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DML Sdkfz 164 Nashorn COMPLETE pics p.14 03-13-10

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:43 AM

Bill - Very nice work on the gun.....my favorite part. Wink

Your descriptions are as usual are great. My only comment would be in the description of the "elevating pistons" which are normally called "equalibrators". The purpose is to "equalize" the pressure or torque on the elevating gear no matter what position the barrel is in. The equalibrators are normally pistons or combination of pistions and springs.

The equalibrators allow the uniform elevation and depression of the barrel and also alow it to stay in place when the elevation is set.

Just being anal....and now back to Bill's great build!!

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:22 AM

Looks like it's starting to take shape now, Bill---make sure you get that barrel straight!

You wanna go mad, try matching up three or four different resin pieces from the Verlinden set with no locating holes or tabs to speak of, and sloppy tolerances in the fit! You're probably more sane at the outcome of this build than you might otherwiise have been going that route like I did!

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Posted by model maniac 96 on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:12 AM

SWEET,  I really like those tracks, are the modelkasten tracks really good?

 

 

        Thanks, Jim

"Veni, Vidi, Vici" Julius Caesar: I came, I saw, I conquered.
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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:07 PM

As promised, I managed to get the MK tracks built for both sides between the last update and this one. I assembled 102 links per side and will wait until it's time for the installation to see exactly how many links I will need and add the extras then.

Returning today to the instructions, I picked up at Step 7 which starts work on the 8.8cm gun. Even though the Premium kit includes an aluminum barrel, the breech and first half of the gun are styrene and are a two-part assembly. I glued the two halves together with regular glue and then very carefully sanded the seam on either side with a sanding twig. The block itself required sanding as well to get a seamless look in several places and the semi-auto breech cylinder was added. I also assembled the breech and test fit it but didn't glue it into place since it will be easier to paint separately later on.

Step 8 assembles the recoil sled and tray I went ahead and attached the rear half of the gun to the sled before I added the barrel itself. This was to help insure that when I installed the barrel, I had the brake lined up properly. Most of the tray is hidden by the sled but the rear-most portion is exposed so I sanded that area to remove the join seam from the two tray halves. The undersides of the tray that are visible on the exterior of the vehicle as well as the interior fighting compartment were puttied and sanded smooth. A small amount of putty was needed at the front where the attachment point from the tray to the barrel meets up with the sled since DML designed this as a separate part vs. it being integrated with the sled on the real deal.

With all that taken care of, I assembled the slide-molded multi-part muzzle brake and sanded the join line at the top and bottom smooth with a sanding twig. The muzzle brake was installed to the aluminum barrel with CA gel and then the barrel itself installed to the rear half also with CA gel. The clamp for the travel lock was added after everything was set up with liquid glue and carefully adjusted so it lined up straight with the underside.

That led to Step 9 which added the two halves of the recoil cylinder. The join at the top of the cylinder was carefully sanded down with a sanding twig to create a seamless surface.

Step 10 assembles the equilibrator pistons and attaches them to the gun but there is a little bit of a head scratcher here since the lower arms of the pistons aren't supposed to be glued into position to allow the gun to properly elevate. The head scratcher is that the unglued lower portions don't have anything to hold on to until the side plates of the gun mount are added in the next step! I assembled the cylinders and added them but left the pistons off for the moment. The small curved portion of the splinter shield is also added to the top of the gun in this step however mine had a slight sink hole in the face that required some putty work and sanding to correct before it could be installed.

Step 11 adds the base and side plates for the gun mount. While the instructions don't indicate this, if you don't apply glue at the top points where it attaches to the swivel pins, the gun can be freely elevated instead of fixed in position. The lower portions of the equilibrator pistons were added as well now that they had a place to attach to.

Step 12 starts to add the details to the mount itself, dealing with the left side first. The front support plate for the curved splinter shield is installed along with the recoil guard for the gunner, the elevation and traverse wheels, and the gunner's seat and its mount. Many of these parts are delicate and I had to think through exactly how I wanted to install them since the photo shows many of them already in place. I opted to install the wheel mounts first, then add the wheels, then add the gunner's seat and mount to avoid running out of room to maneuver in the process.

Step 13 adds the details for the right side of the mount. The side plate for the splinter shield is added here also along with the auxiliary traverse wheel for the loader.

Step 14 is a delicate step in that it adds the supports for the curved splinter shield to the sides of the gun mount. I say delicate because the attachment points for the top and bottom supports on either side are small so until the glue sets they want to sag a bit under their own weight. I left the shield itself off for now to make it easier to get in and paint all the nooks and crannies.

Rounding out the gun construction was Step 15. This added the top crash bar to prevent the gun from being elevated too high as well as the gunner's sight. It took me a little while to figure out exactly how to assemble the 3 parts that make up the sight mount and base since the photo shows them already assembled but eventually I got it sorted out. I drilled out the top face of the sight with a drill bit and pin vise and also drilled out the eyepiece on the bottom with a #68 finger drill before adding the leather head pad.

