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ICARUS/LIBERTY 1 BUILD (Completed 4-18-21)

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:44 AM

Greg
You know, of all the years I spent on the good 'ol ink jet printing support forum, I never once saw just "using [your] printer a lot" as a suggestion. You're a genius.

 

LOL.  That is funny.

In this case, I think printing regaulary does keep the heads clean. What a racket these printers are. Either way you are forced to use their expensive ink. I think they designed it this way. Heck...I cycled my printer through two cleanings and my brand new black ink cartridge, not even used yet, dropped to 1/4th available. I'll have to go get another one. How rediculous is that! Son of a ... Grrrr.

BTW.  Clapper says howdy. He also says you are the man. Yes

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:46 AM

Is that the tech version of 'walking it off'? Wink

Lol, glad to hear she's back to working well! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, April 2, 2020 12:59 PM

Gamera
Is that the tech version of 'walking it off'?

Funny but true!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, April 4, 2020 5:53 PM

Bakster
So what is left?

You left off 'social distancing" and "including a TP stash."

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, April 4, 2020 6:09 PM

Bakster
I have found my Inkjet is hopelessly mucked up. This is a problem for when I get to decals. It prints but even after cleaning I get dropout. I don't print often enough, and this happens to every printer I have ever owned. I hate inkjets for this reason. I don't see the value of buying yet another printer

Sadly, this overt bit of highway robbery persists right out in the open, unchecked.

The printer makers deliberately price their printers under break even. and Supply you with no more than quarter-full ink reservoirs.

None of which is helped by the clean up run on every printer power-on which uses a criminal amount of ink which is just dumped in a waste reservoir in the bottom of the printer.

It's not uncommon that an ink refill costs 150% of the printer's cost.  That on purpose.  Ink mark up is (depending on who you rely upon) between 800 & 1200% (offset, slightly  by the long overhead time sitting on the shelves.)  Oh, and those widgets the printers force onto your screen's desktop?  Hopelessly biased.  They report all sorts of things that encourage only buying high-markup ink, not better printer use/maintenance.  [grrr]

There was, in an egghead tech journal I read, and excellent economic analysis showing that it was better to just replace cheap inkjets when the ink goes dry.  Which is patently absurd, and irresponsibly wasteful, but, there it is.  The fact that there is very little to differentiate between an $80 3-in-1 and a $300 cersion, this is even more striking.

Now, dye-sublimation printers are different; but, those are specialty items bought be people who do know better, and are likely to come storm your corporate castle with burning pitchforks if you pull shenanigans on them.

Sadly, color fused toner printers are hinting towards the same evil as inkjets.

My HP Envy was destined for the bin just before this plague hit, to be replaced wit ha Brother color-toner machine (as I have no need for a fax machine, and virtually none for scanning).

I commiserate with your printer woes, and sasly, cannot offer better hope nor news on that front.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 5, 2020 12:34 AM

CapnMac82
I commiserate with your printer woes, and sasly, cannot offer better hope nor news on that front.

Thanks Capn. That was an excellent breakdown of the problem and it shows just how bad the problem truly is. It is very sad indeed.  

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 5, 2020 12:34 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
So what is left?

 

You left off 'social distancing" and "including a TP stash."

 

Lol. So true.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 5, 2020 9:26 PM

At this point I needed to deal with the structures noted below. The raised ring is in the way of what I plan to do, and the bars, I just didn't care for. And if I did care for them, it would have taken an unholy amount of time to clean them up. It would be easier to remove and replace. I am not sure if I will replace them though. 

I am probably repeating myself but this plastic is not much fun to work with. This material is a bear to sand. I used a grinder to remove the bulk of those details followed by a heavy dose of 200 grit sandpaper.

Again, this is not much to look at, but this little step sucked up over three hours of time. Drip. Drip. Drip. Drip is the sound of this build.  Beer Wink

What's next? A search for some toilet paper? Negative. Happily, I have enough, and Clapper doesn't use any. What can I tell ya... he likes to rough it.

