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DML Brummbar Mid COMPLETE 07-30-12

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:46 AM

Hey Bill:  No commentary, I justed wanted to be sure to get the updates so I can follow along!Yes

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 7:03 AM

Looking great as usual Bill. Sure looks much easier han using Squadron putty and a modified zimm tool.

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, May 7, 2012 11:36 PM

Great choice for your next build Bill!  I've had a soft spot for this vehicle ever since I saw the old Monogram 1/32(?) with Sheperd Paine's color dio insert.  Looking forward to your WIP and eager to see how it turns out! 

Ernest

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, May 7, 2012 6:57 PM

Ben, no worries. Give the overhaul a whirl...you never know what you might produce! Wink

DM, that had me laughing for a while...glad to have you peering in from the shadows! Wink

Satch, my pleasure. I hope it's helpful for you when you get to yours.

BeerTony, aw shucks man...but hey, we both like SPGs so it's all good. Smile

 

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Monday, May 7, 2012 5:46 PM

That's alright Ben after all Wild Bill is my bro.Wink

Tony lee

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Posted by satch_ip on Monday, May 7, 2012 4:09 PM

Thanks for building this Bill.  I bought the Zimmed version for around 1/2 price from Dragon not too long ago.  I'll be bookmarking this blog.

 

Satch

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, May 7, 2012 3:23 PM

http://www.digobrands.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ProductiveParanoia_525x3302.jpgWATCHIN'.........

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Posted by Hinksy on Monday, May 7, 2012 1:23 PM

wbill76
 , who's this Tony guy you keep referring to and his herd of Brummbars? Propeller Just teasing of course! This is the first Brummbar I've ever tackled and Tony did a nice job on his...I believe it was the pre-zimmed kit though that he worked on but am not 100% certain.

BeerBen

Aaah dammit!!! Bang Head and also a Embarrassed x 10!

I'm sooo sorry Bill, I don't know what I was thinking - I saw one of Tony's posts and just had it in my head that this was his thread! Well, it was a very late night for me and numerous pints of British Ales were ingested which may excuse my stupidness today!

I do recall Tony building the pre-Zimmed Brummbar like my one (I'm sure it was the same one but may be wrong), he may have built both? Tony?

Like I said I built the Zimmed Brummbar which was my first ever Dragon kit and perhaps not the best choice of build for a TOTAL newbie as it wasn't easy but I still have her in my cabinet with them DS tracks that are super tight like a Sherman-no sag. I'm so tempted to giver her an overhaul as now I have some limited skills under my belt I feel I could do this justice?

No doubt you'll totally kick butt with this build - it's right up your street.

Sorry for the mix-up! Keep the updates coming.

Cheers Andy, sorry, Bill Wink

Ben Toast

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, May 7, 2012 10:02 AM

Rob, I try not to keep the bench idle if I can help it...since I only work one project at a time. I've become a fan of Atak zim, good stuff, the only drawback is that they don't provide any kind of guide as to where the panels go so you have to be aware of that and figure things out on your own. Most of the time that's not too big of an issue and they do try to lay out the panels on the sheet so that similar areas are grouped together at least.

tread, :D Probably not! The last two projects both took quite a while to complete so I'm looking forward to this one as a relatively simple effort. Thanks for the comments and glad to have you along!

Andy, so sorry to hear this one won't influence your kit buying! Sad However there's still hope for your AM stash to start growing by the sound of it!

Erik, Anthony, glad to have you along as well!

BeerBen, who's this Tony guy you keep referring to and his herd of Brummbars? Propeller Just teasing of course! This is the first Brummbar I've ever tackled and Tony did a nice job on his...I believe it was the pre-zimmed kit though that he worked on but am not 100% certain.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, May 7, 2012 9:18 AM

looks good Bill,that Atak zimm looks like good stuff to use.

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Posted by Hinksy on Monday, May 7, 2012 9:08 AM

Hey Tony,

You have to love the Brummbars! Monstrous beasts!

