Sdk.fz 234/4 WIP . No more post here . Link to completed build on p.8

Pulled off the masking tape tonight and touched up the interior and suspension .

I wondered if it might be an "artistic license" choice. Definitely provides some contrast which is your stated intent and looks cool! With that in mind, what I'm about to say is only for those who come along later and isn't meant to detract from your build.  

While it's true that Pak 40s were produced in the panzer gray period of time, the production period for the 234/4 ran from Dec '44 to April '45 and modified Pak 40 carriages/mounts (including cut-down lower splinter shields) were necessary to fit the confines of the vehicle, so they couldn't just grab any old Pak 40 and plop it in the hull. The reason for the primer red interior was due to the standing factory practice at the time the vehicles were produced. Even with the urgent need, only about 90 of these were produced during the short 4 months or so of production.

Ok Bill .Thanks for the "facts" . Like i said before this paint scheme is "my idea " . Heck if you look close enough the entire model has flaws and loosely represents a "actual" vehicle .

For any further viewers of my build here , I'm not building this model to be an exact replica of a museum vehicle or to represent a vehicle from a photo taken durring WW II .  This build will be based on "my idea" and while the "facts" are appreciated for reference i will continue to build this model with "my idea" of a vehicle that could possibly have existed . 

Shellback

Ok Bill .Thanks for the "facts" . Like i said before this paint scheme is "my idea " . Heck if you look close enough the entire model has flaws and loosely represents a "actual" vehicle .

For any further viewers of my build here , I'm not building this model to be an exact replica of a museum vehicle or to represent a vehicle from a photo taken durring WW II .  This build will be based on "my idea" and while the "facts" are appreciated for reference i will continue to build this model with "my idea" of a vehicle that could possibly have existed . 

 

Uh oh!  You risk losing your SERIOUS MODELER card.  Every build of your's that I've seen looks close to real to me.  Don't change a thing, every WIP is a lesson for me.

Cheers!

MAJ Mike

Shellback:

Ok Bill .Thanks for the "facts" . Like i said before this paint scheme is "my idea " . Heck if you look close enough the entire model has flaws and loosely represents a "actual" vehicle .

For any further viewers of my build here , I'm not building this model to be an exact replica of a museum vehicle or to represent a vehicle from a photo taken durring WW II .  This build will be based on "my idea" and while the "facts" are appreciated for reference i will continue to build this model with "my idea" of a vehicle that could possibly have existed . 

 

 

Uh oh!  You risk losing your SERIOUS MODELER card.  Every build of your's that I've seen looks close to real to me.  Don't change a thing, every WIP is a lesson for me.

Cheers!

Hmmmmm ......let think about that for a while ..............1 sec later ................cant lose what i never had Maj .!!!!!!!

Thought i'd post this method of painting tires and wheels . i've used it on painting the rubber of road wheels of tanks as well , just use something of a smaller diameter , tubing , plastic caps , washers etc . This method works well and is fast .

The wheel is sprayed in the appropriate color .

I used this plastic cap to mask the wheel . Seems there is always something aroud that is the correct diameter .

I held it down with one finger and sprayed around it with the tire color . I mixed Panzer gray with flat black .

The result a few minutes later.

Makes doing 9 of these a cinch . Took about 30 min .

The following is meant as humor and is NOTa factual event .

One of Hitlers wild night mares was to mount the turret from a Tiger 1 with its 88 mm cannon on the chasis of a 234 . He felt the extra armor of the turret would make a good match with the speed of a wheeled chasis .This vehicle never made it to a paper drawing but Hitler did say something about his bad dream to Goering , who  choked on his mouthful of viennese cutlet .

Here's the concept .

das wienerschnitzel (Viennese cutlet )

Goerings second portion

                                        The concept needs work and the turret ring is a bit small,oh and I'd like to try some of that.

                                                               Greg"Detailfreak"Rowley

Very nice build. 

What mix of tan and dunkelgerb did you use on that marvelous 1:1 scale model of the weinerschnitzel?  What air brush settings (psi, etc) for the garnish on the side?  It looks as real as that served at the Ft. Bliss Luftwaffe restaraunt! 

well well well.. isn't this a surprise Carl,or Sea or Shell or whatever you are calling yourself these days. Pushing the boundrys of this fine forum and responsible modelers over the limit of good taste again.

This model is an abomination to fine German design. You have mutated it past the point of recognition and frankly sir, I just cannot sit idley by and do nothing . Effective immediately I am canceling my subscription to Home and Garden. I hope you are happy with yourself.

good bye,

Spiro Agnew

LOL guys !!!!! And thats exactly what i wanted to see , something funny ! Too much serious stuff going on all of the time as it is .

Greg ..........Its looks good dont it ! The schnitzel .....................

 Diasater M........hope your got over the shock and are ok now .

Maj. ,Is it good with a beer ? Never had it like in the picture myself . Recipe said its made with chicken .

Tread , or is it Bill , Spiro  ?...........sorry you got all upset and flipped out man ! I know its a terrible thing i am doing here ,,,,,,,just terrible ! And yes , goodbye again .But like uncle Bobby used to say ...................

