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DML Brummbar Mid COMPLETE 07-30-12

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  • From: Schroon Lake, NY
Posted by SMJmodeler on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:46 AM

Bill:  It seems like you're having one incident after another every time you plan to work on this one!!! Stick out tongue ...weird.  

FYI: Your explanation of the dot filter is great as always, but the effect is almost undetectable in the photos.  Not sure how to get this to show better...a close-up maybe?...slighty different lighting?...Confused

What I see looks great...love the zim'!

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Monday, July 16, 2012 7:46 PM

Mike

That's a great photo, someone ticked that kitty off for sure! ROFLMAO!

Bish,

Thanks and glad you like the zim results. The dark side is calling to you, it's futile to resist! :)

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, July 16, 2012 6:07 PM

Mike LOL !

Dang hot engine cats anyway !

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 16, 2012 4:17 PM

Glad to hear the cats ok.

Nice work, as always from you. And i will second that on the Zimm weathering. I really need to get back to some armour.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, July 16, 2012 1:29 PM

Revenge

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Monday, July 16, 2012 10:07 AM

Mike,

thanks...the cat has no choice about going into the garage, but maybe he'll stay away from the engine from now on! I think the biggest lesson learned wasy by my wife...Sharon's the one responsible for putting him out in the mornings and she kept saying "we almost killed him!" all weekend so I think she's been slightly traumatized by it.

Carl,

me neither! This particular cat has lived a long time for an outside cat, he's over 10 years old and still going strong but I wonder how many such scrapes he can avoid before his number comes up. Wink Glad youl ike the pattern and the effects so far!

BeerClay,

thanks for the comments as well. Nothing wrong with working on Shermans or Germans! So long as you enjoy what you're doing that's what counts. Smile
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Posted by vonryan on Monday, July 16, 2012 8:21 AM

OUCH CAT!!  i'm with Mike. no more GARAGES . as always Bill gerat work. i want to get started back to German armor but i've got to get these Sherman's done. or i should say ALL my U.S. armor done.

Clay

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:44 PM

Poor kitty !  I dont know how they survive such experiences ........................

I like the weathering Bill .That camo pattern is looking better also .Yes

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:21 PM

Bill - Looking good.... As for the cat....glad to hear it was OK. I am sure the cat will never go into the garage ever again..... 8 lives left

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:25 PM

Didn't quite get as much done as I'd hoped...my wife forgot to put our outside cat who spends the night in the garage out on Friday and he must have fallen asleep in the engine. I went out in the afternoon to run an errand and started up the car and the engine belt must've caught him as he tried to get out...he lost quite a bit of fur (has a naked strip down one full side of his body!) but no serious injury and the fur caused the belt to come off...so I spent Saturday getting the car repaired instead of at the bench. Friday the 13th and a cat combined in a bizarre way!

Today had no such incidents and some progress can be reported. I started in on the weathering with the application of a dot filter using MM enamel Flat White, Raw Sienna, and Panzer Dunkelgelb. Since this finish has large zimmed surfaces, the dot filter approach has to be done a bit differently. Instead of downward strokes with a square tip brush, I applied the strokes in the direction of the zim pattern.

This takes more time and patience to get the desired result, so lots of time wearing the breather mask and working with clean thinner is required. The process blends the previous paint work together and also creates some shadows/depth to the zim and dirt/grime accumulations here and there in the pattern.

This process was repeated working in small sections at a time across the entire vehicle except for the lower hull. That area doesn't need dot filters since it will be weathered with pigments in a future step. 

Next up will be a pin wash to bring out some of the details before sealing it up and getting ready for the pigment process.

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:19 PM

Just make sure we all get a nice glass of Ovaltine and that will solve everything! Wink

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:04 PM

Bill , i got Dr. Frankenstein on the case to find the cause .................Stick out tongue

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:51 PM

Hard to say for sure Steve...there was plenty of time for curing/drying in all the previous stages. The paint work sat for a full week before getting the Future treatment and the Future also sat for a full week before I applied the wash. I suspect the wash is the culprit as none of the cracking appeared before that stage and and the wash sat overnight with the cracks noticeable the following day. The temp in the house stays fairly constant at 77 degrees (the joys of refrigerated air conditioning!) but the humidity difference may have played a role...whatever the combination was, it all came together to produce it! Wink

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:42 PM

Nice save Bill.  I had a similar problem on a T34 way back when and I think it was the result of several mediums applied over each other without allowing proper drying time. The disproportionate shrinkage caused some serious gaps.   Any chance your lovelyEmbarrassed Texas heat & humidity had the same effect?

