Bakster

Did you have more info on this Tim?

OK... But only because you "specifically" asked.

The builder is known as Aztek Dummy   A.K.A.: Lou Dalmaso.

http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=45991

He used the kit from Crowsnest model's (I am having difficulty getting a direct line to them, but I will post the link's I have anyway, just in case you all want to have some  "Interweb " fun / frustration. )

http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=45385

http://www.crowsnestmodels.com/  ( this link appear's to go nowhere...)

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/468572914/spectacular-pota-icarus-model-kit-ready-for-produc ( apperently he ran out of funding sometime in 2013 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tUTfipJdR8&version=3&hl=en_US

And the link to Rob McFarlane's build of the kit.

http://www.modelermagic.com/?cat=2340

Hope this isn't an "overload" of Planet of the Ape's  teck for you..... ( sure made my compu ... er...um.... my rock with letter's on it, smoke a bit. )

littletimmy

OK... But only because you "specifically" asked.

You are a good man Charlie Brown. Thanks for all this good info.

That kit looks absolutely awesome!!!!!!! I am drooling here. But guess what? It is no longer available. The people behind this company shut down. That is probably why you are having trouble with the link. What a MAJOR bummer because this kit RULES!

I have not checked all the links you posted but I will. 

Gamera

Lol Bakster! Love the action figures and you're making great progress on the Icarus too!!!

Thanks, Gamera!

And yeah about the name. There is some history about that. The little I know on that is that the name was coined to the ship by a modeler casting it in an unfavorable light. It wasn't me, honest. Somehow, the name stuck to it. Whether that story is true, I do not know. But, that is what I read. 

Timmy... just look at that thing. Everything I need looks to have come with that kit. Figures, cryo chambers, engine bells, instrumentation, and more. I love how the model is broken down into multi-subassemblies. Ugh, if only. Instead, I will spend multi weeks just trying to fix the mess mine came as. And then, countless more weeks fabricating the things that I didn't get. I still say a bullet to mine might be the best answer. Lol.

Yeah I know. Beggars can't be choosers.

littletimmy

apperently he ran out of funding sometime in 2013 )

Sorry, I missed that nugget in your post. My eyes glazed over at the sight of this beauty.

Bakster

Everything I need looks to have come with that kit.

I know. I almost hated to post that picture.... ( I knew it would make you drool)

One of those link's has his E-mail address. He "may" still have one or two laying around. But be prepaired .... The asking price back then was $150.00. ( totally worth it ,.. if you ask me.)

The "GOOD" new's is, get a good close up look at the kit's part's. You might be able to "Reverse Engenier" them and make your own part's that way. ( At least get a good look at the Instrement pannel's ... that's what they are "SUPPOSED " to look like !)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tUTfipJdR8&version=3&hl=en_US Look at about 1:23 into the video. good shot of the Instrument pannel.

littletimmy

I know. I almost hated to post that picture.... ( I knew it would make you drool)

Buddy, I would have paid $150 for this. Like you said, totally worth it. 

I suggest to MIM, if you have your ears on, buy this guys mold and make this. This kit is what the model should be. 

Sigh. 

Tim, I am not that ambitious to try and duplicate all that. Maybe I will change my tune, doubtful, cuz the most productive part of my M O J O is being wasted on fixing what I shouldnt have to fix. I am not happy with what they sent me. It is unfortunate. 

Bakster

Tim, I am not that ambitious to try and duplicate all that. Maybe I will change my tune, doubtful, cuz the most productive part of my M O J O is being wasted on fixing what I shouldnt have to fix. I am not happy with what they sent me. It is unfortunate.   

You are not alone.

Motivational PM sent.( or it may be proof that this type of kitbashing best be left to mental patient's ...)

Gamera

isn't that the same as naming it 'Explosion'???

Well, there's an old cowboy habit of naming horses opposit to their nature.

Much as out Australian friends call redheads "Blueie," a horse called "Crampuff," "Dandelion," is to be eyed very much askance.  While "Nitemare," "Demon," and the like are often the creme de le creme.

