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  • From: Akron ohio
Posted by phoenix7187 on Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:26 AM

Frank, it would seem me and you have similar tast in 109's. Yellow 2 is also a jet defender for KgJ 6. I have that decal sheet as well. This one caught my eye is white 7 a K-4. I think this 109 had RLM 82 on the fuselage and RLM 83 on the wings. With the odd camo, red spinner and KGJ's red and black RV band I thought this would make a great looking model. I found white 7 decals and the correct national marking. I can paint the band and spinner. If you decide to do yellow 2 I may push white 7 up and do this one first.  

Stan
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Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, November 23, 2008 4:01 PM

Frank, can you put me down as a starter?

Not sure what I'll go with, obviously a 109Black Eye [B)], but seeing as I have decals in the stash for both K-4s and G-10s, I'll probably go with a G6!Smile [:)]

My next build is a Messerschmitt, just the 109's big brother the 110.

Karl

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, November 23, 2008 4:11 PM

Stan- Was Yellow 2 the bird you were going to do?  I was just looking at adding another sheet or two of Eagle Ed's decals to my stash. Wink [;)]  I'll go ahead and order them and take a look at them when they arrive.  If you wanted to build Yellow 2, please by all means do so!

Karl- You got it!  I added you to page one, just let me know which one you decide on and I'll add it next to your name. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by phoenix7187 on Sunday, November 23, 2008 4:52 PM

No way frank, I have no plans in the near future to do yellow 2, I got those decals a while back and now can't remember why. I have had plans all year to do white 7, just haven't gotten off by butt to get things gathered up. I figure if you were going to do a KGJ 109 and I would build one along side you. Of all the 109 choices what are the chances of two people in the same GB pick 109 from the same unit nad time frame? maybe I should play the lottery.

If I remember correctly KGJ 6 operated a mixed bag of G-10's and K-4's to protect there me 262's. when I did research on white 7 I found info on yellow 2 (I think this is when I got the decals). Even if I was doing yellow 2 why would it to stop you? Both graf's G-6 and and this K-4 have been on my shrot list for too long, may as well get them done.

Sorry didn't mean to sound that way. I think It's a great idea!  

Stan
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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:01 PM

Stan,

Sorry, my bad!  I mis-read your post. Banged Head [banghead]  Now I see that you were pointing out that we were building aircraft from the same unit.  I'll stick with Yellow 2 and look forward to seeing White 7 from you!

I would be very interested in anything you turn up on Yellow 2.  Funny you mention KGJ 6, I was just putting another sheet of Eagle Cals decals in my shopping cart for Black < of KGJ 6! Big Smile [:D]

As for the lottery, maybe we should both play!

PM inbound! Wink [;)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:36 PM
OK I'm down to two choices for my G-6 9/JG54, Ludwigslust, Feb 44 Yellow 1 Bar flown by Oblt Schilling   or  II/JG51 Bulgaria, June 44 White -7 Ofw Kuhlein.

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:04 PM

John-

If I may, I would go for White 7 II/JG51.  Those are some of my favorite G-6 markings.  Speaking of those, I have the Hasegawa 1/32 kit with those markings.  I also have the Eagle Cals set of the same aircraft.  Hasegawa has the brown eyes, Eagle Cals has blue eyes.  Think it would be safe to assume that Eagle got it right?

Frank 

 

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Posted by phoenix7187 on Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:24 PM
Very well documented G-6. I really like the marking and camo of white 7 as well. Some day I plan on doing my 1/24 trumpeter early G-6 in those marking. As far as the eye goes, it looks blue to me but it is hard to tell. The trumpy kit come with both.
Stan
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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, November 24, 2008 6:21 AM

Hi all,

I decided to excavate my stash today, which meant climbing up a mound of cartons and getting into one at the back, near the ceiling. I was able to pull out the Hasegawa 1:48 Karl and she looks a sweet build! (Also located two other kits in the carton that weren't properly listed, and logged them in -- now I know where that missing Tamiya E-3 is!)

