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The official Submarine Warfare Group Build 2016 - 2017

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, August 6, 2016 7:42 PM

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 6, 2016 9:13 AM

PJ, i don't have anything for the Type IX yet. I have not even looked into what i will get as i have been hoping for a new tower. I had not looked at the Eduard gun but i was thinking about the CMK. When i saw that being release, i was hoping that would mean an earlier tower.

I will leave the Type IX for a while, once i have done my 1/125th kit, i want to focus on the Type VII as i have everything for that. I have seen those MER's but not read anything about them, thats a real shame. I have the Brasin deck gun for the Type VII, i might have to check that out and se if there any problems.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, August 6, 2016 9:06 AM

Bish

I also have the 1/72 Type IX and want to build it not as the 505 and want to add the deck gun. There is so much to research to make sure the set up is correct. Which gun are you using? The Eduard one is said to be out of scale unless they fixed the problem.

And speaking about out of scale, same thing hapenned with their Brasin MER set where the loading lugs on Mk. 82s don't match the MER's attachment points and are a bit too short so the Mk 82s at the rear stations hit the front ones! I compared them to the Hasegawa's MERs and you can see the size difference. 

 

Steve

I have built several 1/72 Type VIIs and did the same thing about grinding down the inside of the hull to where you almost see daylight and then clean up the holes with a #11 blade and round files.

I will be starting my 1/144 Gato soon as I'm in between several builds and a couple of comissions, so I haven't forgotten. I will be watching your progress on this one with great interest.

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Posted by armornut on Thursday, August 4, 2016 1:11 PM

So I don't forget that I'm part of this GB  I'm off and running, silent running that is, LOL, as soon as I post this my sub is coming out so I can plan my build. As soon as I can co- ordinate with my wife pix will follow. Everything I have seen here so far is awesome.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:38 PM

MailDude
The problem is the plastic is so hard. Nothing like my previous kits. I have to use my coarsest sanding stick to remove the littlest material. The locator holes are all too smal, or maybe the locator pins are super clunky.

Yep, sounds like an old Renwal kit. For tough plastic I use small files which will knock down that plastic pretty quick.

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Posted by MailDude on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:15 PM

modelcrazy
I did some work on the starboard stern and installed the PE. I realized that removing the precise amount of plastic before installing the PE pieces wasn’t necessary. For the port side I’m first drilling some locating holes. I will glue the PE on first then grind the inside. Once this is ground down I’ll cut out the holes with an Exacto.
 

That is some great work. You must have a lot mor patience than I.

I actually considered throwing in the towel on this build yesterday, but have since decided to stick with it. The problem is the plastic is so hard. Nothing like my previous kits. I have to use my coarsest sanding stick to remove the littlest material. The locator holes are all too smal, or maybe the locator pins are super clunky. But......here's what I have so far. Dryfitted not glued yet. 

The torpedoe room, with some torpedoes in the background.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:11 PM

I'm glad to see you start up G. I always like your unusual projects.

Steve

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:07 PM

Sorry guys, I have been busy with non-model stuff lately.  But all the activity on the GB has gotten me to start my project:

https://flic.kr/p/KEDQDZ] [/url]Resurgam-05 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I will be drafting up a set of basic drawings to make patterns for the various parts.  Also it is a good time to do a check against Mikro-Mir's research, as I have a feeling it is very suspect.

Still on the fence regarding forming the hull parts.  A straight-up lamination/sanding is the least work, but that would result in a heavy model.  I am leaning towards heat forming the hull panels over turned cones made of balsa.  Remember, my mantra is "measure once, cut twice", so what will happen is anyone's guess!

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 9:39 PM
I did some work on the starboard stern and installed the PE. I realized that removing the precise amount of plastic before installing the PE pieces wasn’t necessary. For the port side I’m first drilling some locating holes. I will glue the PE on first then grind the inside. Once this is ground down I’ll cut out the holes with an Exacto.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:41 AM

MD,

 

It use to really freak me out to cut and hack but not anymore. I can always fix it with filler mad styrene.

