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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:29 PM

Like clankety-clank! That's a Patton tank! I can almost smell that diesel exhaust.

You got the red clay right.Yes

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by redleg12 on Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:19 PM

I love the splatter method....nice little toot as always. Very nice work, the little things like the "Power to Patton" is just fantastic....I love it

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:22 PM

Thanks all!

Rob--another rust bucket? Hmmm..actually, to be honest I'm actually going to be working on one next! But not a tank--I can't dream of touching your standards! I'm going to be doing a HUGE mining truck, like the ones that I saw recently down in Pennsylvania coal country just rusting away in the abandoned cola fields! It should be quite the project! Thanks for the compliments!

Nate and Boyd, and--thanks alot, guys! I do appreciate the comments!

Gino-thanks, sincerely, man! I know you wouldn't pull any punches if I didn't "get it right". Thanks again for your help and recommendations in this project, Your "tweaks list" was central to the improvement of this model! THANK YOU!

BEEEEEEEEAAAAAAMMM!!! HEY DOOG! (For those of you who don't know, this is my fiancee', Jenn!) Hi baby! Thanks for being a part of the hobby that you know I love so much! Oh and uh....I'd get dirty with you any day! Wink

And thanks Tony and Lee!

Mike, thanks as well! As I said, the help that I got on this thread was key to making it what it is--the adding of the slogan on the back there was a forum member suggestion, and a nice touch that I hadn't originally thought of. Cool beans to have so much good advice thrown in!

Big Smile

 

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Friday, November 19, 2010 2:15 AM

Karl, not much more left for me to say - I like the finished tank a lot and it is an inspiration for me, especially when it comes to making a vehicle Vietnam-dirty! I look forward to see you doing your next project. Thanks for sharing and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, November 19, 2010 6:30 AM

If I were to "ditto" all the things other said that I agree with, I would be late for my job.  So I iwll say that this is may be your finest hour.  Build, figs, mud... nice

Marc  

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  • From: South Carolina
Posted by jetmodeler on Friday, November 19, 2010 6:35 AM

Karl your Patton looks awesome. I like the soda cans.

I'm gonna have to try that mud technique. Looks like it works pretty good.

Bow DownBow DownBow Down

 

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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, November 19, 2010 8:51 AM

Wow Doog!! I am stunned by that spectacular model! You've really brought that to life and I'm gonna save the pics so I can try to utilize some of your experience here to make my Patton in 1/72 scale. I'm out of words to describe how stunningly awesome this tank is!

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, November 19, 2010 12:49 PM

You are DAMN SO GOOD!!! Bow DownBow DownBow Down  I smell FSM cover... especially that they haven't done a tank during Vietnam Era for a long time I think.  Thanks for taking your time to show us the WIP.

Andy

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Posted by BigDaddyBluesman on Friday, November 19, 2010 12:59 PM

Yeah the kid did it well....amazing for someone who never served on one let alone was never in.Bow Down

A real triumph of the creative mind, taking a piece of plastic and making it into a work of art in true scale and realism. I think even the great masters would be proud and I'm talking about Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo. Seriously, had they been in Vietnam.....Big Smile

I think this should be left with a sticky or something so people can follow it in the future easily. This is a classic and for me a schematic for all my builds now.

There maybe other ways to achieve the same results but it doesn't mater how, it matters that it was done and done so well.

Bravo......Toast

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  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Friday, November 19, 2010 5:13 PM

Looks great doog, tank and figs! Looks like its had its fair share of use to be sure!

Eric

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, November 19, 2010 11:44 PM

An a'nudder one bites the dust........

http://th717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys/th_approvedsmile.gif

What's next?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Decorated%20images/th_T1-4-copy.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by ogrejohn on Saturday, November 20, 2010 7:56 AM

Dang, that sure is some fine looking work Karl! Well done indeed!

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:16 AM

Fantastic lesson.The tank and weathering look great,aslo the flesh tones on the figures look so realistic.I can't recall seeing a completed figue of a black man,he came out really well.Thanks again for another great build.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:40 AM

Great WIP thread and finish Karl...like I wrote earlier, its great to see you take some of these "older" kits and bring them up to this level with a little elbow grease and some TLC...

I noticed you use some of the "cheap" acrylics that can be found in places like Hobby Lobby etc. for some of you detail/weathering work...I use those as well, especially for ground color, weathering suspensions, buildings and in distressing wood, as they react well with water---and they are under $2 a pop!!!

5 star work here...

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  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:36 PM

Hey Karl,

Wow man, what a superb build! All round she is pure beauty!!!

I'm taking a LOT of notes and adding particular pages into a special 'modelling favourites' area that I've made up on my computer. Basically, whenever I see something that I think is just freakin' awesome or something simple that will help my building I save the page into 'modelling favourites' page. A lot of bits that you've done on this build have ended up in there; infact a good portion of the stuff in there is either work by yourself, Tony Pvt Mutt, Bill Plunk and Andy (Deafpanzer).

