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DML Sdkfz 164 Nashorn COMPLETE pics p.14 03-13-10

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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, February 8, 2010 7:28 PM

 

Bill thats one nice rack you got there! (this seems to be the running gag on the armor forums latelyWhistling)

Seriously though those shells and that radio are really going to be as much a highlight of the interior as the gun itself!

 

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, February 8, 2010 3:55 PM

panzer88, thanks for the comments!

Mike, never fear, the wear is there on the recoil sled. The little stub portion that sticks out has the contact surfaces painted with Steel but it doesn't show up too well in the pics due to the angle and their short length. Once it's weathered and complete I think the contrast will show it off a bit more. The gun sits very far back on the sled due to its overall length so there's not much of the recoil sled there exposed as a result. The elevating and traversing gears are hidden away under the gun and aren't visible even though the parts are there. If they were visible I would've painted their steel contact surfaces as well though. I've got to stay on top of my gun details with you sharp-eyed arty guys around ya know! Wink Can't have another equilibrator lapse on my record. Smile

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, February 8, 2010 3:46 PM

Bill - The rounds look good and the breech area looks great.

You need some ware on the recoil sled, needs to be a shiny steel color. Not sure looking at the gun exactly where that is. Also I cannot see the elevating and traversing gears....those too should be a steel color.

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Posted by panzer88 on Monday, February 8, 2010 2:59 PM

Shaping up real nice. Awesome job on the radios and those shells are real purdy too.

     

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, February 8, 2010 12:21 PM

Thanks Edmund! Don't telly our wife that you're admiring another man's shells, she might not understand! Propeller

The fighting compartment offers a lot of opportunity for detailing. I found the two ammo cans that disappeared...they were in the kitchen on the floor under the table which means only one thing...one of the cats took them off the bench when I wasn't looking. Normally the door to the office/workbench is closed when I'm not in there but with the paint work on Sat I did a lot of shuffling in and out, so they had to have swiped in during one of those intervals. Thieving felines! Big Smile

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, February 8, 2010 10:28 AM

Hi Bill,

I have Been watching this one closely than I realized I haven't posted in awhile so here I am to spread cheer and encouragement!

Your shells are beautiful!  Big Smile  Actually they are quite remarkable.  Love the breech details as well.  You will have another Shelf Queen here for sure!

Yes

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 10:04 PM

Superbowl Sunday notwithstanding, I did manage to get some detail work done today before everything shut down at 4 pm MST. First order of business involved the radios, the styrene patches and sides were painted a field gray using a custom mix of 50-50 Russian Armor Green and Panzer Schwarzgrau to restore their look and the support frames painted hull color. I attached them to the side of the loader's ammo bin with CA gel and then added the necessary wiring using 0.5mm solder to connect them up together and to provide connections to the transformer/power supply as well as the radio antenna. The rubber base of the antenna mount was also detailed and I positioned the headphones on top of the top set so that it wouldn't interfere with the ammo doors. I also repositioned the head phone wiring and touched it up here and there with Flat Red where some of the paint had flaked off due to handling.

I separate the warhead portion of the ammo from the brass casings and detailed them by hand for the different types of ammo. The HE rounds were painted with Deep Yellow and Steel for their fuse caps, the AP rounds were painted with non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal and the caps painted with Flat Light Gray, and the special tungsten core rounds with Panzer Schwarzgrau for a little variety.

The rounds were then loaded into the bin one at a time using small amounts of CA gel at the base to secure them in place. Once each round had set solid, it's partner was added next to it until the bin was fully loaded with 8 rounds. I still need to add the little PE retaining ends to the front supports and will do that before the bin is installed in place in the compartment.

I also got some of the details on the gun finished in the form of the gunner's sight and elevation/traverse wheels. The leather head pad was painted with a base coat of Italian Dark brown and then lightly dry brushed with enamel Gunmetal and the 50-50 mix of Dunkelgelb/Light Gray. I then counter-dry brushed the Italian Dark Brown to blend it back together and provide some subtle variation. The breech was also detailed using enamel Silver to round things out for now.