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, July 9, 2012 12:14 PM

Carl,

Sounds as good as any other explanation at this point, normally DML styrene doesn't have any reaction to exposure to thinner in my experience but I suppose the circumstances were different this time around. Getting the gun installed put a lot of stress on the barrel sleeve not once but twice as the first time failed and required sanding and whatnot for the 2nd attempt...which was also a very tight fit. It could have been much worse if the cracks had gone all the way into the ball portion, that would've presented a much greater repair challenge!

Mike,

We'll blame it on sloppy techs at the assembly plant! Wink Thanks as always for stopping by.

Clay,

I replaced the kit Magic tracks with Model Kasten workable tracks. I make my own washes, yes, but use MM enamel paints as the start point. I'm not nearly good enough at chemistry to formulate my own paints! Stick out tongue Thanks for the comments!

Mark,

I've had some other things turn brittle when exposed to thinner but never something of this magnitude in 10 years of working with enamels and thinner for all my projects. First time for everything though I guess!

Eric,

Me too! I sacrificed some spare sprue in the back yard in thanksgiving for the narrowly averted disaster! Wink

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Monday, July 9, 2012 12:47 AM

That's crazy Bill, but glad to see that you've overcome it.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Reserve on Monday, July 9, 2012 12:00 AM

Nice recovery there. For reasons similar to the trouble you are having I stopped using enamel thinner for washes, altho I had a bit more of an issue as the kit was pretty well trashed past recovery. Nowadays I've been using mineral spirits, seems to be much milder than thinner and works just as well. Not, mind, the green type mineral spirits that look like blue milk, it has to be the clear smelly stuff.

 

A fine looking job here as usual, guess Texas rules again.

 

Regards,

Mark

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Posted by vonryan on Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:46 PM

hey Bill as always awesome work!!! now are those Dragons Magic tracks??? and you make your own umber??? CRAP why do i work on models again???

Clay

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, July 8, 2012 7:56 PM

Oh my....it would appear you were firing more than a full charge....glad the armorer caught it before it became a problem....looks like he is well on the way to the fix.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, July 8, 2012 6:26 PM

Bill glad you saved it ! That can be frightening ! I had an issue like that on a Hasegawa aircraft . I had to stress the rear fuselage where the opening is for the jet exhaust nozzle . One half was rounder than the other so i forced it into the correct shape with finger pressure . It looked fine until i did a wash inside the fuselage opening . I think i used enamel thinner . All around the opening these fine hairline cracks appeared and the plastic became brittle . I had a heck of a time repairing the damage . In my case it was the  effect that the enamel thinner has on plastic .Seems to make it brittle . The effect does not appear to be the same on all kits . Maybe its a difference in the plastic used ?

Anyway i'm liking your results .Toast

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 8, 2012 5:05 PM

Thanks bill, i am watching closely. Odd about those cracks showing up now.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, July 8, 2012 4:55 PM

Bish,

No removal of the Raw Umber wash has happened yet except on the barrel where I needed to do the repairs. The applied wash is a light one (heavier on the hull undersides and suspension) to provide some color tone to work in with the dot filters to come. After that, a heavier pin wash of Burnt Umber will be used to bring out some of the details.

Ernest,

Sorry about the links vs. pics...the forums behave differently now with copy/paste text (I compose the updates on my own site first and copy over here for the updates) and I had to go in and edit the links so they would display the pics. You got to see the links while Bish saw the correction with the photos showing properly. Like you, I've never heard or encountered that kind of cracking before...only thing I can think of is that they are stress cracks that were revealed by the wash application and some of the thinner got into that area where the barrel sticks out and that was enough to get them to "let go" and be revealed. Thanks as always for the comments! Beer

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 8, 2012 4:47 PM

Ernest, do you mean the photos in his posts, because i can see the pics not the links.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, July 8, 2012 4:44 PM

Nice recovery from the cracks in the barrel Bill!  Funny how they just appeared, I never heard of that happening before.  BTW, did you change how you want your photos to show up?  Instead of photos there are just links to your photos on your website...??  Still works, I was just wondering.

