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Converting the 1/96 Cutty Sark into the Glory of the Seas

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    December 2012
Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:44 PM

Not to brag...but I plan on building many more large scale clippers before I reach 102~108(If God terries).......I finished my CS in less then 3 months...and since the Glory is nearly all scratch built..it will be a month or two longer in its build.  Still...before I reach 52(Hopefully).

Good luck and pleasing builds.

Rob

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    December 2012
Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:40 PM

Mike...I'm impressed with your work..and at 70...you're doing magnificent.

Yes...a lot of pre-thought has to go into the rigging...and I still sit back and say sometimes, *oh man..I forgot......* That(form me anyway) is because I am planning so many things at the same time..because I built quite fast and with that, oversight happens.

Rigging the Glory will be very similar to the CS..with several notes:  The Glory did not have backstay spreaders during the time period I am building her......and no studding sail booms either.  So with the lack of these items the rigging will be modified.

Thanks for your fine comments...and continued good luck with your build...just let me know if you have any questions.

Rob

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:00 PM

That is a pretty CS Mike. I expecially like the hull. BTW, I am on a long term CS build. If I finish it; I will be about 108.

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

  • Member since
    December 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:22 PM

Rob,

As usual, an inspiring build.

Next time I see my doctor I'm going to ask that he keep me alive and healthy until I'm 108. I calculate that's how long it'll be (I'm 70 now) until: 1) I finish my stash of ships and airplanes Big Smile, and, 2) I aquire enough modeling skills to feel as though I've made some models of which I can be proud.

I love seeing the pictures you post because they help me a LOT in my build - even though sometimes they show me things that I should have done which I've omitted by following the Revell instructions. At those times I could kick myself for not noticing what you've done and how I could have made my model better. An example is that I've finished my standing rigging on my CS but when I looked at your pictures again (and then noticed the Campbell plans I have on my wall Embarrassed) I'd forgotten to include the futtock shrouds. My next CS WILL have them!

I've put my CS on top of my bedroom chest of drawers for the time being so that I can work on the Dragon 1/350 USS Buchanan. I'll get back to her when I'm done with the destroyer. Here's the way she sits as of this moment: http://michaels.0catch.com/_6260007.jpg

I do have questions on my upcoming build which I'm going to post in another thread.

Mike

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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    December 2012
Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:21 PM

Thanks Marc.   I finished up adding the top gallant shrouds and am half way with the ratlines on the starboard side.  I'll be taking a several days break cuz I'm involved in my nieces wedding plans and ceremony.

Rob(pics then)

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  • From: France
Posted by phoscar on Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:23 AM

Hello,

Magnifique work.

Marc

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    December 2012
Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:16 PM

Luv this ship.   Finish up the top shrouds...strays......then onto the ratlines...a whole lotta ratlines.

Then the backstays.  Once all this standing rigging is finished.....I'll begin to think about the yards and their rigging.  I think, I will rig this ship with short sails, depicting a gale rig..with all topsails set......jib and possibly the spanker.  It is an awesome rig.......not full rig...not in port..but running the wind.

I built a CS with this sail configuration 20 years ago and it was nice...lots of detail(not to much) and plenty of drama.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:08 PM

Closeup of top shrouds......now I will work on the top gallant shrouds, should go quickly......I think

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:05 PM

Need to add the last stays at the tops too.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:03 PM

Finished the top shrouds.......

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM

I luv the bow of this ship...I luv it black......

Rob

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:06 PM

a bit closer view......tomorrow I'll finish the port side.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:04 PM

Starboard top shrouds done

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:01 PM

Beginning the mizzen top shrouds

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:59 PM

All three masts

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:58 PM

Pics of finished foremast shrouds

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, June 17, 2013 4:37 PM

I finished the foremast main shrouds...so now onto the mizzen top shrouds and working forward........

I'll probably finish them all before I begin the ratlines on any of the shrouds.  I'll need to add some of the mainmast stays too as I go along.

Fun fun fun.....

Rob

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    December 2012
Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, June 17, 2013 1:56 PM

I guess..I didn't mean you actually gave a review of their service and product..but more of a review of what you thought of their site and product listings.

However...in my view... they do respond quickly with parts and comment responses.

Rob

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, June 17, 2013 10:58 AM

Geez, I didn't think of that post as a "review."  I haven't done business with CYA; frankly I'd never heard of it until rwiederrich mentioned it.  One big factor in evaluating any mail order firm has to be the quality of service it gives, and I obviously can't comment on CYA in that context.  I've generally gotten pretty good service from Model Expo - especially in recent years.  On one occasion, though, I sent an e-mail asking for some parts that were missing from a Model Shipways kit - and never got an answer.

Come to think of it, maybe we ought to come up with a better acronym than "CYA."  Around the joint where I work, at least, it means "cover your Censored" - as in "CYA memo."  Nasty to talk that way about what looks like a perfectly reputable ship model supply house.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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    December 2012
Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, June 17, 2013 8:18 AM

Thanks jtilley for reviewing CYA..... I too, thought a lot of its advertising was similar to Model expo...however, I failed to(Probably because I'm clueless), make any comparisons.  I 'm just looking for what I need.  Model expo is a fine supplier, so is BlueJacket.