The plan, as I see it now, is to make a bulkhead that follows the shape of the sleep chambers while framing the opening of the ship. The idea here is to create a frame that blocks some undesirables, and at the same time, provide a nice aesthetic look. Following that will be another bulkhead. This one is intended to be removeable. Engine bells are attached here, and I am leaning toward attaching the emergency (LED) light to it too.

End of update.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 6, 2020 7:39 AM

Bakster: It all looks good to me from here. Sigh, I know what you mean- when a project  just seems to be more and more work... Sad

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, April 6, 2020 8:03 AM

I missed a couple days, shame on me. It's not as if I'm busy or something....

Back the the Cap's ink comments, dye sub and laser are options, but not everyone knows that pro labs use (....drumroll please....) inkjet printers.

The prosumer and pro models at least have much larger ink carts that though very expensive, are much less cost per milliliter of ink. I recall some guys installing systems where they'd have jugs of ink feeding the individual color printheads by rubber tubes. These used to be commercially available, no idea if they still are.

But you hit the nail on the head, color printing at home on consumer printers is a rip-off by design. The rationization for pro-grade home printing is that though it is very expensive, one is able to achieve pro-lab quality results and have absolute control over everything.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program, scale modeling by Stevie.....

EDIT: .....and Clapper. (Oops!)

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 6, 2020 10:00 AM

Gamera
I know what you mean- when a project  just seems to be more and more work... 

I don't mean to complain about it, though maybe I am. Truth is... I can't go too fast because I need to keep Nino rolling along in Icarus fodder. Wink

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 6, 2020 10:06 AM

Greg-- Thanks for the additional printer commentary. If I ever decide to dive into a better printer--I know the guys to talk to! Yes

Quoting Hee Haw....  

 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, April 6, 2020 10:21 AM

Bakster
Greg-- Thanks for the additional printer commentary. If I ever decide to dive into a better printer--I know the guys to talk to!

....or I could just advise you now. DON"T DO IT!!! Stick out tongue

PS, those folk from Hee Haw probably know about photo printing than I do these days, I've been away from it for so long. OTOH, as I understand it, not much has changed in the last 10-15 yrs anyway.

I got the biggest kick out of that show back in the day.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 6, 2020 10:43 AM

Greg
..or I could just advise you now. DON"T DO IT!!!

That is the best advice for sure.

Yeah. Hee Haw was a hoot!!!

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 6, 2020 11:10 AM

Bakster

 

 
Gamera
I know what you mean- when a project  just seems to be more and more work... 

 

I don't mean to complain about it, though maybe I am. Truth is... I can't go too fast because I need to keep Nino rolling along in Icarus fodder. Wink

 

Don't sweat it. Sometimes you want to just finish the blasted thing and move on to something else. 

And I know what you guys mean about printers. I have one at home but I've been using the work one for the few times I need to print something out for about a decade now. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 6, 2020 3:24 PM

Gamera
Don't sweat it. Sometimes you want to just finish the blasted thing and move on to something else.

Amen Brother, I am there. But I am going to stick with it, or it won't get done. When this build is finished you will hear a hoot that reverberates around the world. People will say, "What was that?" People in the know will say, "Oh, that's just bakster. He just finished the Icarus build."

I will buy a big fat juicy steak, throw it on the grill, and pop a few beers. My neighbors will say, "What's the occasion?" I will say, " I just finished the Icarus build." They will say, "Oh! No dang way! Party on man!"

Lol. 

Yeah man. I thought about the work printer too but us poorly sales people only have access to non-color printers. Dagnabbit. 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 6, 2020 3:27 PM

If you grill the steak outside while dressed in an ape costume I swear the neighbors will talk about it for years... 

Big Smile

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Monday, April 6, 2020 3:37 PM

Gamera

If you grill the steak outside while dressed in an ape costume I swear the neighbors will talk about it for years... 