Still need to do some more weathering work on the gun before it's ready to be joined up with the splinter shield and installed into the fighting compartment but it's getting closer.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 9:48 PM

Thanks Manny! Definitely have to watch out for those angry mobs...you never know who they will go after next! Big Smile

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 7, 2010 12:02 PM

Very nice horn...nice blog, as we've come to expect from you, so don't stop or the angry mob will come to your house carrying torches...Wink

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 11:04 AM

Steve, yep, it's huge! And that's even after they lengthened the standard Pz IV hull to accomodate the design! Propeller

You and Wayne will have to wait a while though for the camo...that's still some ways off in the distance but at least it's now visible on the horizon! Wink

Terry, good to see you! I'd been wondering where you had gotten off to lately! Thanks for the comments and hope you can drop by more often. Yes

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  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Saturday, February 6, 2010 9:07 PM

Great progress so far Bill.. I haven't been round too much lately so to drop by and see the progress was great. I don't think that open top vehicles can be beat. Just great.

Terry.

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Posted by panzerguy on Saturday, February 6, 2010 8:39 PM

 

Wow! I had no idea that the gun is longer than the vehicleSurprise.

Sorry Bill but I wont be happy till I see some cammoWink

          

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, February 6, 2010 8:11 PM

Thanks guys for dropping in and I definitely feel your pain Mike and Tony! As Wayne suggests, the weather isn't going to hold and I had to make the most of it. Wasn't trying to gloat by any stretch...temps were in the high 60s and clear skies but we're going to get hit hard tomorrow and Monday with rain and cold (for here) weather. Certainly didn't feel like February today that's for sure but it will tomorrow!

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Saturday, February 6, 2010 6:12 PM

Bill I won't repeat what Catherine said you could do with your "Gorgeous Weather" Zip it!

You've really done a nice clean job of building sir.

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by redleg12 on Saturday, February 6, 2010 6:06 PM

OK.....first, I think you should consider the rest of us when you talk about nice weather.....six inches of snow here with about 0 degree wind chill.....had to spend 2 hours clearing the driveway and two hours warming up.....I'm jelousCrying

Now that I have that off my chest.....looking good. It was great to get a small sniff of thinner before the super bowl.

I'm looking at the gun......Geeked

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, February 6, 2010 5:45 PM

Weather was absolutely gorgeous today so I made the most of it. All of the different components were assembled and made ready for painting. Here's how it looked pre-paint...and before I attached several of the pieces to strips of masking tape to make it easier to handle them during painting. The open ammo bin is just posed in place for the photo and is still separate to facilitate the loading of the ammo later. You can also see that I added the PE welded on patch to the splinter shield that covers the unused direct gun-sight opening. To fit that patch, I had to anneal the PE over an open flame and use the slight curve of the shield to get it to conform properly, otherwise it would've stuck out at the edges vs. look truly welded in place.

Everything received a primer coat of MM enamel Italian Dark Brown applied by airbrush followed by a base coat of a 50-50 mix of MM enamel Panzer Dunkelgelb/Light Gray also by airbrush. Originally I was only going to paint the internal surface areas but decided that now was the best time to paint the gun barrel and splinter shield external surfaces since I won't have nearly the same flexibility later on once they are installed. This will need some time to cure up before I go at the weathering so will sit for a while. Tomorrow I'll work on getting more of the details painted up, particularly on the main gun, and ready to go prior to the Super Bowl.

Hopefully this will be enough for Rob and the others to stave off their painting cravings! Big Smile Propeller

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, February 5, 2010 10:08 PM

Thanks Dave and Eric! Appreciate the comments and have to agree with you about the sheer size of the gun...when it's set side-by-side with the hull it's still longer by several mm when measured from breech to muzzle brake!

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, February 5, 2010 8:13 PM

I'll tell you, that 88mm just looks so darn huge when you can see the entire gun, rather then half of it hidden in the turret. I really feel for the poor Allied tankmen that had to face it in their underarmored tanks. Sad

Great work and detail as always Bill.

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Posted by hughes2682 on Friday, February 5, 2010 7:02 PM

Bill,

I am seriously grooving on what you're gotten thus far!Cool I like the look of that big ol' 88 perched on that chassis.  Looking forward to more on this beastie.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, February 5, 2010 2:02 PM

Thanks Marc, appreciate the commments! Beer

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, February 5, 2010 6:31 AM

Had some catching up to do on this one.  And I do like what I see for sure.

Marc  

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, February 4, 2010 7:58 PM

Thanks Steve! We'll see about the next update...probably before vs. after the Super Bowl since it starts at 4 pm for me in the afternoon. Big Smile

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Posted by panzerguy on Thursday, February 4, 2010 6:42 PM

  Whens DML gonna learn, 'You can't trip up Mr. Plunk'Super Angry! Now just give up and start printing those Censored instructions right!