I'll need to do some research. Kit markings include Yellow 4 (Strebel, II/JG 3, March '45) and Yellow 1 (II/JG 27, no date given). I'll do a websearch for available decals and see what good-looking schemes are to be had.

I'm a tad confused about the detail painting. Hasegawa use Gunze paint codes and RLMs for different items on the list. The cockpit is mostly painted Gunze 339, for which a FS equivalent is given, 16081 'Engine Gray.' Does anyone have any idea what RLM they might be refering to? It's not Schwartzgrau, that's on the list elsewhere for different items.

I have to excavate again tomorrow, there's a carton missing and three possible subjects for the 1000 Roadwheels GB are in it!

Cheers,

Mike/TB379

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, November 24, 2008 6:55 AM

Mike-

I updated page 1 for you!  As far as the cockpit goes, I would have painted it RLM 66.  Is the engine gray pretty close to 66?

Frank 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, November 24, 2008 7:39 AM

Hi Frank --

Thanks! Yes, the 'Engine Gray' certainly sounds close -- go with 66? Easily done, especially as I still need to pick up 66 for the Go 229 that's been waiting to get off the apron the last few weeks.

I'm looking forward to building the K-4! I need some stuff from Squadron, canopy masks and such, some warload for my Corsair, so I'll see if I can tag on masks for the Karl, possibly TD wheels, and see what decals are on offer too.

Cheers,

Mike

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Posted by phoenix7187 on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:24 AM

Thunderbolt that is one of the few I used the kit marking for Yellow 4 (Strebel, II/JG 3. The decals go down pretty good. yellow 4 is one of the few K-4 that still had all of the gear doors operating and was painted according to RLM specs for a K-4. Other than the radio antenna being futher back it's a great example of what a K-4 should have been like. It actully looks pretty impressive despite the lack of molt and typical camo colors.

 

Stan
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Posted by luftwaffle on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:47 AM

Looks like we've generated a lot of interest for this GB, should be excellent, however....

Frank, "May the fleas of a 1000 camels infest your armpits".

I promised myself I was not going to do any more fighters after the two Doras on the bench were finished until I got some twin engine stuff done, so much for that plan.  You're an evil man, sir. Laugh [(-D]

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, November 24, 2008 12:25 PM
 luftwaffle wrote:

Frank, "May the fleas of a 1000 camels infest your armpits".

I promised myself I was not going to do any more fighters after the two Doras on the bench were finished until I got some twin engine stuff done, so much for that plan.  You're an evil man, sir. Laugh [(-D]

Stan told me to do it!!!  It's not my fault!

Stan- Nice looking Karl there.  Looks like the Morane mast is on backwards though.

Frank 

 

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Posted by espins1 on Monday, November 24, 2008 1:46 PM
Sweet!  Just noticed the build, there is no way I can pass on this one.  Put me down for a Hasegawa 1/32 Bf-109 G-6 flown by Gunther Rall.  Cool [8D]  Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, November 24, 2008 1:50 PM

Heres the Eagle cal decal sheet for my 109. Im going for the red scalloped nosed bird of Herman Graff.

...Guy

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, November 24, 2008 1:59 PM

Scott- Welcome aboard!  I added your build to page 1. Thumbs Up [tup]

Guy- Excellent choice mate!  I expect you'll have yours in the paint shop by the end of the weekend. Tongue [:P]

Frank 

 

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Posted by phoenix7187 on Monday, November 24, 2008 2:11 PM
 Daywalker wrote:
 luftwaffle wrote:

Frank, "May the fleas of a 1000 camels infest your armpits".

I promised myself I was not going to do any more fighters after the two Doras on the bench were finished until I got some twin engine stuff done, so much for that plan.  You're an evil man, sir. Laugh [(-D]

Stan told me to do it!!!  It's not my fault!

Stan- Nice looking Karl there.  Looks like the Morane mast is on backwards though.

