few spots that went down to plastic but not that many.  I just touched them up by hand before I flat coated and sealed it.  You must have squared away hair for a reasonable price like me! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:59 AM
 Citadelgrad87 wrote:

OK, I know we discussed this, and I know I told you it would turn out fine with your skills...

but WOW I really REALLY like the sandblasted effect, the markings, Cobra Commander, man, the only possible was to make this build better would be...

I gotta have more dinosaur!

Keep it up man, I think I see the finish line over those low hills;

Bill     

Thanks Bill and the Triceratops is strirring in the box believe me.  Thanks for hangin in there with me on this one.

Build Update:

Panzer 1 Build Hours:

Assembly: 15 hours

Painting & Weathering the interior: 6 Hours

Painting & Weathering the Exterior:  15

Aggregate Build Time: 36 hours

Hi everyone I kept my inertia going and concentrated on the muffler and a few other upper hull details. I add texture to the muffler with  Mr. Surfacer 1000, followed by MM Gunmetal  Non-Buffing metalizer, some dry brushing with MM  Steel Non-Buffing Metalizer, and finally a couple of Burnt Umber Dry brushes as well.  I also added a couple of washes of Old Rust and Track Borown Mig Pigments to finish it off.

I then Air brushed the Photo Etch Muffler cage and mounted that.  I rolled it on a 1\4 inch dowel and it turned out okay.

I then worked on the MG barrels and the turret hatch cover.  Wild Bill before you say it I still have t paint the leather pad but you can say it if you want it will remind me of the early days. Smile [:)]

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, August 6, 2009 9:19 AM
WOW!!  Despite all the issues you had, this kit is really turning into a spectacular build.  You have definately become one of the top builders on this site, Edmund.  I really admire your work!  I particularly like your build logs - very wbill-esque...  Kudos to you! Thumbs Up [tup]Bow [bow]

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, August 6, 2009 9:54 AM
Looking good Edmund! I won't say anything about the leather pad but will say that the hoses that connect the mufflers to the engine are rubber and not metal so shouldn't be rusted along with the rest. Big Smile [:D] Wink [;)] It's a commonly overlooked thing as most just assume that the whole thing is metal but easy to fix.
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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, August 6, 2009 10:36 AM

 bbrowniii wrote:
WOW!!  Despite all the issues you had, this kit is really turning into a spectacular build.  You have definately become one of the top builders on this site, Edmund.  I really admire your work!  I particularly like your build logs - very wbill-esque...  Kudos to you! Thumbs Up [tup]Bow [bow]

Wow squared Boyd that was a very nice thing to type! Wink [;)] I admire and respect the guys that make me sit back in wonder at their Mastery of the Detail.  Guys like Karl, Rick, Julian, Manny, Wbill, Rob and his wrecks, I could go on and on.  I will settle for being Wbill-esque anyday of the week!  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, August 6, 2009 10:46 AM

 wbill76 wrote:
Looking good Edmund! I won't say anything about the leather pad but will say that the hoses that connect the mufflers to the engine are rubber and not metal so shouldn't be rusted along with the rest. Big Smile [:D] Wink [;)] It's a commonly overlooked thing as most just assume that the whole thing is metal but easy to fix.

LOL!  Now I know I am back in the groove.  Bill tactfully and calmly pointing out my errors and after I stop Banged Head [banghead] I will cheerfully correct it.  Thanks for the heads up on that Bill.  I have A Panzer Aces bottle of Rubber I can use.  Question what about the hose in the front is that rubber as well I assume?

Do you think I nailed the texture and color of the muffler Sir?

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:58 PM

Edmund,

Mufflers look good, texture and color are very realistic IMHO without being overdone. Thumbs Up [tup]

You're right about the hose up front on the glacis, that should be rubber as well. It's an air vent hose for the brakes.

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:15 PM
 wbill76 wrote:

Edmund,

Mufflers look good, texture and color are very realistic IMHO without being overdone. Thumbs Up [tup]

You're right about the hose up front on the glacis, that should be rubber as well. It's an air vent hose for the brakes.

Music to my ears Bill thanks and I was wondering what that hose was for.....

