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The official Submarine Warfare Group Build 2016 - 2017

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, August 28, 2016 8:05 PM

Doug,

As far as I understand it, oil canning is caused by several things. The flexing of the structure caused by stress, expanding and contracting of the metal going through temperature changes and pressures cause by wave action and even depth charging.

Aircraft get oil canning as well as ships.

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:28 PM

MC...I'll show some of my ignorance here, is "oil canning" the uneven texture of the outter hull plating? If so, the work youv'e done is outstanding! I'm going to learn alot here by the looks of it. Lots of good work going on.

Doug

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, August 28, 2016 4:02 PM

rob44
And Revel has just released a 1/44 flower class corvette kit!

That might make a nice addition to my collection. 

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Posted by rob44 on Sunday, August 28, 2016 1:25 PM

I am following this great Group Build. Unfortunately I dont have the time to participate. If I might suggest for those interested you might like the 1951 book "The Cruel Sea" written by Nicholas Monsarrat. It tell the fictional story of the flower class corvette "Compass Rose" and the battle of the Atlantic. A 1953 British movie was also made that follows the book quite closely. Both well done.

And Revel has just released a 1/44 flower class corvette kit!

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:56 AM

MC- Every time I follow one of your builds, all I can do is shake my head in wonder.  You keep pulling rabbits out of the hat.  You have to be overrun with fur balls by now.  Very nicely done.

 

Got about half the hull seams filled and sanded.  Then to prime and see where I need more work.  Putting off starting on the 'scope shears and the rest of the PE til that is done.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:28 PM
I’m almost done with the first half of the hull. After I completed the oil canning, I went back and added some Mr. Dissolved Putty. After it was dry I went over that with some denatured alcohol to knock down some of the high areas. I painted the hull with a primer to see how it came out. I need to work a little more on a few areas but all in all I’m pleased with it.
Then on to the second half.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:19 PM

I don't think anyone is planning a wreck either. 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:27 PM

Thanks Steve... didn't think I had seen any one on that one. Yeah, I guess thats like building a Bf 109, there were about 33,000 built, but U-boats were only about a thousand (?) of all of the various types, so much harder to select a subject without over lapping with someone else. But hey... I'm easy to get along with... lol. Thanks again and more to follow...

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:07 PM

Doug,

As far as I  know, no one is building U576 so your safe. Bish is doing type VII though.

Steve

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:55 PM

Well, I finally was able to get some work done on my sub...If there were no others doing this one, (I looked through posts and unless I have over looked I didn't see any one doing the Boat I setteled on), I'd like to do the U576, an early Type VIIC commisioned 1941, and lost to combat action July, 15th 1942 of the coast of North Carolina, (Cape Hatteras). Her remains were identified October of 2014. She was sunk by both deck gun fire and depth charges dropped from two Kingfishers. All hands lost.

As I said earlier, this kit leaves nuch to be desired, but is still a good sound base to start with, I am by no neans a rivet counter, but would like to be fairly acurate in my building, and am relying heavily on the referance books and what ever photos I can come across.

I'll be attempting alot of scratch building as this claiming to be "Highly detailed" Wasn't, lol...

  

Laying out the upper hull/deck pieces...

according to pictures I've found, this lower hull, rudders, prop shaft ect... are goung to have to be completely re done...

Thats about it for now, Starting to get the decking on, having to dremel each slot in the decking plate... but, its coming along...

Thanks and more soon,

Doug

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:12 AM
Well I’m about half way done with the oil canning……on one side of the hull. I’m becoming more confidant with this process and less worried about messing it up. If there is a mistake, it can easily be fixed and will mold right into the weathered U-boat after a patrol scheme. I can also use this project to practice some weathering technics I wanted to try for chipping, rust and faded paint. I wanted to get some pictures last night but decided to wait until I done with the first half of the hull.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:14 PM
Rigidrider
The later model VII  from what I've read had the modified gun decks with a four barrel flack gun and no 3.7 deck gun. 
Sounds like a late model Turmumbau-IV tower (two single 20 on either side of the tower on the upper platform and a quad 20 on the Wintergarden).
I will be enjoying your build Doug and following with great interest.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 6:46 PM

you bet! Not a terrible big difference in the two, and they were both used at the same time and in the same theaters. I'll just have to select a different wreck and location. This one will be an early model VII without the modified gun deck, and will still have a deck gun mounted. The later model VII  from what I've read had the modified gun decks with a four barrel flack gun and no 3.7 deck gun. 

thanks

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:44 AM

Cool Doug, can't wait to see your progress. Are you still planning a wreck?

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:21 AM

OK, time to start building... already ran into issues with kit. guess I had better start looking closer when buying from yard sales and model shows. The kit I THOUGHT that I had bought several years ago,  acording to the box is an Academy 150th type IX, it actually turns out to be a Model Craft 150th type VII C. had to look up online and down load instructions. also had to re research this type. No problem though, I can still do the build I want to do. By the looks of it, its not a bad kit, but even though it states ' highly detailed' its not, and will require a lot of scratch building to get it right. You can however build it with a motor (battery operated) that allows actual operation in a pool or such. lol...Any way, pictures to follow soon... Thanks

Doug

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, August 22, 2016 3:08 PM

Tedious job using a curved blade for the oil canning but you have more control over using a Dremel. Looks awesome Steve.