Humans, we is perverse.

Bakster

The people behind this company shut down.

Perhpas they were taken over by apes . . .

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

The people behind this company shut down.

 

 

Perhpas they were taken over by apes . . .

 

CapnMac82

 

 

Gamera

isn't that the same as naming it 'Explosion'???

 

 

Well, there's an old cowboy habit of naming horses opposit to their nature.

Much as out Australian friends call redheads "Blueie," a horse called "Crampuff," "Dandelion," is to be eyed very much askance.  While "Nitemare," "Demon," and the like are often the creme de le creme.

Humans, we is perverse.

 

Lol, or I suppose nicknaming a huge guy 'Tiny'

littletimmy

 

 

Bakster

Everything I need looks to have come with that kit.

 

 

I know. I almost hated to post that picture.... ( I knew it would make you drool)

One of those link's has his E-mail address. He "may" still have one or two laying around. But be prepaired .... The asking price back then was $150.00. ( totally worth it ,.. if you ask me.)

The "GOOD" new's is, get a good close up look at the kit's part's. You might be able to "Reverse Engenier" them and make your own part's that way. ( At least get a good look at the Instrement pannel's ... that's what they are "SUPPOSED " to look like !)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tUTfipJdR8&version=3&hl=en_US Look at about 1:23 into the video. good shot of the Instrument pannel.

 

 

Ouch that's a shame... looks like a beautiful detail set!

Maybe I should get off my butt and order that detail set for AMT's old Enterprise bridge before it goes out of production too...

Gamera

Maybe I should get off my butt and order that detail set for AMT's old Enterprise bridge before it goes out of production too...

My friend, just do it. 

Work continues on reducing the gaps between the two clam shells. I have to fix the bodylines at the rear of the ship too. The more I look at this, the more it looks like the top piece either flattened as it cooled or flattened as it was pulled out of the mold. I probably have 16 hours into fixing this and I am not there yet. I've got the gaps looking pretty good though. Now, I need to finish fixing the misalignments at the rear. All that, I have nothing new to show you. So, here is some food for thought:

For me, there are probably two segments in the POTAs movie that will always make me ponder. It is the very beginning, and the very ending. I kind of like the beginning. It makes me ponder on what traveling at light speed might be like.

And that completes my final report until we reach touchdown. We're now on full automatic in the hands of the computer. (Is that you Hal? I don't want any MONKEY business out of you.)

I've tucked my crew in for the long sleep (One to a dirt nap), I'll be joining them soon. In less than an hour we'll finish our sixth month out of cape Kennedy. Six months in deep space by our time, that is.

According to Dr. Hasslein's theory of time, in a vehicle traveling nearly the speed of light, the Earth has aged nearly 700 years since we left. While we've aged hardly at all.

Heh. Maybe so. This much is probably true. The men who sent us on this journey are long since dead and gone. You who are reading me now are a different breed. I hope a better one. I leave the 20th century with no regrets.

One more thing... if anybody is listening that is. Nothing scientific, it's purely personal. But seen from out here... everything seems different. Time bends, space is boundless. It squashes a mans ego.

I feel lonely.

 One thing that never made sense to me, was the ship's cronometer read that they were 700 year's into the future.

But the ape's were quoting the "Scroll's" which were written some 1500 year's before.

And at the "Dig" in the forbidden zone, Cornilious was giving us date's of the layer's as being some 3000 year's before.

So did tayler travel 700 year's ? Or 3 or 4 Thousand year's into the future ?

The "Time Travel" year's are all over the place.

( Or am I "remembering" thing's all messed up?...)

littletimmy

Or 3 or 4 Thousand year's into the future ?

O.K. .....

You just hit the 7000 view's mark .... Hmmmmm.... what to give as a Prize .... Hmmmm....

How about an evening with Dr.Zaius ? you can ask him any question's about Planet of the Ape's you want.

