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Posted by cerberusjf on Friday, August 25, 2017 2:16 PM

Yes, they are to protect the hull and channels from the flukes of the anchor:-

 

from http://www.all-model.com/pages/Neophyte7.html

 

Yes the Professor is sadly missed, his posts were always very informative and interesting.  He is a real loss to the forum.  We are fortunate to have experts like dafi around. But still..

 

Best wishes,

John

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  • From: Ludwigsburg Germany
Posted by dafi on Friday, August 25, 2017 9:45 AM
It is to protect bow and channels from the anchors :-) It was a standard feature of almost all english ships of most sizes at that time. Cheers, Daniel
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Posted by Michael D. on Friday, August 25, 2017 8:07 AM

That makes sense since the channels and chains were much lower then. May God bless the Prof soul.

 

Michael D

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, August 25, 2017 12:36 AM

it might have been a guard , to protect the chain's , michael .?

I really miss the prof.Sad  , he was such , an incredible , fountain of knowledge , as well as being such a humble man .

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:18 PM

I think it had something to do with the anchor, but not exactly sure what?

 

Michael D.

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, August 24, 2017 4:40 PM

I need someone to tell me what this particular piece does . I just know it is on there .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:29 PM

thank's mike for that , found it very interesting reading . only read page 25 , will get a nice glass of vino tonight and read the rest , cheer's mate .

steve

 

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    December 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:01 PM

Steve,

According to this:

http://www.academia.edu/358814/The_Introduction_and_Use_of_Copper_Sheathing_-_A_History

the Victory was first sheathed with copper in 1780.

See page 25 just below the middle of the page with the large paragraph.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:24 PM

thank's ejhammer , michael ,- now I have a couple of option's .

I would like to pester the brotherhood a bit more , 1765 , would have been too early for brass plate's on the hull , right ?

steve5

 

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    May 2008
  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:38 AM

I use "Birchwood Casey" brand brass black. Works on brass and solder, sometimes even on stainless wire to make it look aged, as well as copper and bronze. They also have one for blackening aluminum. I got mine at a gun dealer store.

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by Michael D. on Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:22 AM

 Yes Steve, there were 2 six pounders. I've never used any blackening agent just a black sharpie and a light touch up as needed with black paint.

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 21, 2017 10:03 PM

I did not know that michael , did they have anything in their place ?

steve5

 

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 21, 2017 9:59 PM

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Posted by Michael D. on Monday, August 21, 2017 9:57 PM

Steve I see you're going for a later date using those carronades? 1780 I believe they were in use.

 

Michael D

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 21, 2017 9:51 PM

could anyone please give me a brand name , for a PE blackening agent please ,I have one that is made by master , but the slightest touch and it flake's off , thank's in advance .

steve5

 

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    July 2013
Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 21, 2017 6:43 PM

 I thought the carronade's , should have some sort of wheel's under it , so it could slide side to side , so I cut an old connon I had from my soleil royal , and glued them on . I think they came out OK .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 21, 2017 6:02 AM

thank's dafi , I still have a lot to learn about marine lingo Tongue Tied

 

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  • From: Ludwigsburg Germany
Posted by dafi on Monday, August 21, 2017 5:09 AM
The gunport hinges of the lower deck have the hinge for the small ventilation scuttle in the middle of the gunport. These scuttles were only introduced later on, so the hinges are obsolete and have to be cut off.  See 268 + 279. Should be like 317 XXXDAn
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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 21, 2017 3:33 AM

I'm sorry dafi could you elaborate please , not sure what you mean ??

 

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  • From: Ludwigsburg Germany
Posted by dafi on Monday, August 21, 2017 1:50 AM

Wonderful!!!

XXXDAn

 

Already one remark for later on: The small scuttles on the lower gun port lids have to be cut off, they were introduced only much later on.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:31 PM

Hey Steve, I love it. You are really banging away this.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:17 PM

  this is where I am up to guy's

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:27 PM

Looking good Steve, I removed a 1/2" of the deck aft the fore mast. I have a measurement of 11mm from the fore leading of the grate to the center line of the fore mast opening, hope that helps.

 

Michael D.

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, August 19, 2017 11:29 PM

 had a go michael , turned it around , added some styrene under it to lift it up a shade . just got to work out how far to cut the deck back .

 

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    July 2006
Posted by Michael D. on Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:18 AM

Steve I did switch them around based on what I saw on the McNary model along with painting the channels black and if I remember correctly had I left them i would be cutting some of the grate anyway shortening the deck. My goal is to preserve as much as the plastic as possible using very little wood as possible,IE: Lateen yard, deadeyes and Qtr deck grates.

 

Keep up the good work Mate!

 

Michael D.

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    July 2013
Posted by steve5 on Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:54 AM

thank's daniel , I was looking at michael's and wondering , when you sent the pic through ,I also wanted to ask michael , is the grate's on the forecastle deck , around the wrong way ? , you seem to have changed them !!

steve

 

  • Member since
    April 2016
  • From: Ludwigsburg Germany
Posted by dafi on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:21 AM

For the chains, to be correct, it should have 3 links instead of two as in 1803.

But I do not believe that someone will realise apart from "chain-link-counters" like us ;-)

Great work!

Daniel

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:03 PM

Hey Steve, nice work sir. Cool project too. You have a lot of patience with all those canons too!

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 14, 2017 11:01 PM

 started mucking about with the , repositioning , of the channel's , filled in the heller holes for the lower dead eye's , and I will redrill them ,

 

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    July 2013
Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 14, 2017 5:52 PM

michael D

thank's for that , I just went back over what dafi sent me , what I took as back stay's were in fact 2 extra shroud's , sorry about that . 

steve5

 

 

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