Next up will start work on the fighting compartment!

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:41 AM

Thanks Andy! The Nashorn seems to be a general crowd favorite! Wink

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:52 PM

Looking great wbill!  Hummel is one of my fav open top vehicles... body looks pretty same to your Nashorn so I wll be watching your work very closely as usual.  Best news... I already have the kit so no worries about me and my wife thing. LOL 

Andy

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:34 PM

Thanks Jim, appreciate the comments! Beer

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Posted by EliteModelling on Monday, January 25, 2010 7:31 PM

i have to say the Marder III Ausf M is my favorite open top vehicle. the Dragon Marder is a very nice model(high recommendation) . many details. 

-Adam J.

 

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Posted by model maniac 96 on Monday, January 25, 2010 6:02 PM

Wow, that is looking real good!! The Nashorn is my favorite open top vehicle of World War 2 as well, it really is just a great looking machine.

 

    Thanks, Jim

"Veni, Vidi, Vici" Julius Caesar: I came, I saw, I conquered.
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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, January 25, 2010 1:53 PM

Thanks Stephen! You're definitely on the money in terms of the Cattleman's prices...only time I ever go out there is when we're entertaining certain clients. Too pricey and too far to drive otherwise! Wink

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Posted by NucMedTech on Monday, January 25, 2010 12:49 PM

Well, what a way to get the creative juices flowing! Have not done anything model related in about a month (citing holiday recovery), so I'm excited to see how this comes out. Hopefully will give me a swift kick of motivation too.

Herd (pun) about Cattleman's when I was going through school at Ft. Bliss, just a little out of a Spec. price range.

-StephenCowboy

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by EliteModelling on Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:54 PM

thank you for the response and thank you for giving me some information on the nashorn / hummel i guess we can call it! this will be a fun ride! thank you. Big Smile

-Adam J.

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, January 24, 2010 5:24 PM

No worries Wayne, glad to have you along for the ride! Beer

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:43 AM

Marc, I bet life will come to a complete standstill in your area for approximately 5 hours! Big Smile I think the Jets have a good chance at knocking off the Colts, all depends on how well their defense can stand up to the punishment I think. Good luck!

Tony, I might still be able to squeeze some time in since the games don't start until 1 pm MST but have to see. Thanks for the comments!

Bob, thanks! The Nashorn is one of my favorite open-top vehicles. There's just something about it hauling around that massive 8.8cm gun that is appealing I guess!

Nate, thanks for the kind words and glad to hear the WIPs are helpful to you. It's how I get inspired myself (in terms of reading others blogs not my own that would be just too wierd!).

Mike, yeah I'm really looking forward to both games today. I don't normally watch football games on Sunday during the regular season since I'm at the mercy of the regional agreements as to which games they show but once the playoffs start I pay attention.

Adam, yes the Nashorn shares the same basic hull and design as the Hummel. The Hummel underwent other modifications during its production run in terms of how the driver/radio operator compartment was redesigned that didn't translate over to the Nashorn but otherwise they were produced side-by-side from 1943 right through to the end in '45. Other differences such as ammo storage and the layout of the fighting compartment were also different depending on whether the final vehicle was a Hummel or a Nashorn. Glad to have you along for the ride! Yes 

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Posted by EliteModelling on Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:48 AM

does the Nashorn have the same hull as the Hummel? i swear it is the same but with just a differnet gun. nice build btw. thank you

-Adam J

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:46 AM

Moving along nicely...I sure many modelers like most people are planning around the games.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:26 AM

Looks great  Bill. I always love to watch your WIP's....very informative, and inspiring.Yes

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by M1Carbine on Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:16 AM

Bill, off to a running start I see.  I love the Nashorne, this kit looks like a gem as well.  Staying tuned.

 

Bob

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:49 PM

Bill I had big plans for tomorrow too and I still may get a little done before the first kick-off.Smile

She's underway and going to be a slick chick before long.Yes

See Ya Later bud                                                                                                                                 Tony Lee

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:35 PM

Yeah... big day 'round here starting at 3 pmStick out tongue

Keep up the good work on the Nashorn

Marc  

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:22 PM

I made some more progress today and since tomorrow is the AFC and NFC Championship playoff games I'm going to continue working on tracks so figured I should go ahead and post the progress from today and get it out of the way.

Continuing on with the lower hull, I completed Step 3 which is a very simple step as it just adds the lower hatch insert for the radio operator's position to the underside of the glacis plate. While I had the plate loose, I decided to go ahead and address the molded on locator marks that are included there, some of which aren't used at all but the instructions don't indicate that you should remove any. You have to look ahead to Step 21 to see what would be used and what needed to be removed. I don't like leaving locator marks in place so I removed all of them due to their size as a matter of course with a micro chisel and then carefully sanded down the surfaces. The marks on the side of the driver's armored hood were the toughest to remove as they were thick and in a tight space due to the angles of the hood and the weld seams. For those I used the back of a #11 blade to carefully scrape them down and then sanded using an angled cut end of the sanding twig I normally use for tight spaces.