Mike, I have no idea what he's talking about? Dunce [D)]Evil [}:)] Would do something like that. Wink [;)]

 HA hhaaaaaaaaaa and you be right! Franks got the eagle eye out now. I created a monster. Funny how so many others did not catch that. good find frank.

Stan
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Posted by JMart on Monday, November 24, 2008 6:27 PM
 Daywalker wrote:

I agree with you SC, some serious talent signed up here.  I really can't wait to see the models turned out here. Approve [^]

Im glad I snuck in then! ;)  Glad a few G-10s in the roster I will learn a lot from the masters for sure..cheers

 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Monday, November 24, 2008 10:36 PM
 Daywalker wrote:

John-

If I may, I would go for White 7 II/JG51.  Those are some of my favorite G-6 markings.  Speaking of those, I have the Hasegawa 1/32 kit with those markings.  I also have the Eagle Cals set of the same aircraft.  Hasegawa has the brown eyes, Eagle Cals has blue eyes.  Think it would be safe to assume that Eagle got it right?

Your wish is my command.  I am using the Ministry of Small Aircraft decals and the eyes are a reddish brown or brownish red.

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:45 AM

Stan -- what a FANTASTIC piece of work! If that's Hasegawa'a K-4 more or less out of the box, I'll be more than delighted. I'll be preening if I can get mine into the ballpark with yours!

That said, I ordered up some stuff today, Express Masks for her and a sheet of K-4s from Eagle Strike on special at Squadron for comparison. I think I'll end up with more than one of these birds. Heck, I got a mixed sheet of Emils and Gustavs too. And threw in some post-war Spits for the hell of it...

Well, all I need is some Schwartzgrau and I can get to work!

Cheers,

Mike/TB379

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:33 AM

Hello Chaps!!

I've not built a bandit before so I thought I'd start with this:

From what I hear its a decent kit and I'm looking forward to getting stuck into it, however its my first 109, so be gentle with me!

Auf Wiedersehen!Cool [8D]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:01 AM

I am thinking I am going to get some decals for my K-4:

But I can't decide which on to do. I like Black 15 and the one on the bottom, No. 5800. No. 5800 has a NMF underside which I thought was pretty cool. What do you guys think?

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:40 AM
The side of Black 15 looks like mountains.  I like that one.  The picture of 5800 doesn't show the NMF very well.

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:52 AM

Welcome aboard Darren!  You picked a gem of a kit for your first 109. Thumbs Up [tup]

Warhammer25- I like that sheet, especially Black 15.  John's right, it does look like mountains on the side!  5800 is my second choice, very unusual camo on that bird.

Frank 

 

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:55 AM

I think I will probably go with Black 15. I like the looks of it.

Tango 1, are you going to make that G-10 into the high-altitude paint job of White 44?

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:17 PM

Does anyone have these decals in 1/48 that they don't have plans to use?  I would buy the sheet but for 1 set of markings... I have so many 109 sheets but not that one.  It Eagle Cal #36.  I have dozen to offer in trade. E's, F's G's, K's... Europe, desert, Battle of Britain etc.

 

Marc  

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:19 PM
Yes, I really like the simple paint scheme on White 44, I think its unusual for a '109. I hope I can do the kit justice, with a one colour paint job, I cannot go too wrong!Wink [;)]
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by phoenix7187 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:19 PM

Wing nut let me look around some more. I have several sets of yellow 1 hartmann decals in 1/48, but only have white 1 in 1/32. I could have sworn I had that in 1/48 as well. That's my favorite hartmann 109.

Warhammer I like the "black 15" the best as well. The late style lumpy camo is fun to paint.

Thunderbold. I added some small scratchbuilt items on the exterior like gear indcators, oil and radiator actuator bars and brake lines. But the 1/48 hasegawa K-4 is a real nice kit. In fact just about all of hasegawa 109 kits are top notch.

 

Stan
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Posted by phoenix7187 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:27 PM
Wing nut I have the 1/32 revell  lone eagles 109G kit this also has white 1 decals in it. So I have 2 sets in 1/32 but nothing in 1/48.  
Stan
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