The Starfleet Museum group build

Looking good!
A couple points I'd like to pass on about the "goop" method.
1) Make sure the putty consistancy isn't too thick. No thicker than smooth peanut butter.
2) Allow at least 24 hours between layers.
3)Make sure the layers aren't too thick. I use small slivers of plastic or thick CA kicked with accelerator to fill in big voids.
4)After all the putty has been applied, place it in a warm spot to cure for at least 48 hours.

Here's a pic of progress of the Kestrel hull. I'll use Woody's styrene goop concoction to fill between the tiers. I'm on my way!

That would be helpful, thanks Masao. I actually started the basic hull shape of the Kestrel last night. Hopefully won't burn out before I finish.

That Torks looks likes it's coming along fine, Andrew.

If any of you guys need graphics, such as ship emblems for bases or insignia, please ask. I can output anything I've done at a larger resolution.

I like seeing the "How I Did It" in-progress shots too. Hrere's a link to the previously completed Conqueror, with shots from basic parts on:
http://groups.msn.com/ModelersAndHobbyForum/starfleetmuseumship.msnw
I usually just look for parts that are close to what I want, and start sticking them together. In a lot of ways a real toatal scratchbuild would be easier, but the found shapes can get you started quicker. Here's the parts breakdown for the Torsk:
Hull- a somewhat egg-shaped pencil sharpener from the dollar store, stretched about 1/4", a section of plastic tubing, and a wooden craft store egg.
Warp pods are a couple of small, brittle plastic pill vials, with panel light lenses at the front to round them off. I drilled a hole in the end of the lenses to make the hollow for the inner domes, which are parts of a dollar store top. Tapers at the end came from some toy lava light keychains, backed with Evergreen tubing. The end caps are the end of a helicopter rocket pod and more evergreen tubing. These would have definitely been easier to turn on a lathe, bt I was traveling when I made them and did not have the Unimat with me. ! Hope this helps,
Andrew

Yes... we need more of the "How you did it..." stuff. That helps the rest of us that are not as creative (i'm talking of myself...) to build these on our own if these wonderful ships never get kitted...

Looking good! Thanks for sharing the "how-you-did-it". That ready helps others in the build and those who pop in to have a look.

I have a slightly dark picture of my Torsk progress up at:
http://groups.msn.com/ModelersAndHobbyForum/starfleetmuseumrevisited.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=772
It's coming together fairly well. I moved the gun pylons back a little bit to allow for masking the dog-nose radome when it comes time to paint. Impulse vents are cut down from K&S aluminum airfoil tubing, the same method I used on a Conqueror I finished about a year ago.
Andrew

Great to have you onboard! I've added you to the roster.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Woody This GB is being done in the name of fun so I guess I don't mind if you build the K'tinga. It is a D-7 but a later version that is outside of the era of the museum. Do you want me to add you to the roster?

I don't wanna ruin the GB, so I'll build a straight D7, using the Polar Lights kit. I had ordered Chris's little K'Tinga resin kit (he has a few left), but I'd actually like to do a straight D7 in that menacing scheme from the museum site! Go ahead and add me. Thanks.

This GB is being done in the name of fun so I guess I don't mind if you build the K'tinga. It is a D-7 but a later version that is outside of the era of the museum. Do you want me to add you to the roster?

QUOTE: Originally posted by Woody Larry you are more than welcome to join. The only rule of this build is that you must pick a ship from Masao's site. A D-7 would be better choice because I don't believe there are any post-TOS vessels like the K'T'INGA on the site. I have really hoped somebody would pick a non-Federation design.

Hmmm ... is'nt a K'tinga a D-7? I thought it was. Uh oh, I already ordered it!

Larry you are more than welcome to join. The only rule of this build is that you must pick a ship from Masao's site. A D-7 would be better choice because I don't believe there are any post-TOS vessels like the K'T'INGA on the site. I have really hoped somebody would pick a non-Federation design.

Hi, I'd like to ask if I may be included in this build. Here's the vessel from the museum I'll be building:



I'll be building the K'Tinga variant of the class. Thanks!

Thanks guys but before I went to bed last night my wife informed me that she not only found but loaded the fonts in so I'm ready to go. Shes so cool

Looking forward to those pics Andrew.

Matt

Awesome, a Torsk! I wish all of these could be kitted...

Also, let me know what KIND of font you are looking for. I have them all, and I can email them to you as soon as Tuesday...

