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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:11 PM
I'm not roling in it either but that one I'm saving up for. Of course I'm only guessing at a price. The Hawk is nice and I'd like the Scorpion too.
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Posted by Woody on Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by StevenQ

Woody, if we ALL compared our work to Alfred Wong's(and his clones') we would all feel inferior. I mostly just drool at them in awe. Especially that 1/48th scale BSG shuttle. I'm gettin' that one! You might just e-mail him and ask him how he did it. I'm sure he'd give you some help. Your doing a better job than I could. Maybe take a break from it, don't look at it for a few days. come back to it fresh.........and stop beatin' yourself up already!!!Big Smile [:D]

That BSG shuttle is sweet and I'd love to have that Hawk fighter but I'm just a poor boy and will have to amuse myself with my homemade models. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Woody on Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Masao

Remember that my schematics are 2-D constructs that may or may not accurately translate into 3-D objects. I do my best, but 3-D CGI modelers often find they have to change things. So, don't worry too much about 100% fidelity to my schematics.

Well I love your design or I wouldn't be putting the effort into trying to reproduce it as it appears on your site. It's proportions are perfect to my eye.

Alfred Wong has been commisioned to produce masters.
http://www.alfredsmind.ca/commissions/samples6a.html
I thought it was you who did as it's your material. I'm usually a big fan of his work but I don't care for his version at all. I also don't like that it's a PL conversion to boot. Those nacelles don't look right at all.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:40 PM
Woody: Who else is making an Avenger, and where can we see it?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:39 PM
Remember that my schematics are 2-D constructs that may or may not accurately translate into 3-D objects. I do my best, but 3-D CGI modelers often find they have to change things. So, don't worry too much about 100% fidelity to my schematics.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:31 PM
Woody, if we ALL compared our work to Alfred Wong's(and his clones') we would all feel inferior. I mostly just drool at them in awe. Especially that 1/48th scale BSG shuttle. I'm gettin' that one! You might just e-mail him and ask him how he did it. I'm sure he'd give you some help. Your doing a better job than I could. Maybe take a break from it, don't look at it for a few days. come back to it fresh.........and stop beatin' yourself up already!!!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Woody on Saturday, February 26, 2005 4:34 PM
Wow. This dorsal hump that contains the shuttle hanger is turning into a bit of a challenge. I thought I was happy with it until I saw somebody elses pics of a master he is making of the Avenger class(that's right I'm not the only one). I guess I'm picky because I've been immersed in this project for awhile now. His master has proportion problems compared to Masao's drawings and the shuttle bay housing on his is too blocky. I compared mine to his and realized I wasn't 100% happy with my hanger so I'm almost done with doing it all over again. Hopefully there will be pics tonight or tomorrow.Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 26, 2005 3:11 AM
Hi, Ketr. Screen size, ie, 1024 pixels wide, would be good. Either email me at okazaki(at)jikei.ac.jp or put a link here.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:29 AM
Sorry Masao, I was away for a couple of days but sure just tell me what size do you need them, i'll be happy to sende them to you.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 25, 2005 7:41 PM
The "goop" in question is a mixture that Woody was kind enough to pass along. It starts with bits of styrene in a glass jar, add MEK(find at Home Despot) and let sit for a while until it turns into a, well, goop. Mine had just reached its "smooth peanut butter" consistancy needed as Woody mentioned. I was able to coat the bottom half this afternoon.
The bonus to this mix is, as using it for a putty of sorts, it dries as styrene that can be scribed. Scribing putty doesn't really work. Don't know about Bondo or epoxy putty. This is the first build where I'm using this. More pics to come. Mark if you need any help, let me know.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 25, 2005 12:32 PM
Oh...I have a question. What's the Goop method? I was going to use Magicsculp and some bondo for my masters. Still working on building a vacuum frame too.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 25, 2005 12:28 PM
Hey there StevenQ. Yup, that's me. Great to see your here too. And yes it was Paragon Plastics. The stuff I bought there is what I'll be using for this build. I'm currently working on a card stock prototype of the ship to get all my measurements rights. then I'll use those as a pattern for the plasticard pieces for the actual build. This should be real fun.

The Syko Ward
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 25, 2005 12:15 PM
Thanks Captain. I actually "gooped" the top half this morning. Had to work fast as the stuff was starting to dry out quick. Hopefully I can do the other side tomorrow.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:59 PM
SteveQ, I love that someone is doing the Kestral... Great job so far!

