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ICARUS/LIBERTY 1 BUILD (Completed 4-18-21)

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  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:03 AM

Greg
Edit: It just occured to me that I would probably bend my personal boundaries even further for a roll of toilet paper.

Hey--try Walgreens if desperate. I noticed they had some when I stopped the other day. Surprise

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:13 AM

Bakster
Hey Greg--he was wearing gloves. Does that help? Chuckle.

Nope. Chuckle right back atcha.

Bakster
Hey--don't give up just yet. I'd recommend you call the store and ask. They might be able to manually enter the CC number into the scanner over the phone. Then all you'd have is them bringing it out. Please do that and report back. This is your Bakster assignment for the day.

Spot on. I normally won't do the number over the phone thing, but I can't help but trust anyone who owns a Hobbytown franchise. So yes I'd do that and I might try it.

Bakster
On another note. Please educate me on your love for the Tamiya Orange. What do you like about it? I have not tried it.

For good-fitting joins, it's hard to beat Tamiya Thin, Extra thin, Thin fast drying. I like the orange bottle stuff for joins that have gaps. It is thinck and fills gaps. Sort of reminds me of the old tube Testors tube glue we all used to use and love.

What I don't know is why it, or the old Testors tube glue work. I get that the thin stuff and others like it (containing MEK or whatever) work by welding the plastic together, but what about the thick stuff where the plastic to plastic contact is minimal?

Maybe somebody could enlighten me so I can sleep tonight.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:20 AM

Greg
I like the orange bottle stuff for joins that have gaps. It is thinck and fills gaps. Sort of reminds me of the old tube Testors tube glue we all used to use and love.

You know, I am need of something like this. I will get some when I restock. Thanks for enlightening me.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:20 AM

Bakster

Hey--try Walgreens if desperate. I noticed they had some when I stopped the other day. Surprise

That's interesting, thanks for the info.

Until the local utility stops providing water, I'm not too concerned about the TP thing, really. Out of courtesy and caring for my fearless domestic leader, however, I should be.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:24 AM

Greg

 

 
Bakster

Hey--try Walgreens if desperate. I noticed they had some when I stopped the other day. Surprise

 

 

That's interesting, thanks for the info.

Until the local utility stops providing water, I'm not too concerned about the TP thing, really. Out of courtesy and caring for my fearless domestic leader, however, I should be.

 

Ok but you are missing a great opportunity to over pay at Walgreens. 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:38 AM

Bakster
Ok but you are missing a great opportunity to over pay at Walgreens.

True dat.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, April 17, 2020 1:22 PM

Aside from paint, I think the exterior is done. The engine bells are not secured. I will do that later.

Below: To enhance alignments in construction, create stronger connection points, and help reduce glue slop when mounting later--I made locator pins. Corresponding holes are under the engine bells, not all the way through. 

Below is what I came up with for Capns greeble idea. Thanks for the tip Capn, I think it enhances it. I found them in my parts box, and they are highly modified.

From here I need to sort out how I can secure the module to the hull in a way that it is easy to remove. I will look at using magnets, but I am not crazy about the idea. If anyone has ideas, feel free to share.

Lastly, I ordered and received the LEDs I need for this project. I will also work to wire and mount the warning light to the back side of the panel.

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:58 PM

Excellent greeblage.  Your eye is often the best judge on how much or how little. 

The studio model of the Millenium Falcon notoriously is covered in Pather and Tiger tank rear decks.  One of the things that can be hard to "let go" off notions of what the part "is" rather than what you want it to be.  I can't say I ever even got close to good at it--leaf springs of a Studebaker truck still look like springs to me.  Sigh.

Bakster
I will look at using magnets

Magnets may be your best bet, though.  You can get them as small as 1mm diameter x 2 mm long--just remember to pair them. 

Now, I use them in wood working proects (if using 5 & 10mm rare earth examples) and they are hard to beat for slick and handy.  I use epoxy for wood working uses; I'd probably use a medium-thick CA in models.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:39 PM

I sure like the greeble idea, and they are looking good. I also like the 2 small nacelles. Yes

CapnMac82
One of the things that can be hard to "let go" off notions of what the part "is" rather than what you want it to be.

Never thought of that and find it interesting. I've never thought of adding a greeble, let alone done one, but I'll sure bet I'd do exactly what you said, Cap.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:27 PM

Greg
sure like the greeble idea, and they are looking good. I also like the 2 small nacelles.

Thanks Greggy. 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 PM

CapnMac82
Excellent greeblage. 

Thanks Capn.

CapnMac82
Magnets may be your best bet, though.

Agreed. My fear was that if I didn't do it right, it could lead to later damage from  constant pressure that the magnets will exert. It must be done correctly.  Happily, I had a good day. I will post an update shortly.

Thanks for all the good advice, Capn.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:49 PM

About a week ago I ordered neodymium magnets. I ordered 20 for less than $10, not including $3 for shipping. I thought I'd get extra for future projects. Anyway, what I purchased are 1/2" x 1/8" x 1/8".

Below: You can see some of the magnets I purchased in the lower right.