For a font, this comes by way of the Hobbytalk BBS:
http://home.earthlink.net/~casimiro/
And for progress, I'm grinding away at the my Torsk- the warp and gun pods are attached, and the impulse vents are cut out and waiting to be attached. Hopefully I'll be able to get some pictures up tomorrow. A rainy day at home got me looking at the abandoned Cabbage tokamak, and I might be able to stick something kind of like a Chowder together as an exercise in speed and utilization of clutter. Parts breakdown so far would be an acrylic wineglass, half a Pokemon ball, a concrete form snap-tie part, some plastic spoons, the wings from a 1/72 Harrier, and other assorted bits. It really would be easier to sratchbuild this one!
Andrew

I haven't had much time myself. I did run into a problem with the decals though. I seem to have lost my federation font file and the only other thing I have would require printing a full sheet of letters and numbers. Does any one know of a good down loadable Trek font file that will work with Windows?

Matt

How's everybody doing? I haven't had a lot of time to work on mine but I did manage to make the tiny bridge module.

Isn't the ProfK doing a Daedalus? Prof, what size did you estimate as the length of the Daedalus?

QUOTE: How did you decide that Daedalus should be 180 m?

Quite unscientifically... I copied a jpg of the Enterprise and one of the daedalus, then used photoshop to scale the enterprise down to where the windows looked the same size (but keeping in mind that I wanted to be able to see detail on the Daedalus, so the Daedalus' windows were slightly larger.). Then I measured the ratio of the lengths on the jpg image, compared the ratio to the PL kit, back to the size of the TOS Ent, and came up with a number between 160m and 190m. The spheres sold at plastruct dictated the final number. 1.75" was too small for me, 2" was too big, but I went with 2" anyways, putting the length at 178.Something meters. I rounded up to 180m...

Silly, I know...

Woody, I agree that Daedalus should probably be bigger than 105, and around 130 sounds good.

I think that the Daedalus is bigger than 105m, personally. My opinion is that it is about 134.75m long. I originally wanted to believe the ship is about 200m but I have come to believe it is in between the most often quoted length of 105m and my examination of window spacing and corresponding deck height that lead me to believe it was close to 200m. I wanted to believe that a deepspace vessel had ample deck height for crew moral and comfort but I've lately come to the conclusion that those were pioneer days and comfort wasn't part of the package so a deck height of about 3m is more likely. All IMHO.

Well, I designed Wasp before I started thinking much about Daedalus, so their relative sizes aren't so important. However, I think 180 is a bit big for Daedalus. Regardless, I wouldn't suggest you mess with the size of Wasp. it was intended to be a certain size, but not in relation to Daedalus. Of course, I'm sort of protective of my designs!

How did you decide that Daedalus should be 180 m?

I have a question to Masao and the rest of you:

The site shows an overall length of 104.5m for the Daedalus and 128.3 for the wasp.
I estimated and am constructing my daedalus to fit a measure of 180m for the overall length. (72% more)
Should I adjust the Wasp length to the same ratio, a smaller ratio, or none at all?

Opinions would be nice...

QUOTE: Originally posted by modelnut Have any of you thought about making kits of your scratchbuilds? I know the Professor is. But how about the others? There is a site on the Web that offers conversion kits etc for the Polar Lights 1000th scale TOS ENTERPRISE: http://www.starshipmodeler.com/store/store.cfm John and Linda won't mind a few more I am sure. Now I don't know the details of how you would do this. But it would offer a central "location" for spreading the joy! -Leelan

I'm actually thinking of doing that with my Baton Rouge class from the last build. I inquired about it on the forum but Linda told me to send John a direct email. I haven't gotten around to doing that but I did order some more RTV so I can give it a whirl on my own.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain_Mills maxx1969, That's an awesome Moskva Class. I'm impressed. Is it in 1:1000?

Thanks! And yes it is. I'm replacing the caps for the nacelles as I didn't like the way they looked. I made a small open pour mold and cast it in resin. The first one came out great and is already on.

Matt

Have any of you thought about making kits of your scratchbuilds?
I know the Professor is. But how about the others?

There is a site on the Web that offers conversion kits etc for the Polar Lights 1000th scale TOS ENTERPRISE: http://www.starshipmodeler.com/store/store.cfm
John and Linda won't mind a few more I am sure.

Now I don't know the details of how you would do this. But it would offer a central "location" for spreading the joy!

-Leelan

maxx1969,

That's an awesome Moskva Class. I'm impressed. Is it in 1:1000?

Matt and Lauren, Your work is outstanding! You guys are masters of the craft.

Thanks ProfKSergeev and Steven. How is your project coming along Steven?

Matt