Step 4 preps the fenders by calling for some holes to be opened up on both fenders and the jack block installed on the right fender. I opened the holes with a #68 finger drill but left the block off for now. On the left side the holes don't need to be opened for the mount of the Bosch light as they are already molded open. It was only after I took this pic that I realized I opened up the wrong holes in the left fender...the holes I opened up were for the twin Bosch light seen on the Hornisse but deleted on the Nashorn so I'm going to have to fill those and open up the right holes for the jack block farther back on the fender. Chalk that one up to carelessness on my part and I don't even have the excuse of watching a game on TV to fall back on this time!

Step 5 then attaches the fenders and glacis to the lower hull. I added the glacis first and the fit was mostly ok with just a little bit of putty work required around the triangular corners that are welded to the hull vs. bolted like the rest of the plate. The fenders were next and I used the angled fighting compartment panels C14/C15 to insure I had a good fit and match into their grooves so that when they are installed later on the fenders aren't drooping or causing gaps in that area.

This step also installs the rear hull plate and it had some very deep ejector marks that needed to be filled with putty. These will likely be hidden by the large stowage box that occupies the rear floor area but I didn't want to take any chances so some quick work with Squadron White and the sanding twig fixed it up right. Some additional putty on the exterior joins with the hull sides was also needed in places. The floor was installed and this step also has the infamous M14/M15 inserts that are used to align the lifting eyes properly on the interior sides of the fighting compartment. The instructions now have a blue text that says "for positioning L4 only" and the "do not glue" icon but you don't actually install L4 if following the instruction order until Step 18 so I made a note on the instructions and will do that then instead of now.

Step 6 rounds out the lower hull by adding the tow pintle mount, the exhausts, the rear tow hooks, the crew step, and the spare road wheel mounts as well as other miscellaneous details. I left off the mounts for now and will add them later on but everything else got installed at this step. The top side of the tow pintle mount had large and deep ejector marks that had to be puttied and sanded down before installation. There are some unused mount pins on the hull side that have to be removed on both sides, easily done with the #11 blade, in order for the tow hook and track pin nudge plate to install correctly.

Since there's 2 games tomorrow I should be able to get the tracks together and assembled but I guess that all depends on how good (or not) the games are!

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:34 AM

Rob, Figure Freak, Michael, nothing to worry about, this one's just barely getting off the ground. Glad to have you all along for the ride! Beer

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Posted by mg.mikael on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:17 PM

Yikes, I also missed the start of this build. But no worries I caught up quickly, and will be looking forward to the next update.Yes

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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Posted by figure freak on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:34 PM

You will love this kit, its really a nice kit and the suspension is nice because its still detailed but only one piece

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Posted by scratchmod on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:55 PM

Guess I missed the start of this build, but I've caught up now and am waiting on the next up date, can't wait. Go Bill Go

 

Rob

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, January 18, 2010 8:23 PM

detailfreak

Wbill76:glad to hear your not a cowboys fan as it saves you from a ribbin.VIKES RULE,had to do that ,Its been a long time coming.Yes

Vikes Rule! That game made my whole weekend. It didn't hurt that it came at the Cowgirls expense. Devil

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, January 18, 2010 7:32 PM

Thanks Mike! I was tempted to do more while in front of the TV but once I saw that there were ejector marks on the outside surfaces of the hull I knew that things would need to have closer inspection before assembly. That ruled out doing it in the non-bench quality lighting and of course distractions of the game! Wink

I hear you about the picture directions...it was an experiment that Dragon tried and abandoned but the Premium kits still get the old directions when they were used and are just upgraded with additional b/w diagrams were needed to use the "Premium" parts.

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, January 18, 2010 4:11 PM

Nothing like parts cleanup in front of the TV....(we will not discuss Dallas Whistling.....nor will we talk about the Jets

Off to another clean start. Picture directions can be deceptive. You have to look close and it depends at times what angle the photos are take from.  As an engineer.....always prefer the drawings Wink

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, January 18, 2010 2:40 PM

Marc,

The description sounds like Cattleman's Steakhouse...they have some truly massive Porterhouse steaks with the biggest at 24 oz if memory serves called the "Cowboy". This of course comes with all the fixin's so it's one massive meal. Whenever we would entertain visitors from Air France they always wanted to to out there because they said it was something they just couldn't get in Europe! Texas does like to do everything bigger whenever they can for sure. If you ever find yourself down this way, it's definitely a place to check out. It's a fully functional cattle ranch and the food is excellent. Wink 

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, January 18, 2010 2:04 PM

J-E-T-S  JETS JETS JETS

 

I was filppin' back and forth between the game and this show about steak houses with huge steaks. OMG it was a carnivores dream.  There one gigundo place in El Paso and I immediately though of you Bill.... and that I should go meet some of my modeling buddiesWhistling and... oh... I dunno... go have a big steakStick out tongue

 

Oh yeah,  nice work on the Hashorn tooBig Smile

Marc  

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