Ketr... way to go on the texturing of your 3D ship. May I ask what program you're using? I've done several of Masao's ships in 3ds Max, but never bothered posting them. I am impressed with your texturing, though. What program did you make the textures in?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by The Syko Ward

Hey there group....my name's Mark. If it's not to late I'd like to try and build the Avenger from the Starfleet Museum. It's a pretty cool looking ship and I think I might be able to pull it off. So if it's not too late, could ya guys count me in. Talk to you all later when I have something to show.

Hey StevenQ..That Arcadia looks really cool. You don't live in Arcadia CA by any chance do you?

The Syko Ward



Hey Mark, welcome. Yes Arcadia, CA. Your handle sounds familiar. Did I direct you to Paragon Plastics in El Monte while over at Starship Modeler? I could be wrong. Nice to see ya over here.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:22 PM
Hey, Ketr! Can you send me larger versions of those pics for posting in the museum?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:22 AM
Not at this time, (plastic model) but it's an interesting idea, I really like the design of the ship
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:20 AM
I worked for about a half-hour on my Polar Lights D-7 last night, and got most of the sub-assemblies constructed. I want to get them all built so I can start filling all the obvious gaps in the kit. I just cut off the snap together pegs because they usually make for a horrible fit, and glued the pieces together.

It's a cute little kit, but the fit is pretty awful, as one can generally expect from an injection molded Trek kit. I guess it's the unusual shapes. Maybe Tamiya will eventually do one! Smile [:)]
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Posted by Woody on Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:14 AM
Hello Mark, Welcome to the forum. I have added you to the build roster. Excellent choice in subjects, your a man of great taste in starship designs.Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:29 AM
Hey there group....my name's Mark. If it's not to late I'd like to try and build the Avenger from the Starfleet Museum. It's a pretty cool looking ship and I think I might be able to pull it off. So if it's not too late, could ya guys count me in. Talk to you all later when I have something to show.

Hey StevenQ..That Arcadia looks really cool. You don't live in Arcadia CA by any chance do you?

The Syko Ward
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Posted by maxx1969 on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:13 PM
Hi ketr, and welcome to the forum. Nice job on the 3D model. Do you have plans to build one up in plastic? That would be a cool subject for sure.

Matt
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:22 PM
Thanks, is one of my first 3d models, I will be working on another ship from the Museum very soon
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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:00 PM
Great pictures of the Amarillo class! Cool [8D]
Let me also welcome you to the forum.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:46 PM
Same ship, diferent angle
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:44 PM
Hi,
This is my first post, hope you like it
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Masao

StevenQ: Good start on that Kestrel!

Larry Dunn: Don't worry about trying to match the color scheme to my schematics.


I prefer your schematics! Laugh [(-D]

No way the Klingon ship colors was uniform throughout hundreds of years of history. They had to have been that color at one point! Anyway, this is the Museum build, so my model will resembe the museum display. Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:37 PM
Thanks guys. It took 8 layers on each side( top and bottom). Thanks for the tips Woody, I'll remember those, should be doing that this weekend. Need to do it when weather is good and it won't stop rainging here.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:39 PM
StevenQ: Good start on that Kestrel!

Larry Dunn: Don't worry about trying to match the color scheme to my schematics. If I were you I'd paint your D7 to resemble the actual studio model rather than my museum schematics. I didn't have such good references when I drew them, so I just made them overall untinted grey, but a bit darker than Enterprise.

Ketr: Welcome! Your pic's not showing up (at least for me).
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Posted by maxx1969 on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn

I picked up my $12.00 Klingon battlecruiser from Polar Lights today. I feel a bit silly building this crude snap-together kit when I consider all the scratchbuilds going in here, but I will press forward for the Empire!


Dont feel silly I have that kit and it was quite a bit of work to make it look good. Looking forward to seeing your progress.

Hey Steven nice start there. You look to have gotten the hull shape worked out nicely. How many layers did it take?

Matt
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:12 PM
I picked up my $12.00 Klingon battlecruiser from Polar Lights today. I feel a bit silly building this crude snap-together kit when I consider all the scratchbuilds going in here, but I will press forward for the Empire! I'm going to try to make it look as much like the ones on the Museum as I can.

Can anyone tell me the rationale for the very dark protrayal of the Klingon ships in the Museum? I'm not complaining -- I love the schemes, as opposed to the pallid grey of the ship on TOS -- but I'm just curious.

Also, the ships appear to have rust on them in the painting. I like that too -- like photos of a warship! -- but how is it possible for a ship to rust in space?

Thanks.
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