The Vietnam conflict was the first main conflict that got me REALLY interested in 20th Century warfare so I must start doing a few 'Nam era builds-starting with this one. I'd also like to do an 'Apocalypse Now' based PBR with the full crew too. The addition of Coke Cans and modern day stuff like that on a build really appeals to me!

Again, a great job all round and as always, faultless & flawless!  Yes

What's on the agenda next Karl - have you got a special 'Christmas build' lined up?

ATVB

Ben

On the Bench - Dragon Pz. IV Ausf. G (L.A.H.) Yes

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, November 20, 2010 1:50 PM

Once again, thanks a lot guys, seriously. I honestly appreciate all the kind comments! Embarrassed

deafpanzer

You are DAMN SO GOOD!!! Bow DownBow DownBow Down  I smell FSM cover... especially that they haven't done a tank during Vietnam Era for a long time I think.  Thanks for taking your time to show us the WIP.

ha ha--AARON, MATT--WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?!?!  Stick out tongue Thanks, Andy--you're too kind! Big Smile

BigDaddyBluesman--you flatter me, honestly! Embarrassed I'm most happy that I seem to have captured something that gets high marks from guys like you who have actually served and been there in that red mud; man, that humbles me profoundly. I was only five years old in 1970, but I remember the time, and the soldiers who never got their due. In some small way, This is my tribute.

I went to "The Wall" in D.C. when I was there in the 1980's, I remember walking aloNG the wall as it started at my feet, and then it was up to my knees. my chest...pretty soon it was at eye level and then over my head...and the names--all 58,175 of them --just kept coming....wow, man. All those boys--most no older than myself at the time, gone, wiped out--I'm not ashamed to say that I cried, openly. I didn't even know a one of them, but it broke me down.  Anyway, hearing that I brought something special to this model really puts a smile on my face! Smile

Thanks, Eric, Steve, Pawel and Marc! You too, John and Anthony. Anthony, I'm "well chuffed" (as they say across the pond!) to have gotten the flesh tones on the African American guy!

Thank, Manny! I do appreciate your approval! Yeah, those "cheap" acrylics are the bomb for anything that doesn't need real "finishing finesse". They're good cover-alls, and they come in a HUGE palette of colors!

Ben, thank too!

WHAT'S NEXT?!!? Well, deer season is next, lol. Hunting down in Pennsylvania with my Dad. SO I'll be a little slow on the workbench again for a bit. But I have at least one more "Armor" surprise to show soon, and then I'll be working on something totally different--a 1/24 scale International Payhauler mining dump truck. I'm going to build it as a derelict, abandoned old coal hauler like the ones that I've seen recently in the old coal fields of Pennsylvania. THAT will be a cool build, I assure you--and a real finishing challenge. LOTS of textures, degradation, scratches and old rust that will draw heavily on my armor weathering skills.

Thanks again, all!

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, November 20, 2010 1:53 PM

I've come to this one a bit late Karl but have been following along since the start. Very nice work all around in terms of bringin this one to life. Work on the figs and the weathering conveys what you were after as does all the little details that you've added to this one. Definitely deserves a proud spot on your shelf! Yes Beer Good luck with the deer this season!

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:01 PM

Thanks, Bill! I appreciate you leaving a comment. You've been busy lately, no?

I'll try to shoot straight out there! I should be having some venison after the turkey! Smile Burger

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  • From: Buffalo, NY
Posted by macattack80 on Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:02 PM

Fantastic build Mr. Logan!  Makes the armor bug bite a bit harder....

Kevin

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:06 PM

macattack80

Fantastic build Mr. Logan!  Makes the armor bug bite a bit harder....

Thanks, Kevin!!! Big Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:06 PM

Yes, been busy quite a bit at work with some things that have changed there recently and that's been keeping me away from the bench but still manage to get some time in on the forums and stay as current as possible. Wink

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:12 PM

wbill76

Yes, been busy quite a bit at work with some things that have changed there recently and that's been keeping me away from the bench but still manage to get some time in on the forums and stay as current as possible. Wink

Well, don't I know that feeling from this year past, Bill!

Well, I hope it moderates soon for you. Your loss around here has not gone unnoticed, and I'm confident that I'm speaking for everyone when I say that we can't wait to see your next build at the top of the page! Toast

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Posted by macattack80 on Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:16 PM

the doog

 macattack80:

Fantastic build Mr. Logan!  Makes the armor bug bite a bit harder....

 

Thanks, Kevin!!! Big Smile

No problem sir.  I am sure you know that Revell reissued their M48A2 Patton.  Would you recommed it to a beginner armor builder?

Kevin

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Posted by BigDaddyBluesman on Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:37 PM

I wasn't in Nam, came in later but we used all the stuff except the M48. I know one track definitely had patched up bullet holes and was a Vietnam rebuild(M113A1).

I do have a message to those who do the research, don't get too caught up in it. There were things going one that nobody knew about. The services would send stuff over there that nobody documented that well and saw action or was kept in the rear for some reason. A lot of stuff ended up on the black market as it is happening now in the Stan. Many soldiers traded with others from other units and countries and may have ended up with a FN FAL from the Aussies. You had guys also bring Daddy's WWII Thompson SMG and things like that. Remember the show MASH, well that's what guys did like Radar did. I even found some old magazines for my M-3 grease gun, yes I carried one in HQ Troop, a WWII era M-3A1. They were not issued to me, I scrounged them.