It was always my intent to mount them where I did, but I didn't expect to mount them as I did. Luck was on my side because I had some Evergreen styrene tubing that was just the right size. The bar magnets went into them with a nice, snug, fit. I smeared some epoxy in them for added measure. The assemblies are secured with epoxy as well. I hope the epoxy holds because I am a little disenchanted with the stuff. I will probably go back and add more for good measure.

 

Below: As you can see, I positioned the magnets behind the cab insert. I didn't want to ruin the aesthetics by having slopped up magnets in plain sight. Here is where the risk is though. Once the insert gets glued, there is no going back. If one or both magnets were to break loose, there is no fixing it, and then there is a danger of warping that insert wall. I feel confident in how I have it done though. 

Below: Following a similar process I used the same styrene tubing to make the metal counterparts. I cut steel screws to a length that gives a pull, but not too much pull. I was careful to align the assemblies with its counterpart. The screws are somewhat press fit, but I rely on epoxy, mostly.  

Below: And voila! It works! I am pleased how this worked out. There is a strong pull but not enough that I struggle to remove the piece. It has the perfect tention that I was looking for. 

There are a lot of things that could have fought me on this today, and usually, that is how it goes. Today, it fell into place swimmingly. It was a good day.

I will explore the LED light next. 

 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:53 PM

I know I sound like a broken record but I like what you've got there Bakster. I wouldn't have thought about the magnets but it looks like they're working out so far. Crossing my fingers.

BTW: I like the paint you used on the engine nozzles too.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, April 19, 2020 1:16 PM

Now that is slick. Yes

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, April 19, 2020 2:45 PM

Very slick, indeed.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 19, 2020 4:10 PM

Gamera
I know I sound like a broken record but I like what you've got there Bakster. I wouldn't have thought about the magnets but it looks like they're working out so far. Crossing my fingers. BTW: I like the paint you used on the engine nozzles too.

Hey Gam, thanks for the encouragement sir. It's working great thus far.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 19, 2020 4:12 PM

Greg

Now that is slick. Yes

 

Thanks Greg! It was a good day to build. Stick out tongue

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 19, 2020 4:13 PM

CapnMac82

Very slick, indeed.

 

Thanks as well Capn.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 19, 2020 4:41 PM

I pulled out my protoboard today and wired a (0606) SMD flashing Led. I wanted to see if its light output is bright enough, and it is. It lit up the cabin very well. I am glad because the size will be perfect for the space it's in. Which by the way, I am changing plans. I am moving the Led from the rear bulkhead to the forward bulkhead. The main reason is for wire routing purposes. However, I think it will be cooler there anyway. Before I can move forward on that though, I need to get some finer awg wire. While I wait for the wire, I will finish the rear bulkhead with paint and attach the engine bells. That's  the short term plan for the week.

Later gator. 

 

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 4:20 PM

Steve, You are not monkeying around now with adding LEDs and these superb Engine bells.

   I went back to re-read the thread again. What an enjoyable experience.  We have some excellent members with a wonderful grasp of language and a most enjoyable Wit.

   Thanks Steve.  This is better than two barrel fulls.

       Jim.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:27 PM

Nino
I went back to re-read the thread again. What an enjoyable experience. 

You are cracking me up again, Jim. Glad you are enjoying it. It makes all this effort worth it. And buddy--you deserve a medal. Yes

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:36 PM

Looking forward to seeing the LED in there and her all lighted up!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:46 PM

Bakster
While I wait for the wire, I will finish the rear bulkhead with paint and attach the engine bells. That's  the short term plan for the week.

Accomplished. 

That's enough fire power to propel Icarus to Ape Planet in no time. 

Green is an odd color to choose right? The movie prop has panels forward of the windows painted green. I thought it would bring balance to the paint scheme by doing the same at its tail.

So--next on the list is to make the emergency light.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:47 PM

Gamera

Looking forward to seeing the LED in there and her all lighted up!

 

Me too buddy.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:51 PM

Yup. Still there.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:36 AM

The green rear bulkhead and the colour of the engine bells look good to me! Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Thursday, April 23, 2020 8:53 AM

Gamera

The green rear bulkhead and the colour of the engine bells look good to me! Yes

 

Me too! Extremely cool and good-looking. Nice work.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, April 23, 2020 8:53 AM

Gamera

The green rear bulkhead and the colour of the engine bells look good to me! Yes

 

Thanks Cliff. I like it too. 

Btw. Don't ask me where the fuel is stored because there is no room for it. I guess we have to assume the engines are non-conventional. They'd have to be in order to reach light speed. 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, April 23, 2020 8:56 AM

Greg

 

 
Gamera

The green rear bulkhead and the colour of the engine bells look good to me! Yes

 

 

 

Me too! Extremely cool and good-looking. Nice work.

 

Thanks Greggy! Yeah it turned out better than I was hoping for. I didn't plan for it, it just worked out. It's a wonderful journey. 
Stick out tongue

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:35 AM

Bakster

 

 
Gamera

The green rear bulkhead and the colour of the engine bells look good to me! Yes

 

 

 

Thanks Cliff. I like it too. 

Btw. Don't ask me where the fuel is stored because there is no room for it. I guess we have to assume the engines are non-conventional. They'd have to be in order to reach light speed. 

 

Like the Millennium Falcon great big engines and no where for a gas tank... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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