By the deep 17 ...

I guess I don't understand what I'm looking at here. The gunports in the lower of the two rows seem to be plugged, as though there are going to be "dummy" stub barrels plugging the little round holes. Every example of that kit I've seen has fully opened gunports, with complete, multi-part guns and carriages. What happened?

Looks like it's not part of the kit's original hull, but a resin cast. I think the holes are there to help re-cut the ports later. Daniel, what's the purpose of this experiment? Does the inside of the gun deck walls actually look like that in the real ship?

Now that I've taken a more careful look, I'm sure rdiaz is right. The upper gunports are plugged in the first picture and opened in the others.

Maybe I'm just dim-witted, but I don't understand the purpose of the experiment either. But it certainly looks like the modeler knows what he's doing.

Sorry I did not want to confuse you too much, but yes, it is a small cutout from the hull area of the fore chains.

I'm assuming the original side is NOT a 1/4" thick as is the test casting..the aim(It appears), is to sand off the plug backings, then add port trim so you can actually add guns in their carriages.....instead of the plug gun tips.

Rob

But it's really confusing because the Heller kit does not have filled gun ports.

Daniel, I think you are maybe making a diorama using the Heller side as a model for a smaller section? And you drilled those holes to remove the over casting.

Appears not to be meant to be seen from the inside.

 Neeto little belt sander! Don't breath the dust!

Interesting...

And Roberto, I will stoll add some pictures how a ship looked inside on another place here, just gimme time :-)

Cheers, Daniel

Dan,

It is great to see you here and welcome to FSM. As usual, I love and I am amazed with your techniques. I'm pulling up a chair because I always learn some great techniques from you.

I have known Daniel for a number of years through various other modeling sites such as the German site Wettringermodelbauforum.com and Modelshipworld.com. Personally, I think everyone should check out his Heller 1/100 HMS Victory thread on Modelshipworld. It is absolutely amazing how he worked and reworked this model to fit his vision. Here is the link:

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/

Also, anyone interested in REALLY going the extra 100 miles on their Victory model, like it isn't a project in itself, Daniel created a number of photoetched sets for his Victory and is now selling the sets here at his site and you owe it to yourself to check out these beauties.

http://www.dafinismus.de/index_en.html

No, I do not work for Daniel but as I have said, I have admired his work for years and would like to consider him a friend. And as always Dan, your English is so much better than my German! 

Lookng forward to to your next installment,

Steve

Thank you for all the comments, very welcome!

And Steve, thank you tons for those accolades, I hope I can stand up to the expectations with my tinkering :-)

For me model making never is a straight forward process, in the german forums I was one of the first to break the iron rule: It is glued - it stays!

And so we come to the typical dafinistic approach in model making: Destruction!!!

Hello Dan !

Welcome here , and don't worry , Your English is okay .At least you won't have to cringe listening to my German .I like your idea and have done such stuff in the past as gifts for folks who don't have room for the whole ship ! Keep us in the loop , okay ?   Tanker - Builder

Thank you tank builder!

XXXDAn

PS: And Hourrrrrray, I am allowed to post straight and therefor reply faster and I can edit some of my writing mistakes :-) :-) :-)

daniel , your modeling ability far out strips most of us in this forum , but gee I'm glad your here , I've followed your victory build for at least 2 and a half year's , and I never want it to end , welcome aboard

steve5

That is very, very nice. Never heard of those casein based paints. Being Pelikan I don't think they will be hard to find around here. Oil takes ages to dry!

However, since a lot of touching up with wet brushes is required, I'm not sure this will work if acrylics are used as a base. Did you use enamel as your base color?

Hello Roberto,

yes this was the enamel, but I think the aquacolor would do the job too as they are NOT water solulable once dry.

The Pelikan paint is this one https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_13?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=pelikan+plaka+paint&sprefix=pelikan+plaka+paint%2Caps%2C272

Cheers, Daniel

Daniel,

I just want to let you know how impressed I am with the Victory you're building on Model Ship World. Your stamina, determination, and skill are truly remarkable.

I've only been within about 45 miles of where you live - back in 2007, but I was taken with how beautiful many of the places in Germany are.

Mike

Thank you Mike for the kind words,

just for clarification: Was the trap the house or the eyes ? ;-)

XXXDAn

Daniel,

The eyes, the hair, the smile, etc., etc.

Mike

April 25th: Looks like Photobucket unlinked my pictures from my previous post so I'll let that go. I've edited it and deleted references to and the pictures of Heidelberg, The Black Forest tourist trap, and the pretty sales girl. Mike

Hello Daniel :

   You did know of course ,many of us used the very product you mention , as , our first thinner and brush cleaner . Zippo lighter fluid is good old Naptha .Used it for years .Still do on occasion . It worked great in Testors paints  and still does !

     The H.M.S. Surprise in San Diego shows what I've said for years  .Salt Air , Water and wave action washes out any color and does so with a vengeance ! Ship-modelers need to take this to heart when weathering the model .  Tanker - Builder         P.S. So there's no confusion - I Specialize in Oil , Gas , LNG and other tank ship models Plus I was employed as Captain for some years on the type . , Hence the handle or nick-name

Hi Daniel and welcome to FSM,

I also have been watching your progress and techniques over at MSW.

Scott

Awesome weathering Daniel. I'm assuming you used washes for the yellow parts and dry brushing for the black on the bee line version?

Daniel..fantastic weathering.  I always prefer a vessel weathered to represent the actual vessels appearance...NOT out of the box look.  The sea is a brutal element to wood and iron...and it too must be represented in the final analysis...if true accuracy is to be closely achieved.  You've done well.

Rob

Thank you both Robs :-)

I think there are plenty of technics combined. Faint wash, different shadings, chipping and  marks are done by brush.

And I think something like a "new" ship never really existed. As the building took months or even years, the ships were already waethered when going out for the first time. I saw this in a small shipyard in Brittany, one was able to always see, where work was done. Fresh marks of light brown wooden chips in silver aged enviroment :-)

XXXDAn

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