Steve

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Posted by MailDude on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 7:33 AM

modelcrazy

That's an awesome idea MD, I never thought of that.

 

I thought so. Although I did it to protect really old plans, a plus is paints will wipe right off. So will coffeeBig Smile.

Looks like you are getting a good start on your kit. I'm trying to get a little more adventurous at modifying my builds. I get a lot of inspiration and motivation at seeing you guys work on here. Thanks for thatYes.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 1, 2016 9:57 PM
I started grinding off the plastic behind the limber holes, vents and scuppers. This is a messy time consuming process but should help immensely in opening them up. I have read of grinding them completely to open them, halfway and drilling the front and not at all and just using a drill. I’m choosing the middle one.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 1, 2016 7:16 PM

That's an awesome idea MD, I never thought of that.

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Posted by MailDude on Monday, August 1, 2016 6:44 PM

Well, I can't say I have gotten started on my build yet. But, what I did do today was take the sheet of instructions to Office Max, and got it laminated. The sheet was so old I was afraid it would crumble with much use. The sheet was 15"X29", and it cost less than $4 to laminate. That seems like a real deal if anyone else may need the same service in the future.

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, August 1, 2016 11:42 AM

The building and launching ways are open and the welders are storming the entrance.....

 

I'll follow right behind.  Got the foam board glued up last night (Yeah, jumped the gun a touch), and the hull opening cut out this morning.  Here she is, along with the White Ensign PE set and the Nautlis resin gun set, and I was able to get a second 20mm from him without buying another complete gun set. Also a pic of the plate made up for the base.  Hope to get the pressure hull and hull together this week, along with shaping the foam board. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 1, 2016 9:39 AM

The official start of the Official Submarine Warfare GB 2016-17

I believe I will start off my 1st entry with a breakdown of what I have here.

The kit was purchased a few years back by my daughter on Father's Day and I received the PE Big Ed set last Christmas. I didn't get the Pontos wood deck because frankly' I couldn't afford or justify it. Like I said earlier, the removal of the box from the stash sure leaves a huge hole Confused I need to fill the void.

Well here it is. I'm sure most everyone is familiar with the kit, have one in your stash, built one yourself or watched a few WIP builds. The hull comes in 4 pieces and is going to require some surgery to open the limber holes and flood hatches. I will also build a representation of the pressure hull which can be seen through the limber holes.

 

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:39 PM

Bish

Tell me about it. I love it. But sometimes i do like just getting into a build and not worrying about it. Just not to often Big Smile

 

YEP. we don't do that well. I now have 2 wargames on the Leningrad campaign and one on the Russo-Finnish War. finished my 3rd book on that and, so typical, now have a 1/35 Finnish BT-42, Soviet T-28 (2 of which were captured and used by the Finns), BT-5, Ba-10, T-26, AFV CLUB T-34 with clear hull and interior and a T-35 (which wasn't in that war but was part of the Leningrad Military District). All this for class prep for my fall class on the siege of Leningrad.

So let's just open the T-28 box and build it. But NOOOOOO!!! let's research pics for a diorama ala Bish, look up Finnish armor in the Continuation War, search for 1/35 Finnish ski troops, learn how to make white snow (i know how to make yellow snow) look for videos online and read 4 more books in August and start my class slides.

I know. Let's get into modern naval warfare in the South China Sea and U-boats. and we have a new dog. Typical.Big Smile

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:41 PM

Tell me about it. I love it. But sometimes i do like just getting into a build and not worrying about it. Just not to often Big Smile

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:12 PM
Thanks to you questioning it. That made me step back and hit the books. It amazes me how much research goes into a build if you want to get it right.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:19 PM