So you can take some poetic license with your models up to a certain point. Try to get a picture of it and don't trust too much in eye witness accounts, many swear there were M-60s in Nam and I really doubt that, but it is possible toward the end they sent a few for testing and they failed. They did use the M728 and Bridge versions so it's possible some parts were used from them on an M48 and some thought they were M60s. I think the M-88 also used the M-60 chassis. The Marines had the M55 155mm SPH there and they used the M-48 chassis(I think) so I'm there were parts from that too that were used. Speaking of the M55, nobody makes one in 1/35, only an older one in 1/32. So that's something some day I might scratch build using an m48 kit bash.

It was War and you used whatever you could scrounge up to get the vehicles and weapons out there to the troops. There were shortages then as there is in any war, just ask someone serving now. I'm sure some crafty Marines raided Army depots which had newer and more gear. It was also possible that the Army sent the wrong stuff to Nam, stuff that was supposed to go to Germany and ended up in Nam, so they used it. It could have been M-60A1/A2/A3????? parts and they slapped them on the M-48. They even had shortages of the A3 and brought into service the older A1 model. if something broke you used what you could find and fought on. It's called field expedience one of the mottos of the CAV.

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:03 PM

Awesome looking work.  Have really enjoyed your WIP and I hope to see a new build very soon.  Keep the good work comingBig Smile

Rob

Rob

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Posted by Beam17 on Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:37 PM

Hinksy

Hey Karl,

Wow man, what a superb build! All round she is pure beauty!!!

I'm taking a LOT of notes and adding particular pages into a special 'modelling favourites' area that I've made up on my computer. Basically, whenever I see something that I think is just freakin' awesome or something simple that will help my building I save the page into 'modelling favourites' page. A lot of bits that you've done on this build have ended up in there; infact a good portion of the stuff in there is either work by yourself, Tony Pvt Mutt, Bill Plunk and Andy (Deafpanzer).

The Vietnam conflict was the first main conflict that got me REALLY interested in 20th Century warfare so I must start doing a few 'Nam era builds-starting with this one. I'd also like to do an 'Apocalypse Now' based PBR with the full crew too. The addition of Coke Cans and modern day stuff like that on a build really appeals to me!

Again, a great job all round and as always, faultless & flawless!  Yes

What's on the agenda next Karl - have you got a special 'Christmas build' lined up?

ATVB

Ben

 

Yeah Karl, do you have a special "Christmas build" lined up? Do you? Do you??? Big Smile

Genes load the gun, but the environment pulls the trigger.

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  • From: Boston MA
Posted by vespa boy on Sunday, November 21, 2010 10:41 AM

Nice work Karl. That is great build you have there. I really like the dirt spatter technique. The in progress shots are always so helpful in breaking done how you achieve the final effect and are super-helpful. Thanks for sharing this in detail from start to finish.

http://public.fotki.com/nkhandekar

This ain't no Mudd Club, or C.B.G.B.,
I ain't got time for that now

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, November 21, 2010 10:50 AM

macattack80

 

 the doog:

 

 

 macattack80:

Fantastic build Mr. Logan!  Makes the armor bug bite a bit harder....

 

Thanks, Kevin!!! Big Smile

 

 

 

No problem sir.  I am sure you know that Revell reissued their M48A2 Patton.  Would you recommed it to a beginner armor builder?

If I am correct, I believe that that was also boxed by Monogram in 1/32 scale? Is that the same tank? If so, that's the first armor model I ever built, when I was like, eight. A great kit. In any case, it couldn't be a bad kit for a beginner. I would go for it!

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:35 AM

BigDaddy, I agree 100% with you about not getting so hung up on details and "correct" paint colors and whatnot that it ruins your enjoyment of the hobby. That's a sure way to ruin a good thing!

Rob, thanks for watching in this WIP, Glad to have you along for the ride! Hope you didn't get muddy! Smile

Beam17

Yeah Karl, do you have a special "Christmas build" lined up? Do you? Do you??? Big Smile

Well, now, Beamer, you're just going to have to wait until Christmas to find out! Wink

NARAYAN--THANK YOU for the manuals, which gave me some valuable insight and info! I'm mailing those out to you on Monday! I appreciate you giving me access to them, and am indebted to you!

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:52 AM

the doog

 macattack80:

 

 the doog:

 

 

 macattack80:

Fantastic build Mr. Logan!  Makes the armor bug bite a bit harder....

 

Thanks, Kevin!!! Big Smile

 

 

 

No problem sir.  I am sure you know that Revell reissued their M48A2 Patton.  Would you recommed it to a beginner armor builder?

 

If I am correct, I believe that that was also boxed by Monogram in 1/32 scale? Is that the same tank? If so, that's the first armor model I ever built, when I was like, eight. A great kit. In any case, it couldn't be a bad kit for a beginner. I would go for it!

Thanks for the reply Doog.  It is a neat looking piece of armor.  I will add it to the wish list.

Kevin

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