I missed your comments on my build.  You my friend are an appreciated constant!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:19 PM
Very nicely done...hair-oil for a covering medium? Ingenious...anything that works! Makes for some good chipping...nice build log; helps keep things more interesting and informative. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by mg.mikael on Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:28 PM
Those mufflers look fantastic, too bad those PE screens cover up most of your hard work. Nevertheless, they still are lookin' spiffy.Wink [;)]

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:41 PM

Thanks Manny!  I have read many postings about the hair spray method and tried it once before in a limited way and I was not impressed with it because I could not control it.  Michael (AgentG) had just posted using Hair Gel for a DAK build he is doing so I thought what the heck!  I figured if it went too bad I would just buy the DML kit and start over.

It's wierd though having the chipping done for the most part before it is even finsihed being assembled and before I have even laid down a filter or pin wash.  I feel like a teenager that's taken the car without permission but still has to park it in the driveway at the end of the night.

I figured this would be a great way to do a winterwash as well down the road.

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:44 PM

 mg.mikael wrote:
Those mufflers look fantastic, too bad those PE screens cover up most of your hard work. Nevertheless, they still are lookin' spiffy.Wink [;)]

Spiffy?  Cool!!  Thanks Michael and you are right but my next PZ.IV will be showing off her dusty textured rearend for the whole world to see. The PZ.I is immature and more modest.

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:48 PM
WOW Edmund tjhis is really shaping up into something special.  Lovin' all aspects of it.

Marc  

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, August 6, 2009 2:18 PM

 wing_nut wrote:
WOW Edmund tjhis is really shaping up into something special.  Lovin' all aspects of it.

Thanks Marc that's high praise coming from you!  I hope your eyesight has not been affected by all that 1/72 scale building you have been doing!  Confused [%-)]

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Posted by Bodge on Thursday, August 6, 2009 2:38 PM
Edmund you are sure producing some fine models these days and this is no exception. Really like what youve done with this one and your skills are really progressing with every build. i will be watchin out for more and i think im gonna be jealouse of the end resultThumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, August 6, 2009 2:48 PM

 Bodge wrote:
Edmund you are sure producing some fine models these days and this is no exception. Really like what youve done with this one and your skills are really progressing with every build. i will be watchin out for more and i think im gonna be jealouse of the end resultThumbs Up [tup]

Thanks for the kind words and support my Friend over the Pond!  This one has been the most challenging so far that's for sure but with great challenge comes great reward.  I am looking forward to the Fruils on this one.  I am going to use Blacken -it so it shoudl bee fun. My wife gave me the whole upcoming weekend to model my head off because I have been souch a good boy!! 

Life is Good!!

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Posted by Bodge on Thursday, August 6, 2009 3:25 PM
Keeping the women happy is both rewarding to her and to you because when my wife,s happy and things are running sweet then the modelling and everything else i get up to seems to be sweet and concentration seems to be at its highest, plus i love keeping her happy because it makes me happy and then as you say life is good. Plus your a long time dead so enjoy yourself while your here  life,s for livinThumbs Up [tup]If i was over that side of the pond i would sure like to meet up with some of you guys and see some of your work in person especially at a show . it would be great.
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Posted by Schnobs on Friday, August 7, 2009 1:20 AM

Love Vegas I have  been there once for a Spritual Conference a couple of years ago.  Strange Place for a Spritual Conference but I had a blast.  I don't drink or gamble but had a blast watching other people doing plenty for everyone!

Build Update:

Panzer 1 Build Hours:

Assembly: 16 hours

Painting & Weathering the interior: 6 Hours

Painting & Weathering the Exterior: 19

Aggregate Build Time: 41 hours

I continued the hard fight tonight and first corrected the mistake on the rubber hoses as pointed out so graciously by Wbill.   I of course used Panzer Aces Dark Rubber and dry brushed Light Rubber.

I then applied some Mr. Surfacer 1000 to create the leather texture and then painted it with a mix of Black and Leather Brown and then dry brushed with German Cam Pale Brown.

I then mounted the road wheels, drive wheels and the remaining support struts.

Here is some pictures in the Plunkinator.  Reminder I have not applied any weathering yet  I am planning to wait to mount the tracks and then weather everything together.

I lost the main headlight to the garage monster tonight when I removed it to detail it.  If anyone has suggestions where I can find a replacement  or how to scratch build one please point the way!

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Posted by I make stuff on Friday, August 7, 2009 1:24 AM

Now I see the grey, man that effect is nice.  Thanks for the phone toot on Mr Surfacer, too.

Moving swiftly along, and looking great.

Bill

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