Oh .... OK.      Hmmmmm ..... how about a date with "What's her name ? ...

Oh .... well that wont fly ..... Hmmm......     Oh !   I got it !

Prime real estate on The Planet of the Ape's !

Your choice of location's on this map.

( Chose carefully .... the neighbor's can be a bit ..... Hostile to human's . )

Tim, thanks for the 7k prize. I'd like a spot as far away as possible from them monkey's. Maybe a spot in the forbidden zone. They are terrified to go in there. I can retrofit some of what remains there and maybe even make a hobby bench.

littletimmy

So did tayler travel 700 year's ? Or 3 or 4 Thousand year's into the future ?

Tim-- here is the sequence where Taylor checks the Earth time clock just before escaping the sinking ship.

OK.

I must have read the thing wrong. I thought the readout was...

Earth Time: 2672 

If your moving to the "Forbidden Zone" , Dont borrow sugur from these guy's 

They will probably keep you up all night, ... what with all their "Chanting" and "worshiping " their Bomb God...

( beside's .... have you seen their backyard ?  What a mess ! )

littletimmy

If your moving to the "Forbidden Zone" , Dont borrow sugur from these guy's 

LOL.  Good catch. I thought about them too. I am not sure which is worse.

Constant acceleration is pretty spiffy (if you have the reaction mass/specific impulse to carry it off).

At 1G acceleration, 6 months (180 days) gives us 152,513,020 meters per second.

Which is 0.508728675222 C.

The time dialation is 99.99870596730243%

Chuckling along for 700 years gives a ship elapsed time of 3.561146808966156 years.

Except, you need to whoa.

Which could take another 700.5 years, for an elapsed Earth time of 1401 years.  With a ship time of about 7 years.

Sites used to calcuate the above astoning figures:  http://www.emc2-explained.info/Dilation-Calc/#.W1T_fcKQzs1

And:  https://rechneronline.de/g-acceleration/

But, as long as you keep to Einsteinian relativity, it's possible to calibrate chronometers on the ship to accurately translate the values. 

Note, that's pending some experimental data, there are hypotheses out there pending experimental conditions, to be certain that cesium decay will remain constant even at relatiistic speeds.  The longhairs are not entirely united in whether general relativity "keeps" atomic level change constant, or if Special relativity begins to apply to measuring decay.

Space is cool.  Nerdy cool

I understood some of that ......

But, now my head hurt's.....

littletimmy

I understood some of that ......

But, now my head hurt's.....

OK...

Let's see if I got this right.

Bakster

In less than an hour we'll finish our sixth month out of cape Kennedy. Six months in deep space by our time, that is.

Bakster

According to Dr. Hasslein's theory of time, in a vehicle traveling nearly the speed of light, the Earth has aged nearly 700 years since we left. While we've aged hardly at all.

so the above picture would be their time as of the 6 month mark. (700 year's)

And this is the readout as of the crashlanding on The Planet of the Ape's.

So 1375 years have "Elapsed" since leaving Earth. It still dont add up right , to me.

Oops , wait a moment... 1375 years since the 6 month mark. So it's actually a total time of 2075 year's . Now we're in the "Ballpark.

( Now my brain "REALLY" hurt's ! )

littletimmy

Now we're in the "Ballpark.

Thank goodness. I was afraid I might have to get the calculator out. Then I'd have a headache.

Bakster

I was afraid I might have to get the calculator out

Yea... I ran out of finger's while doing my calculation's ...

( had to take my shoes off to continue....   19 ... 20 ! )

By my calculations they were gone 2006 years. I took 3978 - 1972. 1972 is the year they left. Another clue shown below. Taylor is saying Landon is 2031 years old. You'd have to subtract his age when he left Earth to get the time traveled. We don't know his age but... if we subtact 2006 from 2031, he is was 25 years old.

Not sure I am doing this right but it seems to add up. 

littletimmy

Yea... I ran out of finger's while doing my calculation's ... ( had to take my shoes off to continue....   19 ... 20 ! )