Anyway, great blog as always!  Thanks for the update!

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 8, 2012 4:43 PM

Nice repair job on the barrel. Have you removed the excess wash or is it just a very light one to get into the Zimm.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, July 8, 2012 4:33 PM

The latest round of effort focused on the tracks and beginning the weathering process for the exterior. First step with the tracks involved airbrushing a base coat of MM enamel Burnt Umber and letting that thoroughly set up and cure before proceeding with the next steps. This is something I had done last week, so they had a full week to sit before work began with them.

Next step involved dry-brushing MM enamel Steel with a 00 round sable brush. This adds a metallic look to the links and replicates the contact wear from the idlers, return rollers, and sprocket teeth.

 

Track on the left has been fully dry-brushed, track on the right is in the base coat only to show the contrast.

Next step involves applying a wash of enamel Raw Umber using the same 00 brush. The wash isn't applied too heavily but is used to blend in the Steel from the previous step and provide a more subtle look/feel to the track.

Track on left after wash, track on right pending wash application to show the contrast.

This gets the tracks ready for pigment weathering in later steps, I also dry-brushed Steel on the track faces but didn't apply the Raw Umber wash there as there's no real point to that and it runs the risk of getting thinner into the pins, which can make the runs brittle potentially.

I turned to the exterior and started the weathering process with the application of an enamel Raw Umber wash. This is only a foundation for the later dot filtering steps and will get blended in with that process.

In the course of applying the wash I noticed something strange going on around the barrel sleeve. At first I thought a small hair had gotten left behind by one of the brushes but closer examination revealed it was a series of hairline cracks.

I hadn't dropped the vehicle and it hadn't taken any damage, so I can only assume this is a legacy from the fit issues I had earlier with the ball mantlet. A quick check on the other side revealed similar cracks appearing there also. These didn't show up during the assembly process or during painting, but we have had a lot of rain lately and perhaps the increased humidity caused it to flex and reveal the cracks.

I had to give this some thought as to how best to repair and settled on liquid glue to fill the cracks and restore some integrity to the sleeve. I used finger pressure to help seal the cracks but that alone wasn't enough, so some added putty work was necessary. I used small amounts of Squadron White putty rolled over the cracks with a round toothpick and carefully sanded down with a sanding twig. The liquid glue application revealed the extent of the damage was greater than I had originally thought.

Some careful work with a detail brush and some light dry-brushing restored the finish.

I'm going to let that sit and fully cure and then will have to re-seal the barrel sleeve with Future before the weathering can proceed. Didn't get as far as I wanted to as a result of the repairs but glad they surfaced now instead of later on when it would've been much harder to fix!

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:44 AM

Thanks Ernest! Road wheels on Pz IVs are always a fun task...a necessary evil! The kit's finishing guide and decal set is pretty limited, you get the choice of 3 vehicles all from the same unit with the same pattern. Big Smile Since I had a reference photo of vehicle #1 without the schurzen on, I went that route. Glad you like it!

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, July 7, 2012 8:09 PM

Oh yeah, its coming along great Bill!!  The Atak zim looks fabulous, and so does the camo.  I don't envy you painting all those roadwheels, PLUS the spares, though!!  Dead  BTW, I noticed the camo matches the kit box cover art!!  

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 6, 2012 4:20 PM

Ye, i am looking forward to seeing how you weather it. I have only done one Zimmed vehicle since i started doing washes, but that was a very light weathering. So hopeing to pick up some more tips.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, July 6, 2012 4:14 PM

Bish

, thanks as always for the comments!

marc

, weathering a zim finish always presents a different set of challenges but that's half the fun! Looking forward to it myself as they never quite come out exactly the same from one build to the next. Wink

satch

, happy to help in any way I can! No idea what I will tackle next, haven't given it much thought but I suppose I should start going about selecting the next victim at some point. Will have to see what "speaks" to me out of the stash I guess.
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