Big Smile

 

I like that idea.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 6, 2020 4:09 PM

Oh man... that is a hoot!  I like the idea as well. And you know... you guys are welcome to the party too. I will cover the cost of the food and drink... you cover the cost of your ape costumes.

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Posted by Greg on Monday, April 6, 2020 6:55 PM

I'll bring the bananas.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, April 6, 2020 8:09 PM

Bakster
I will buy a big fat juicy steak, throw it on the grill, and pop a few beers. My neighbors

Hmm, so, basically, you have to wait until the plague has passed, or you will attract a crowd who will want to be closer thna 6 feet.  (It's also durst hard to eat a steak while wearing a mask; much like adjusting one's reading glasses while wearing an M-40 mask.)

Good news is that the boffins are starting to concur with a US peak of about 15 April, which ought to allow the beginings of "normal" 3 to 4 weeks later.  Although, that also could be a bit of pressure, too--so no rushing on that account, or you'll upset the apes.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:01 AM

Greg

I'll bring the bananas.

 

That Gif is a hoot! Lol.

Clapper will be so mad! Not so much that you drop kicked em. No. He will be mad that you absconded with his bananas!

He will get over it though.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:14 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
I will buy a big fat juicy steak, throw it on the grill, and pop a few beers. My neighbors

 

Hmm, so, basically, you have to wait until the plague has passed, or you will attract a crowd who will want to be closer thna 6 feet.  (It's also durst hard to eat a steak while wearing a mask; much like adjusting one's reading glasses while wearing an M-40 mask.)

Good news is that the boffins are starting to concur with a US peak of about 15 April, which ought to allow the beginings of "normal" 3 to 4 weeks later.  Although, that also could be a bit of pressure, too--so no rushing on that account, or you'll upset the apes.

 

This is quite the dilemma that you present. Laughing. I sure hope that I make it to the end of the build because I want that steak and grog. 

Reading over the paradox your wrote, something occurred to me. Wouldn't it be a kick if I nearly get this project done when someone comes out with a sweet model kit of the Icarus? Then I might need to start all over, AGAIN! Oh the humanity!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 11:56 AM

Maybe I can find a haz-mat suit that looks like a gorilla. 

I can eat twenty feet away from everyone else. Not being rude, just social-distancing. 

 

Assuming Greg doesn't show up dressed as a giant banana and drop-kicks me tearing it open! Indifferent

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 2:17 PM

Gamera
Assuming Greg doesn't show up dressed as a giant banana and drop-kicks me tearing it open!

No worries. In real life, I'd break too many bones. Wink

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:46 AM

Greg

 

 
Gamera
Assuming Greg doesn't show up dressed as a giant banana and drop-kicks me tearing it open!

 

No worries. In real life, I'd break too many bones. Wink

 

Chuckle. 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:53 AM

Gamera

Maybe I can find a haz-mat suit that looks like a gorilla. 

I can eat twenty feet away from everyone else. Not being rude, just social-distancing. 

 

Assuming Greg doesn't show up dressed as a giant banana and drop-kicks me tearing it open! Indifferent

 
That's a funny image you present there, Gam.  A gorilla hazmat suit...hmm. 
 
And don't let Greg fool ya! Greg is every bit the ninja his gif shows. He'd pick us off like flies. We'd be knocked out and he'd be eating our steaks. Even Clapper wouldn't know what hit em.
 
LOL

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:56 AM

Oh boy......

Big Smile

Man, is our cooped-up-ed-ness showing or what?

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 8, 2020 11:43 AM

Lol, Greg may pick us off. 

 

But I believe Captain Mac is really Batman.* Even Greg's ninja skills are no match for that!  

 

* Has anyone seen Capt Mac and Batman together? See that's proof they're both the same guy!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:31 PM

Greg

Oh boy......

Big Smile

Man, is our cooped-up-ed-ness showing or what?

 

Huh? What do mean by that...

I am being TOTALLY serious.  Wink

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