The other Dragon Brummbar (early?) was my first Dragon kit and tested my then, very limited skills, to the max!

It came out really well in the end and was a real learning curve for me. I look at it and am tempted to bring it to the bench again for a makeover. I'm thinking of pulling all the tools off along with the Jack for a repaint and also adding Friuls (it currently has DS one piece tracks on it).

A final freshening of the weathering should finish her off nicely. Back when I built her I knew little about weathering methods and the AK products that I know use with such great results weren't around back when I originally built this.

I seem to recall you building the other version of the Brummbar (the same as mine) not a year back? Is that right?

Good luck with the build Tony - keep the updates coming Yes 

Ben Big Smile

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, May 6, 2012 10:46 PM

I too didn't expect you to fire this up so fast.

I think the Atak zimmert is even better then Cavalier, alas at a much higher price. 

This should be fun and different, since we don't get to see to many of these built up.

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 Eric 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, May 6, 2012 9:19 PM

Bill- I hate to be the bearer of bad news... I already have the kit in my stash.  So it means you can not make me go out and buy a kit this time.  I suspect you work for Dragon and you make us go out and buy their products. Whistling

But I will have to buy the Zimm set or maybe use the old school method.  Of course please count me in to follow your WIP! Beer

 

 

Andy

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Posted by treadwell on Sunday, May 6, 2012 8:57 PM

Cool Bill :  )  .... isn't it gonna drive you nuts ?   ..... I mean the lack of an open top or complete interior to do all your great detailing ?  Brummbär is a cool vehicle...always reminds me of a mini sturmTiger.

the zimm looks great so far

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, May 6, 2012 7:11 PM

Did not think you were going to start this build so soon but am glad you did.  Off to a good start and always good to have all of those wheels cleaned up and done.  Nice picture of the real one makes for a great reference.  Really like that Atak zim and even though I can not comment from experience, looks like you did a really good job with it so far.  This is the perfect build for that zim with those great big flat casemate bulkheads.  Looking good Yes

Rob

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DML Brummbar Mid COMPLETE 07-30-12
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, May 6, 2012 6:00 PM

Started on a new project this weekend,  DML's kit #6460 Sdkfz 166 Stu.Pz. IV "Brummbar" Mid Production with Atak zim and MK workable tracks.

A new project means starting at the beginning...so as you would expect with a Dragon Pz IV kit, Step 1 meant spending a lot of time on the sprockets, idlers, return rollers, and road wheels. I found a reference pic of one of the 3 vehicles the kit markings provide for, the Command version #1, and used that as a guide to decide on the style of idlers and return rollers. All of the road wheel halves had their mold seams sanded away with a sanding stick but left unassembled to make it easier to paint them later on.

I also assembled a short run of 8 links of the MK set to double-check the spacing on the sprockets, idlers, and return rollers to make sure everything would play nice later on as well.

Step 2 deals with the rear hull plate and I installed that to the lower hull first and then added the details to avoid issues with stuff getting in the way of a good join. Some light sanding at the base of the plate was all that was required to get a good fit with the weld seam line there. The Atak zim panels for the rear were added using Gator Grip glue and regular liquid glue around the edges to tack things down where needed. I opted for the heavy-duty towing hitch since that was a regular feature on Pz IV chassis at the time the Mid version of Brummbar's were built.

Step 3 deals with the hull front and the addition of the final drive front base plates. It's a good idea to install the nose plate first and then add the final drive plates after as they are a tight fit due to the small bolt detail on the one side of the drive plates. The tow points were added and the pins needed some trimming to fit correctly in the openings. Once that was set, I added the bolt-on armor plate for the nose underside from Step 6 and the installed the zim panels. Some slight putty work was needed between the joins on the two plate panels, easily taken care of with some Squadron White putty and a little sanding.

Next up will be the suspension and lower hull sides.

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