Again..thanks for the write up.

Rob

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:21 AM

I took a look at the Cast Your Anchor Hobby website.  The company certainly carries a big range of merchandise.  I'm unaware of another convenient place to look for such variety of products and manufacturers.

The list of fittings, on the other hand, appears to come almost directly out of the ModelExpo website.  I saw a handful of fittings that didn't look familiar (notably some miniature figures, which frankly looked pretty crude for the price), but the vast majority of the photos seemed to be the same ones I've been seeing for years at www.modelexpo-online.com .  Those with less-than-deep pockets should know that ModelExpo almost always has something on sale - frequently (albeit not always) including fittings. Those sale prices are considerably cheaper than those advertised by Cast Your Anchor. And ME sells some of its fittings in bulk, at big discounts.  For example, 10 feet of 42-link chain at ME costs less than half what 10 individual, 1-foot lengths cost at CYA (or, for that matter, ME).

One very interesting group of fittings I did see at CYA is a line of tiny miniature turnbuckles.  I haven't seen the smallest sizes elsewhere.  I'm thinking the very smallest just might work for 1/32-scale WWI aircraft.  (I've got a Wingnut Wings kit waiting for me....)

The pages devoted to tools and books also seem to be identical to their ModeExpo equivalents.  The one dealing with wood really puzzled me.  Some of the pictures from Cast Your Anchor are the same ones Model Expo uses.  But it's hard to see how a ship model supplier in this day and age can stock balsa and not basswood.

For what little it's worth, my personal favorite blocks and deadeyes are the cast Britannia metal ones from Bluejacket.  Cast Your Anchor Hobby sells Bluejacket's kits, but apparently not its fittings.

I was particularly interested in Cast Your Anchor's ratings of kit manufacturers.  These appear to be honest efforts to let modelers know about the huge variations in quality among those companies - including the various HECEPOB ones (Mamoli, Artesania Latina, Corel, et. al.).  (For the uninitiated, HECEPOB is the acronym we've developed over the years in this Forum for Hideously Expensive Continental European Plank-On-Bulkhead.  I won't allow a HECEPOB kit in my house; neither will hundreds of other serious scale modelers.)  There's also some interesting information on that page about the histories of the various companies.  All in all, a commendable and refreshingly candid effort.  I have to say, however, that I seriously question the knowledgeability of anybody who gives Model Shipways and Bluejacket lower marks for "accuracy" and "detail" than Artesania, Mamoli, Corel, etc.  Every manufacturer's products vary as the company ages, but I personally would put those two American companies way ahead of any of the HECEPOBs.  Model Shipways and Bluejacket kits are designed to replicate actual ships.  The HECEPOBs are designed to...well, I've never been able to figure out quite what they're supposed to do, other than take money from the uninitiated.

One manufacturer who's conspicuously absent from the Cast Your Anchor list:  the British firm Caldercraft (aka Jotika).  That company's plank-on- bulkhead kits are honest-to-goodness scale models, designed by people who actually know their subject matter.  I just wish I could afford one of them.  (The Jotika 1/72 H.M.S. Victory costs well over $1,000.)  I can hardly blame any American hobby dealer ship for not stocking Calder/Jotika kits; the market in this country must be tiny.  But they're some of the best kits in the business.

I've ordered Cast Your Anchor's printed catalog, and I look forward to reading it.  I'll be interested to see how much it differs from Model Expo's.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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    December 2012
Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:22 PM

Right.....

The channels are made from milled cherry to scale and the chain plates/cable is made from copper wire fixed to the deadeyes.  I first installed the channels..then drilled the holes for the cable in accordance to the location of the shrouds.  Then I cut, bent and installed the wire.  Then cut them off with about 1/16" extending past the top plate.  Then I drilled and then wrapped the deadeyes in wire and glues them onto the extended wires.

Typically...you would wrap the deadeye..then run the wire down and through the channels.  However the fixed part that bends back toward the hull can be problematic....so.....

I went from the ground up(shall we say)..instead of top down.  Painted it does the job nicely.

These external fixtures where heavely tared to protect them from the weather anyway.

Thanks for asking.

Rob(The deadeyes are from  castyouranchorhobby.com)

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    March 2012
  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:01 PM

Hey Rob-

You might have already covered this, but what are you using for the chainplates and deadeyes?

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Current Project:  Imai/ERTL Spanish Galleon #2

Recently Finished: Revell 1/96 Cutty Sark

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:57 PM

Coming along nicely.  I hope to sneak some time in tomorrow to finish up the foremast.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:10 PM

Another view...now I am onto the formast shrouds.......Probably bee done with them tomorrow..then I can get to the top shrouds.

Rob

Robby Rich's photo.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:09 PM

Closeup...

Robby Rich's photo.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:08 PM

Today I snuck in some hours and rigged the main mast shrouds.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:40 PM

The tops

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:39 PM

Another view

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:37 PM

Little closer

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