HMS victory build

Steve,

I'm working on setting up an account on post image, so I'll have some updated pics soon.

According to the 1/48 scale draught I have of the ship, there are 7 Mizzen shrouds, 11 Main shrouds and 10 Fore shrouds along with the small back stay stool/channels, this is the approach I went with.

All of the models I've seen except one represent this configuration.\and just adds to the mystique of how she was actually fitted.

Michael D

michaelD

 dafi has sent me some old sketch's , and some photo's of a model they show , 10 shroud's on the fore , 12 on the main , and only 5 on the mizzen , I am basically going by your beautiful model build , but I don't have any pic's of it with the shroud's , ratline's done , only the hull , { which I'm very grateful for , after what photobucket did } . in the model supplied kit they give a large ,and a small channel , for the backstay's , but I noticed the 1765 one had only 1 large one , with the backstay's also on it . am I correct in this mate .

steve

great to have you aboard , I'm pretty sure I'm going to need your help , with this mate .

steve5

WOW! I do not know how I have missed this thread Steve, but I've subscribed to it now. Beautiful work so far. Keep the pictures coming.

Steve

Hi Steve,

The only modifications I did was to relocate and reduce the amount of deadeyes on the Fore and Main channels, the Mizzen I believe were fine.

really don't know where you get this repetitiveness thing from mike LOL ,

thank's TB , was going to do it in red anyway , but didn't really know why they did it , that way . now I know , cheer's .

michael , dafi , do you still have to extend the channel's , when they get lowered one deck down ??

steve5

Hi Steve;

 Listen , I need to remind you to paint the gun decks below the main deck in red . Why ? It was done to lessen the shock of seeing the blood of a crewman or even yourself after getting hit by those murderous splinters a good hit would generate .

 Tanker - Builder

thank's guy's , damn , I missed that while studying michael's photo's ,

Great!

I am not sure, but I do believe in 1778 the anchor shoe was not yet fit.***

XXXDAn

***PS: As the chains are placed one deck lower the shoes make no sense there anyway ;-)

Looking good Steve, as you've found out, once you get rolling the mods are not that difficult, just a lot of them.

one side done , now for the big task of sanding the copper plate of off of the bottom , and cutting in a landing entry

thankyou mike for the nice word's , I seem to get bored with the smaller model's , over too quick , though thinking about it , it might explain some of my drinking habit's

while I was in the cutting up mode , I had a go at the poop deck by shifting the skylight hole back a bit , and adding some beams , as per dafi's recommendation's , I think I'm getting a bit cocky with this modifying lark  , dafi also explained that the top wale is too narrow, see how I go expanding it .

This is why I don't begin my Heller 1/100 HMS Victory - It would drive me to drink! (I mean, of course, more booze than I ought to be drinking .

Steve, you're a brave, talented model builder and my hat's off to you. The scratch building, modifications, and the general repetitiveness of doing what must be done to achieve a satisfactory looking end result (I'm referring to the cannons when I mentioned repetitiveness) would be beyond the scope of my skills and would probably send me off the deep end of the sanity chart were I to attempt the project. Nonetheless, I'm certainly transfixed with this thread and will be checking in on your progress for sure.

couldn't help myself , had to give it a go . once I got over the fear of stuffing it up , it wasn't that hard

Whatever you feel comfortable with :-)

XXXDAn

If I could ,seastallion I would love to , not in the forseable future I'm afraid .

dafi ;

I'm not sure I have the ability to shorten the forecastle deck , and side wall's , might have to pass on that one , mate .

steve5

If going to England  i recomend going to Portsmouth where the ship is docked.I did while in the NAVY and it is a very impressive ship to visit.

I am quite confident that the Vic got some kind of build bulkwards on the poop in 1803. The picture shows just one of three tested versions that I found on contemporary models.

As for the Vic of 1765 or better 1778 - first time commissiond - it is more easy, look at the model of 1765 or at the poop today with only the netting and hammoc cranes. That should just fit.

XXXDAn

thank's daniel , I'll put them on before I glue the hull halves together . should still be able to see the hole's from the inside then ., what's with the built up walls on the poop deck . I have alway's thought they should have them ,  I'm sure they wouldn't like loosing too many men over board up there ,

I have stayed on the way michael depicted her , and started modifying the gunnals , is that the correct term ?

Well done :-)

If you feel like it, you could enlarge the upper whale. Should have the same width as the middle one. Just add some stripes of Evergreen underneath and on top.

See details here page 3, it also is correct for 1765 :-)
http://www.dafinismus.de/bilder/Platinen_ab_2015/Etch_Victory_en_2_V12.pdf

XXXDAn

thank's for that gmorrison ,some very nice work indeed . you still put a lot of work on the middle deck , 

I'm still waiting for some gear to arrive , starting to make some slight changes to the hull , don't know what these are called , but I know they were on the 1765 model

Yes I did all three decks a little different, grabbing approximate thicknesses from McKay.

That's a few. Still rebuilding my albums from the PB debacle.

thank's gmorrison , was intending to do the back rigging , did you thicken the upper deck too , I was thinking , the walls would taper some what . I used 3.2mm on the two lower gun deck's , maybe 1.5mm on the upper ? 

I am also going to have a go at putting in some knee's , between the cannon's , have to wait and see how I'll go with that one ,

on a side note , any chance of a couple of pic's of your victory . would love to see it .

Nice work! Those thickened gun ports really make a difference. 

On my Victory, I cheated and just ran a thick breaching rope along from knob to knob, attaching it to the inner side of the ship between each cannon; on the lower two gun decks.

On the upper gun deck, it's totally ok to rig the tackle on the guns visible under the gangways, only.

Gun tackle properly also has a running in tackle at the back, attached to a ring in the deck.

thank's gene , a march hare I ain't , no I intend doing 20 top , and upper deck cannons , plus the two caronades , the rest you don't see and will only have the red stopper in the end of the bigger cannons ,

the bigger rope is from syren , .025 , or .63mm , it's beautiful stuff .the rope machine is for later on seizing the shrouds etc .

dafi your work is sublime , I would love to see you do another victory and put as much work into the top deck , that would be something .

Call me  30-March-Hares ;-)

Absolutely beautiful Steve. You won't rig the lower deck cannons too will you? I'd be crazier than a March Hare if I did even one.  Is that big rope on the cannon from your new rope tool ?

thank's daniel , all the the photo's you have sent me has been invaluable .

I hope that I can help:

http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66473.html

Note the different colors of the gunports, also the different shades of grey and blue :-)

Quarter deck last two ports greenish blue, the rest red

Upper deck last two ports greyish blue, the other ports with lid white, open ports red

Middle deck white

Lower deck red

To make things really colorful: all gunports with lids have the recess where the lip closes in painted red.

Happy painting ;-)

XXXDAn

finally able to get some more work done , with thickening of the hull around the gun port's , on the bottom 2 deck's .  I do have john mckay's book , but it is only on the later version of the victory . can anyone tell me if the gun port 's , were painted red like in the early 1765 version as well , gee ! I am missing the prof already , he was such a wealth of information ,and a  thourough gentleman to go with it .