Plane Build

Hmmmm... this is tough LOL....a chance to buy more models cannot be ignored...even my wife agrees!!

I am torn between either a Sherman...or the British tank that fired the huge 40 lb. "flying dustbins"....anyone know the name of that one...and kit availability??

The shermans with the snorkels(sp) are made by italeri but it may need some conversion to be dday compatable.

OK...so I was told that British tank was a Churchill with the Petard Mortar...was there any special designation that I should look under when I do a search?? Like a certain Mark tank or something?? Still deciding LOL

Never mind... found it-- it's the Churchill AVRE...let's see if I can find a kit for it...love that 290mm spigot mortar!!!!

Nice choice of kit Joe.

I may get in on this one, but there is another G.B (Stug/Sturm) starting in early August. I have a Ki-84 Frank and a P-47. Hmm.... choices. Probably a ton of P-47's floating around, maybe the Frank.

Hmmm... I guess if I want to build an AVRE, I'd have to but the Tamiya kit and then an aftermarket set from either KK Castings or Alby (which also have the Petard mortar)-- but I can't seem to find these AM sets anywhere....and I imagine it'd be cheaper and easier for my first tank build not to have to hack a kit apart...so I guess a Tamiya Sherman is up my alley...now I just need Robert on MSN Messenger to chat about which one LOL

Yeah,
I used to build planes until i came to the dark side, I dont knwo if i wasnt to build tamiya's me262 w/ ketterang (haha still armor), or a B-25 that i promised to have a min group build with my 12 year old cousin when he comes up in the summer, choices choices.

Oh by the way we should proabably tell the flyboys about this. Could of of those boys be in charge of that forum while i am in charge of this one (kinda like a winston churchill, and I am IKE) LOL

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeeves Hmm... what exactly is the name of the Sherman Snorkel tanks that came up on the Normandy beaches?? That might be interesting...especially if Tamiya makes them...

Not that it matters, since you are not doing one, but it is a DD tank (Duplex Drive). Alot of shows about them on Discovery and History Channels lately.

I didn't think the DD tanks were the snorkels-- I thought they were different?? I might do this one....since this is a backwards build and not the DDay build- who cares if it's a Pacific tank, right? I am still deciding LOL I have some time though, so I'll take it ;)

I don't understand the rivalry between the plane modelers and the armor modelers. I build more armour than aircraft, but I build both, and ships and wargames pieces and animals (mostly resin garage kits) and movie monsters and anything else that strikes my fancy.

Could someone explain it to me, in fifty words or less? Is it the eternal need of hobbyists to have rivals in the hobby? Man's inhumanity to man? El Nino?

Larry, I think you're reading way too much into this. I feel it's a very friendly rivalry. Kind of a "my stick's bigger than your stick" kind of thing. I certainly hope no one seriously thinks less (or more) of anyone solely because of the kind of modeling they do. If someone has the interest, resources and time to model in all the different venues, I honor them for it! I mean, diversity in hobbies is what this country is founded upon. Mom, apple pie, and choice of kits! How can any of us believe for one minute that the cause of freedom is being threatened by ones choice of kit! Freedom of choice in models has become the beacon to which the opressed and down trodden peoples of the earth have turned their gaze with the sure knowledge that there is a better life for them. We should all strive to insure that free choice in modeling is given to all those seeking and willing to accept it. The word must go forth. This is our mission. I call for all modelers in good standing to join in this cause. The modeling oppressed of the world must be set free!
Thank you.


Sorry. Couldn't resist!! lol

Oh, count me in. I'm sure I can find something in my wingy thingy stash to finally get started. Any help in chosing an appropriate model is appreciated.

I think of this as a friendly rivalry.... and if I can do as good a job on a tank as those who do it all the time- then bully for me At the same time-- if you guys can do as well or better on a plane than I can- then good on ya!

Hey I think I am going to build the Tamiya Sherman, in oh 1/16 scale

No Ill do it in 1/35

Hey Scubaboy,
Does the history channel (I don't get cable) mention that the 70th Tank Battalion landed all but three of their DD's? None of them sank in the surf, but three went down with a landing craft when it hit a mine.

Ron

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeeves I didn't think the DD tanks were the snorkels-- I thought they were different?? I might do this one....since this is a backwards build and not the DDay build- who cares if it's a Pacific tank, right? I am still deciding LOL I have some time though, so I'll take it ;)

Ooops, sorry. Yes, the snorkels were different than the DD's. I thought you meant that ooops!

Larry- It's kinda like cross county high school football teams, minus the use of a ball and tackling..... that part doesn't fit in well with models .

QUOTE: Originally posted by Poniatowski Hey Scubaboy, Does the history channel (I don't get cable) mention that the 70th Tank Battalion landed all but three of their DD's? None of them sank in the surf, but three went down with a landing craft when it hit a mine. Ron

No, I don't think so. The show mostly focused on Omaha (if that was Omaha, they were wrong because they said only 2 tanks got to shore). They were basically answering "why didn't the tanks get to shore on Omaha, when the did at every other beach?". They went scuba diving () in France and found a tank that sunk, but they didn't go into too much detail about the units involved and ones that were destroyed by what, they were just interested in the ones that sunk.

Wait a minute... do you airheads not weather your models, i have been looking at yours and all i can see are exhuast stains and barel stains!