   Looking forward to seeing this weekends update Bill. Immediately following the super bowl rightWink?

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, February 4, 2010 9:39 AM

Hey Marc! This one's been running for a couple of weeks now, glad you found it before it's too late! Big Smile

Wayne, thanks as well...I too am looking forward to the painting and detailing of the interior. Lots of stuff to add once the base coat is on. Beer

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, February 4, 2010 8:16 AM

Jeepers Bill, when did you start this guy? I need to go back through the whole thread when I get a chance. Nice work. Big Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 10:22 PM

Tony, Mike, IB, thanks for the comments. It's unusual for me to work during the week but this stuff was small enough that I could tackle it in small chunks. That and the fact that the weather forecast for this weekend is warm and sunny in between rain storms is giving me extra motivation to be ready to paint! Wink

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Posted by IBuild148 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 8:11 PM

Bill,

When I watch and read your WIP all I can do is Bang HeadBang HeadBang HeadBang HeadBang HeadBang Head

and then take the

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 6:47 PM

Nice details.....glad to see you are not lying down on the job!!Wink

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 6:18 PM

Man,you've been a busy little bee haven't we.Big Smile

This weekend huh, i'll be waiting.

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 5:15 PM

I've been working on some of the additional details in preparation for painting the interior this weekend and after studying some of the photos in Nuts & Bolts 14 I decided to configure mine as a command vehicle. This meant adding the missing radio transmitter and receiver sets which I scrounged from an older Skdfz 251/23 build that had gotten damaged and was now a source for parts which is why they look partially painted/detailed. They had the added bonus in the form of a headset that I had already wired into them so that saved me some work this time around.

The radios were originally molded together in a rack so I had to cut them apart and patch the top and bottom with sheet styrene since they were hollow on the inside. Due to the way the space on the loader's ammo bin is designed, the two sets don't sit perfectly in parallel with each other but instead are slightly staggered to accommodate the angled side wall. The DML PE fret included a single standard radio rack holder but it was too small so I scratchbuilt some frames using strips of left over brass from an old PE fret bent to shape and glued in place with CA gel. I used small amounts of poster blue-tack putty to test fit their configuration.

I also added the DML provided PE rain guard and the instruction diagram isn't as clear as it should be on how it needs to be installed. It actually has to be inserted under the folded-up doors on the ammo bin in order to be the right length and not just glued to the side of the bin like the diagram suggests. The top part also shouldn't be straight, it needs a slight angle to it in order to meet up properly with the rear compartment plate.

In test fitting this with the side and rear plate I realized that I had the stowed antenna rack in the incorrect position. This error came about due to the picture in the instructions showing it lower than it actually needs to be, so I popped it off and repositioned it at the correct height and angle. I also added the mount for the power transformer that goes under the radio sets, this was also salvaged from the previous build and the transformer itself is still loose so I won't have to repaint it after the interior is painted. I had to move the lower half of the set up just a bit for it to clear but everything still plays nice together in the end.

Since the rack has the command antenna set stowed, I decided to leave it that way but still needed to add the base of the antenna itself onto the rain guard. The kit doesn't provide these parts so I scrounged in the spares bin and found an unused antenna rubber base and mount, assembled them, and then installed it to the rain guard with Gator Grip glue so I could get it in the right position. A test fit with the rear plate shows everything is working well together. The ammo bin is also just dry fit and will be painted separately to facilitate loading the ammo and adding the remaining details to the holders before it gets permanently added to the fighting compartment.

The last remaining piece of the fighting compartment interior were the small angled portions at the front. These are called out in the final step of the instructions in Step 25 and they need to receive the curved inner splash guards before they are ready for install. The instruction diagrams contain an error though in that the parts that need to be added to the plates have their numbers reversed...so parts C7 and C17 need to actually go on part C15 and not C14.

I also decided to add the small optics container to the inside of the main curved splinter shield. Some Nashorns had it while others didn't based on the two surviving vehicles in Kubinka and Aberdeen and the parts are available on the D sprue but marked as not for use. Since the Kubinka vehicle only has one and not two fitted, I only fitted the one to the gunner's side and left the other off.

Everything is now ready to paint this weekend as these were the last things I needed to square away before firing up the compressor.

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