New German Destroyer...price gouging?

GM still has em for 23 which is just around 31 bucks with shipping!

cost above all, eh?

a) If anyone wants a 1/350 KM destroyer, the Trumpy's actually available right now

b) By all accounts it appears to be a fine kit in it's own right

c) Yes, price *IS* a factor to many builders, especially when one is approx. double - get over it

d) Not everyone wants a huge part-count

e) Not everyone wants to go overboard with PE

Yes the Dragon will be more detailed, but thats rather like saying a Porsche is rubbish just because a Ferrari is better. And why pass judgement before anyone even knows what the fit is like.

Waving the Dragon flag again I see, you carry on as if it's got the detail of Hobby Boss' Pola

Tracy White

cost above all, eh?

Sometimes it is Tracy as a necessity. I have tons of respect for you cause you seem to be very knowledgeable about ships, way more than I will ever be probably. But I think the above comment is why folks have jumped on you and labeled you a Dragon fanboy.

Stik just commented that his lhs had them for a tad under 40 and I told him he could get it cheaper on GM. There was no intent to bash Dragon with what was said. I really dont care what you say, the Trumpeter kit looks to be a very very nice kit. IMO the level of detail is superb and Im sure this kit will sell very well.

Well, it is great that we have a choice. Too often we have only a single kit of a ship subject,,,, if we are lucky. One can go high end and wait for the Dragon kit. Or one can get the mid range (IMO any kit with PE is more than basic) Trumpeter kit now which is available now. Cost above all? Not necessarily. I prefer to spend a bit more at a LHS to help  contribute to and ensure  their survival rather than go to an online source. While online hobby shopping is nice, nothing beats being in a shop and the banter and exchange of ideas that goes on in there. Sort of like a local bar.

stikpusher

Well, it is great that we have a choice. Too often we have only a single kit of a ship subject,,,, if we are lucky. One can go high end and wait for the Dragon kit. Or one can get the mid range (IMO any kit with PE is more than basic) Trumpeter kit now which is available now. Cost above all? Not necessarily. I prefer to spend a bit more at a LHS to help  contribute to and ensure  their survival rather than go to an online source. While online hobby shopping is nice, nothing beats being in a shop and the banter and exchange of ideas that goes on in there. Sort of like a local bar.

 

Having said that, I get practically ALL of my armor from Dragon and I don't see that changing in the near future...also am begining to give them some of my a/c kit business as well since they began releasing new 110's in quarter-scale and re-boxing some of their classic kits at good prices...

One of Trumpeter's weaknesses is consistancy, IMO. They will release a great kit, like the Z Destroyer, and then their next kit will fall back down to mediocre.  Maybe it is because they have different "teams" working on different projects and they all don't get pulled through the same final development program??? Anyway, I feel their new Destroyer is a really nice kit and I'm glad I got one...is it perfect? No. But neither are any of Dragon's kits...

PS: I love the Tirpitz...

THE SAD FATE OF MANNY'S TRUE LOVE

Say it isn't so!

GETS EVEN WORSE...LARGE FOWL SMELLING MEN ARE CUTTING HER OPEN AND REMOVING HER INSIDE BITS

Kormoran

c) Yes, price *IS* a factor to many builders, especially when one is approx. double - get over it

Which brings me back to why I started in on this thread; you can't say that the price is double because it's not a level playing field. Wait a while for both kits to have been on the market before you start slinging comparisons like that around. Keep in mind that MSRP for both kits is the same.

I've never said that cost or space should not be a factor.

ps1scw

 

Wouldn't that make some kinda' "Walk Around"?

Manstein's revenge

 

ps1scw:

 

 

 

 

Manny!!! Did someone tip your canoe??

Marching backward

Sunk Hood

Sunk Bismarck

Sunk Scharnhorst

Sunk Kirishima

Sunk Yamishiro

Sunk Tirpitz

Eric

I love the Tirpitz...

Jeez man, this guy had to chop off the bow of his Scharny kit because it wasn't right.

Should we really have to do this to a kit costing $100+?

I thought Dragon were supposed to be the best, given the bulling up they've had in all the reviews.

Looks like they had to do it to the real ship, too.

Tirpitz...

Wow, you actually created a new account to post this so you wouldn't have to use your real name. Lame, really lame.

The Accuracy Police

Jeez man, this guy had to chop off the bow of his Scharny kit because it wasn't right.

Should we really have to do this to a kit costing $100+?

I thought Dragon were supposed to be the best, given the bulling up they've had in all the reviews.

I agree, I think that a kit that has been called the best ship kit ever should have been a lot better that this.  Being objective, I don't think it is even the best Dragon kit. 

ModelWarships

Wow, you actually created a new account to post this so you wouldn't have to use your real name. Lame, really lame.

And you are referring to whose post?

Who's on third?

keilau

And you are referring to whose post?

The Accuracy Police. His account was created just to get nasty without using his real name. His other post was removed by the moderator or himself. I have no respect for people who hide behind fake names.

"Who's on third?"

Tripitz.

No, Who's on first, I dont know is on third...

"accuracy police" isn't me just in case anyone thinks so, wonder who it is?

Who is it? Well it shouldn't be too hard to figure it out, even without the powers of admin or moderator. Just take a look at when they joined and what posts they have contributed to. Of course you can also look at their history on other forums and compare their writing styles. Look for clues like strange behavior such as removing ones own posts in mass, and see if there are similarities in the posting and online behavior. Frankly I don't really care who it is, just surprised that they really think they are fooling anyone but  themselves.

With any great online community there is always some that have nothing to contribute, but negativity.

Just noticed Great Models sale price is now $37 (and RRP jumped to $50).

The old $23 tag was obviously an error - I wonder if they accidently listed the wholesale price?

Tracy: If two comparable kits were around the same price I'd definately choose Dragon, their detail rocks. It seems in USA land they keep prices competitive but here (like in the UK) Dragon prices are really fat.

I hope nobody complained because I called Adm Tirpitz a moron in print. (He was.)

History making thread. Got nasty - first time I've ever seen that here. Folks are talking models not the 2d Amendment. And we are definitely living the last generation that would understand reference to "who's on first?"

As for Dragon and Trumpie - they're both putting out models. As is Eduard. I wish they were all made by Hasegawa, but Hasegawa rarely puts out models and Tam-Rex isn't much better. When you get down to it, putting out kits for sale has to rank very high when judging a company.

Eric

Who really cares enough to do detective work (comparing writing styles!?)

There's a well-known Dragon-basher here (warshipbuilder) but why he'd want to write incognito is beyond me because he's already openly hostile with regards to Dragon.

There's always going to kit/brand knockers, even $1000 kits are going to have an inaccuracy.

BTW can someone explain this "first/third" buisness?