I started researching for my Gato build so I will be posting soon.

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, August 22, 2016 8:36 AM

TAD-  Are you planning on any of the PE for it?  If you use the Eduard deck set it requires cutting out all the "planking" on the main deck and putting in 2mm x 2mm square cross beams in the right spots.  The PE does open up the holes in the decking though.  Looks like the tower set is real nice.  Have the Big Ed kit for mine, have looked her over but not anywhere near a start yet.

MC- Nice work on the outer hull plating.  I like that touch.

 

Finished getting the deck attached and almost have it smoothed up forward, got the sides of the fairwater glued up and the cig deck in.  Have to fill the deck/hull seam and a few voids.  Gettting ready to start on all the tower PE----the nightmare is lurking.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, August 22, 2016 8:10 AM

having never really built submarines, this is quite the learning experiance. Loving all the info and the good looking work going on. hope to get started soon on mine... I'll just try to keep up...

take care all...

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, August 21, 2016 8:00 PM
An update. I cut out the torpedo flood holes and finished the hull PE then I decided to add a whole lot more work to my build and try some oil canning. This is the first time to try this method and I think it’s turning out alright. Maybe not so deep on the rest of the hull. It’s too late to stop now, but it should add a really nice effect.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:18 AM
It’s taking a while and I thought I finished the drilling, grinding, filing and trimming, but the flood holes near the fore torpedo tubes need drilling. I was going to leave them undrilled at first but that was bothering me. I worked so hard on the rest of the limber holes, flood plates and drain holes, I just need to get it done. I also installed some of the PE and still have more to add to the hull including the rest of the flood plates.
I wanted to get something up picture wise so here it is. I’ll probably have the exterior hull done this weekend than on to the torpedo tubes.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:54 PM

Tal Afar Dave
 I'll be doing the 1/72nd scale Revell Gato

Holy Smoke! That's a bigun!

I got you down TAD

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:31 PM

Alright! Now that you've added an American Gato badge.....I can't refuse.  I'll be doing the 1/72nd scale Revell Gato, finishing it as the USS Jack: my grandfather's submarine.

Good work so far everyone!  Looking forward to watching everyone's progress and adding my own humble contributions.

TAD

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 15, 2016 10:11 AM

Guys,

Cody fixed the misspellings on the two badges and we added one more badge for the Japanese.... to make things just a little harder for you.

Steve

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Posted by Real G on Monday, August 8, 2016 2:39 PM

Bish, I just pieced together some rough drawings based on stuff I pulled dowm from the Internet.  The one illustration with dimensions and a graphic scale that I found seems to be off on either the overall length or max diameter, but I'll just eyeball it so it looks like the photos.

Goldhammer and Steve, yeah it's still kinda snack-sized - Twinkie versus Tootsie Roll compared to Mikro-Mir's 1/144 plastic kit.  I might upscale later on to 1/35 to go with my other weird sub kits.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:55 PM

G, i didn't realise you were scratchbuilding, really nice work. Are you working off a set of plans or just working it out as you go.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:52 PM

G,

By the looks of your mat the build looks to be around 7 to 8 inches. Nice work, I'm interested to see the cone.

Steve

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:42 PM

Bish

Nice work GH. But looks like your really spoilt with those holes open and you get the pressure hull as well.

 

 

Since the younger of my two sisters was 16 years older, I guess I'm the original spoiled bratBig Smile

 

Got the deck and hull sanded and clamped to glue, will get that done tonight. Then start on the tower and some of the PE, and fill and the deck seams.  At least I won't have to fill/sand the bottom.

 

G- good start, if it was me, I'd have to go to 1/16 to be able to do anything.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:28 PM

Nice work GH. But looks like your really spoilt with those holes open and you get the pressure hull as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Real G on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:18 PM

Okay here goes with the 1/72 Resurgam.  Please bear with me as I make stuff up as I go along.  Stick out tongue

https://flic.kr/p/KXCqA2] [/url]Resurgam-06 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/KQVcfi] [/url]Resurgam-07 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/KUTSZy] [/url]Resurgam-08 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Looks like something out of Star Trek.

I guess I will have to make a balsa cone to heat form the front and back end panels.  The real thing was covered with three sections of steel plate with lapped edges, so I wil probably replicate this when making the panels.   This thing is tiny - maybe I should have scaled up to 1/35.  Oh well.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 6, 2016 9:59 PM

That sure looks nice GH. I like the way Trumpeter molds the hull with the open limber holes. I'm still working on the holes on the U-boat. Sheesh, what a mess that makes.

 

PJ, that’s what I heard. Just about anything will do as long as there's something in there.

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