Yeah Larry, I concur that their is a friendly rivalry going. I think we each respect the other forums and the work that they do. After all, many of the members build more than one topic and the interest is in many more. I think that this build is a great idea to get that kid in us to try something that they maybe wanted to do, but needed that proverbial kick in the to get started. It also makes a nice change of pace.

Yeh this would be something to see, I join in on this but who is going to keep an eye on the 'Wingy Thingy's' as you Armour guy's call us aircraft modeller's. I have a few ground pounders that I could put together. A question with the AFV's are thet restricted to any era and Country. Reason I ask I have a couple of resin conversions to do Aussie AFV's.

Rob.

I am in, and hope to do a Revell 1/32 Fiesler Storch. If I can't afford it, something 1/72 and ww2. I am in the Stug Build, but I usually do a few things at once.

The rivalry is great, and definitely friendly. I sneak in and look at the planes all the time.
I am just better at armour than I am at aircraft, or ships, or spacemen or dinosaurs. I like looking at all of them. For me it is jus that Australian thing of being nasty(in jest) to people you like, and not talking to those you don't!

I like the rules, except for the help thing, as most of us would have ventured across the modelling divide before, I think help should be able to come from anywhere.
Besides, what could be funnier than trashtalking someone for ages and then asking them "Erm,....how do I stop my wings falling off?"

awasoda check out some of swanny's builds, a/c can defiinately be weathered heavily.

joe

wipw what kind of a/c are you interested in? modern, ww2, or other. what do you want a simple paint scheme or a complicated one (knowing that if you pic german a/c the camos are pretty similar to armor camos). there are many choices from a very simple tamiya kit with a simple od over neutral gray to a me 109 with a complicated tricolor camo scheme.

larry the rivalry is in pure fun. if one goes a bit overboard then they are politely informed of such. i am just beginning to understand the ins and outs of armor. i have a great respect for all the darkside. the builds are outstanding. and many of its members i call friends.(see good friends thread) i honestly believe the rivalry is one of the reasons i began to look at armor as an option to build.

joe

joe

I'm in I'll be building Academy's 1/72 Corsair, those planes are so cool.

Thanks for the reply, Joe. As far as wingy thingies go, I've always been partial to WWI, WWII and some of the exotics (like x-planes and spy-craft). However I also really would like to build up a same scale set of Century planes. I have a pretty sizable collection of unbuilt wingies I've aquired over the years. Most of what I have is 1/48 and 1/72. (I have an Aurora C-141 too, but I won't be building that one!!)
My big concern for this build is, do I want to do something I can build "quick and dirty" that isn't worth spending the time and money to fix up, or something like a Hasagewa Me 109 and really do it up right! One thing I'm not considering is anything with an nmf! I just am not that good on that fuse seam!
Anyway, probably no one can help me decide except myself, but thanks. (I will listen to any and all suggestions!)

Well-- I can see our two boards getting a bit closer with this even if we can't interact for advice...but that'll just bring me closer with my winged brothers....

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeeves I didn't think the DD tanks were the snorkels-- I thought they were different?? I might do this one....since this is a backwards build and not the DDay build- who cares if it's a Pacific tank, right? I am still deciding LOL I have some time though, so I'll take it ;)

snorkel version is 'wading trunk' Sherman...
it has the 2 large rectangular thingies that look
like HVAC ducts on rear deck...
'Duplex Drive' Sherman has what looks like canvas tent material
all around it in a collapsible metal framework....
wading trunk version served in ETO (D-Day landings) & PTO...

not sure any Duplex Drive Shermies in PTO, but u know who can answer that one...

HTH,
frosty

QUOTE: Originally posted by phroosh I like the rules, except for the help thing, as most of us would have ventured across the modelling divide before, I think help should be able to come from anywhere. Besides, what could be funnier than trashtalking someone for ages and then asking them "Erm,....how do I stop my wings falling off?"

& LOL !
how r we going 2 learn anything
if we don't ask questions of those who know the answers ?
as 4 me, i will share the little i know w/ whoever asks...
modelers unite... u have nothing 2 lose but ur prejudices !

frosty

a suggestion. as this build is to be a form of bringing a respect for building things we would not normally build, build a moderaltely challenging kit with a moderately challenging scheme. maybe a 109 with a moderate scheme or a tricolor usn ww2 bird. either will turn out great. as for the company that would depend upon your stash.

armor folks have a great basis for german a/c. the camos would be no problem for people who build so much with such complicated schemes. but like you said you make the choice. seeing the fantastic builds though i cant help but hope for a darkside member to build a difficult kit just for the experience.

joe

Ok, maybe you are all right, we should be albe to ask for help, maybe i was just caught up in the moment, i will go change that right now.

Jeeves, since you have been involved in this thread would you like to be in charge of the a/c forum guys? I will need some help on this.

Rule 5 has changed, we may talk with the other members of the a.c forum and vice versa

NOTE: THE FOLLOWING IS A JOKE......
How hard can it be to glue a dumb plane together? I'm in.
NOTE: THE PRECEDING WAS A JOKE......

I'm in though. Sounds like fun and a chance to contact some others.

As far as rivalries go, how 'bout a paratrooper from the 82nd saying to his buddy in bar in England in front of some guys from the 101st. "What's the eagles screaming about?" reply, "Help! Help! Help!".
Rivalries are just plain fun...