Gald to see you got it sorted out Steve. I did find my book but its not that helpful. I needf to sit down for a good session and go through Douglas's work.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:09 PM
After some serious research, mainly using Douglas Martindale’s writings on the 505 on the Accurate Model Parts site, and looking up other papers, I decided to go with the 515. This is my final decision......Really!!
It seems that the 507, 527 and 557 which were my original choices, would have had the Turm-II (tower (a single 20 on the upper platform and a single 20 on the Wintergarden) as the Turm-IV (two single 20 on either side of the tower on the upper platform) would have come around after the start of 1943. The 507 was sunk in Jan 43, 527 was sunk in May 43, so it may have had the Turm-IV, no telling. But the 527 would have surly had the quad 20 Vierling on the Wintergarden as the single auto 37, in the kit, wasn’t available in numbers yet. The 557 was sunk Dec 41 so there’s no way it has the Turm-IV. The Turm-IV wasn’t even conceived of yet.
So where did that leave me? Searching for another subject to reproduce.
Enter the 515. More searching reviled a survivor’s report after it’s sinking in Arp 44 by rockets and DC’s. After interviewing the survivor’s, it was reviled that the 515 had 2 single 20s, an auto 37 and was missing the 10.5 cm deck gun during its 6th and last patrol, just like the Revell kit. This is nice as I won’t have to scratch out a ready locker in front of the tower.
The 515 had a pretty illustrious career, sinking 25 ships and damaging 2. It was apparently one of the top scoring boats of the 10th Flotilla. The emblems she wore were a hammer on either side of the tower (not very glamorous) and the 10th Flotilla emblem on the front.
  
So research done, I will be starting this tomorrow. The missing box sure leaves a hole in the stash pile.
 
Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 29, 2016 10:36 PM

You got it Wirraway.

Good to see you here.

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Posted by Wirraway on Friday, July 29, 2016 8:18 PM
Put me down for the Academy 1/150 IXB as well. I normally dont like to build the same kit as someone else on a GB, but Doug is doing a wreck and this is the only sub in my stash so....

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, July 29, 2016 6:33 PM

OOOPS... yes, 1/150.  Cant wait to start, just waiting on a book to help with research... U-869 looks interesting, but still have to narrow down some. Thanks!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:57 PM

You got it Doug. Welcome Sign I assume that is the 1/150 scale?

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:54 PM

Yup, lolol... I'm back, it has been so terribly busy this year, we've made 2 trips to the Philippines getting our house remodeled, my wife FINALLY got her USCitizenship, work has been effing crazy busy, and I have prescious little time to build anything as of late. And on top of all that I have a surgeon wanting to  remove some of my body parts next possible opportunity.  AAAAARGH ... lolol... but, I have thought of and have missed each and every one of you and am wanting to build again! I look forward to the banter and amazing builds as was in the past. Can't wait to start! 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:22 PM

Rigidrider

Hey MC... I'd sure like to get in on this one. I found an Academy type IX UBoat at a yard sale a few yrs ago, and I've been looking for a good reason to build. I've never really built but 1 sub before and this will be new to me, being I want to do a wreck. II'll need to do a bit of research and may not be able to kick off on the start date but shortly there after? 

Thanks

Doug

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:21 PM

I ned to do some research as well. Tomorrow i plan on going through my box's of books that are stored in the shed. I am sure theres a U-Boat book in there that will help.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:13 PM

Hey MC... I'd sure like to get in on this one. I found an Academy type IX UBoat at a yard sale a few yrs ago, and I've been looking for a good reason to build. I've never really built but 1 sub before and this will be new to me, being I want to do a wreck. II'll need to do a bit of research and may not be able to kick off on the start date but shortly there after? 

Thanks

Doug

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:09 PM

The other boat I was thinking of was the 507. It was a type IXC, should be close enough to the 505 but still has the deck gun.

Armament:

It sunk several ships and was lost to a Cat.

http://uboat.net/boats/u507.htm

Plus my wife would like the emblem.

I just need to do some reserch on the tower, but it was constructed by Deutsche Werft AG, Hamburg like the 505. Nothing is in stone but I would like to mount the 10.5 cm gun. It's just too cool.

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