Ok, time to get back to the model . not much left .

What ? You thought something was down here ?

Shellback

Maj. ,Is it good with a beer ? Never had it like in the picture myself . Recipe said its made with chicken .

They made it with veal and I always ordered Club Weiss to go with it.  Ahhh!  Good times, good times.

Sounds like an interesting beer from i just read about it

I was the DIVARTY S4 and we made visits to a direct support 155mm howitzer battalion in El Paso.  The Luftwaffe had their anti-aircraft missle school at Ft. Bliss and the Bundeswehr maintained a battalion of Leopard II's there as well.  The permanent party cadre's family support group ran a German restaraunt to help finance activities for the families.

Rumor had it that once a month, a Luftwaffe C-130 flew in evry month filled with German beer and all the makings for the terrific menu at the restaraunt.  Best German food I've ever had anywhere.

MAJ Mike

I was the DIVARTY S4 and we made visits to a direct support 155mm howitzer battalion in El Paso.  The Luftwaffe had their anti-aircraft missle school at Ft. Bliss and the Bundeswehr maintained a battalion of Leopard II's there as well.  The permanent party cadre's family support group ran a German restaraunt to help finance activities for the families.

Rumor had it that once a month, a Luftwaffe C-130 flew in evry month filled with German beer and all the makings for the terrific menu at the restaraunt.  Best German food I've ever had anywhere.

Major , ok , now i get it . Thanks for filling me in on the details . When you previousely mentioned the luftwaff restaurant at Fort Bliss  i didnt know the connection . Interesting what i have learned from this thread so far . Your experience with modern artillery is interesting ...... I wont go into asking about that here , in these times .........you know .

I wouldnt doubt the C-130 bringing in the Weissbier , and whatever else . From what i researched it looked like that  beer from Germany is seldom found here stateside .

Thanks again !

Sorry.  Apologize for going so off topic.  It was just one of those incidents that was both unusal and very pleasent.  Checking in at the VOQ and being in-processed by a Luftwaffe Duty NCO was also a little bit weird.

No more lectures, promise.

MAJ Mike

Sorry.  Apologize for going so off topic.  It was just one of those incidents that was both unusal and very pleasent.  Checking in at the VOQ and being in-processed by a Luftwaffe Duty NCO was also a little bit weird.

No more lectures, promise.

Maj . i edited my response in this post. It was too wordy perhaps .

 By all means i am interested in anything you want to share about your experiences here . There was no problem about going off topic Sir ! Sorry i got everything confused .

My own appologees for being unclear in my statements .

Ft. Bliss has undergone a lot of changes lately for sure but I believe the restaurant is still in business here in El Paso. They still hold the annual Oktoberfest activities every year as well.

Your build is coming along nicely Carl, neat trick on the tires.

Hey Bill thanks !!!

Next time i go off with my imagination on something German WW II  i'll keep your historical wisdom in mind !

Shellback

The following is meant as humor and is NOTa factual event .

One of Hitlers wild night mares was to mount the turret from a Tiger 1 with its 88 mm cannon on the chasis of a 234 . He felt the extra armor of the turret would make a good match with the speed of a wheeled chasis .This vehicle never made it to a paper drawing but Hitler did say something about his bad dream to Goering , who  choked on his mouthful of viennese cutlet .

Here's the concept .

das wienerschnitzel (Viennese cutlet )

Goerings second portion

 

Carl, I just spewed my beer. Thanks. I needed that. LOL

tigerman

Shellback:

The following is meant as humor and is NOTa factual event .

One of Hitlers wild night mares was to mount the turret from a Tiger 1 with its 88 mm cannon on the chasis of a 234 . He felt the extra armor of the turret would make a good match with the speed of a wheeled chasis .This vehicle never made it to a paper drawing but Hitler did say something about his bad dream to Goering , who  choked on his mouthful of viennese cutlet .

Here's the concept .

das wienerschnitzel (Viennese cutlet )

Goerings second portion

 

 

Carl, I just spewed my beer. Thanks. I needed that. LOL

glad it gave you laugh Eric !!!!!

Ok , i finished these tonight . From my research it looks like the butt stock of the MG 42 is either wood , painted wood or bakelite . I chose bakelite .

I believe the item in the center of the three is a bolt / wire cutter and the lower handles is bakelite .

Very nice work on the tools. Love the worn look on the shovel

Rounds Complete!!

Mike , thanks for stopping in and leaving a couple of rounds! 

The vehicle equipment looks great.

Good to read you like it mike !

You're correct about the wire-cutters being bake-lite. Many modelers paint them wood, which is incorrect. Very good question about the MG-42 stock, but I believe you're correct again. I can't recall seeing it as a wood color.

Hey, this thread is great. Not only do we get a great WIP, but we get some humor, some history, and a few personal anecdotes to wash it all down. Ahhhhhh, could it get any better?

Hey Carl, I really like the effect you got on your tools. What are you painting/highlighting them with?

Eric , i went to web site that carry's parts for MG 42 and judging from the pictures it looked like the butt stock could any of the three ......but thats just from looking at pictures . i learned that the handles were bakelite a long time ago after painting them wood .........................Thanks .