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My Super 61 (Walcott's bird) in progress

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Posted by intruder_bass on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 12:56 PM
Thats really great idea!
I already forgot about this ManualBig Smile [:D]
chapter 3


The only thing is that I have TM 1-1520-253-10 for UH-60Q helicopters... it doesn't contain all special equipment for DAP or 160th birds.
According to this bottom view picture 2 whitish disks ARE the altimeter antennas and the triandle bubble is LD/ADF antenna... If I am not mistakingCool [8D]

Still nothing about 3 antennas behind the FLIR and the plugs.

Andy
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 5:41 PM
The Two long antennas behind the FLIR are the ones for the Pilot Locator System. In the 'Hawk, one of the FM radios is removed and the control head is inserted in the center console. My last unit had three birds wired for it. It is used to locate pilots who are using their PRC-112's. The UH-60's PLS antenna's are slightly behind the pilot/co-pilot stations, slightly ahead of the Struts in alignment.
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Posted by intruder_bass on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 6:25 PM
From your opinion do i have to make them too? I mean this PLS system was installed back in 93'?

Here are couple of new pics of the progress...




Andy
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 11, 2005 8:55 PM
We had the AN/ARS-6(V) or the earlier cousin of it. Selected units in ArmyAv had them, namely 1/52nd in Korea on the A+ 'hawks and a few Medivacs. That was back in '89 or '90. However, from some of the photos I've seen of DAPS, they seem to be absent, or very hard to see. You have plenty of room as the antennas were more under the crew dog's station.

Your tailboom looks great, however, I have a question, and hopefully if I'm wrong someone will correct me. Your side profile of the tailboom has the panel access to what I remember is the ECS (Environmental Control System) or older High Freq radio shtuph. The only -60's that had that were EH's and the VIP birds. EH's had them because of the DF equipment in back would bake the AC if the ECS would fail (not red X'able, so aircraft was PMC instead of FMC) and the VIP birds because of all the perfumed princes that rode in the back. Again, memory is clouded by age and a misspent youth, so crew dogs or line techs, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Posted by intruder_bass on Monday, July 11, 2005 11:35 PM
Wow! Thats interesting!
Do you mean this multi-angle panel with rivets on it is the access one? It did not come with the kit (Eduard set gives it) To say truth I didn't even think it might not be necessary on DAPs...Wink [;)]

Andy
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 15, 2005 4:21 AM
Andy,
If it's the panel you're refering to then I can tell you that we have one on each side of the tailboom on our HH-60G's. They're not on the MH-60K and I can't remember on the MH-60L. I've got some pics of them on our HH-60G's. If you'd like I'll try to post them (a little busy at the moment). The one on the left side has a meshed vent opening in the middle of it (not sure what for).

Oh yeah, I know that at least S-67 had PLS installed in Mog and I know that a couple other MH-60L's had PLS as well....just can't remember exact tail numbers. Most of the SOF Hawks I've worked out of have (or have had) PLS installed simply because CSAR is often a SOF-air mission.
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Posted by intruder_bass on Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:08 AM
Salbando, Mscottholt - you are right (as always thoughSmile [:)]) I took this panel off already and sanded the surface. Here is the pic of what Eduard offers to make on the right (starboard) side of tailcone:



Same story with this panels?
I found at least one photo of 160th bird where it is seen but I better ask you guys before I glew it on just to make sureBig Smile [:D]



Andy
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:44 AM
The lower left panel is an access panel, for an antenna, it stays. The right panel looks like a sheetmetal repair patch, as the rivets follows the longerons fairly accurately and the "Footballs" are used to bolt into the skeleton of the tailboom. Unless that is a later mod for the ECS, I can't think what that is for. The Task Force does have considerably more radio capacity than line units, it might be for SATCOM .
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Posted by TommyHawk on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:57 AM
Hi - Any new in-progress pics?
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Posted by intruder_bass on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:50 PM
LOL!!!
No problem! I thought I made everybody sick allready with this topicWink [;)]
But if you interested....
here is Super 61 allmost ready for painting (just couple of things left to add like hoist and antennas)
Hope next week will start paint job.






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Posted by Avus on Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:34 AM
Yawn!
Is that all?!
Yeah not bad ...

Bow [bow]Just kidding it's AWESOME!Bow [bow]
It's only that ev'rybody keeps saying that your work is impressive, so thought I'd change a little. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Awood23 on Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:41 PM
Intruder, If I didint know better Id swear those were pics of a real Blackhawk working its way down the assembly line.
Outstanding.
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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:04 PM
I'm more than slightly impressed. Wow, that's freakin awesome!

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Posted by grandadjohn on Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:13 PM
Been a while since I checked in here, you have one GREAT looking bird coming along, can't believe the detail you've put in
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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 3:25 PM
Wow!! [wow]very, very nice. I must say that I am way beyond impressed!!! Looks good enough to climb in and crank up right now!! Big Smile [:D]
Bow [bow]

You are setting a very high bar for the rest of us, thanks for the inspiration.

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Posted by JohanT on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 4:39 PM
I have been on vacation.
You too?
This is so the best thread on this site, please keep posting :)
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Posted by intruder_bass on Monday, October 10, 2005 12:11 AM
A little update before finish. Smile [:)]

M-134 Minigun
barrels and "body" from CC
handles - from the kit but a little modifiedWink [;)]
ammo chute - Eduard PE (Huey armament set)
"spent-shells-thing" - piece of plastic sprue (drilled out)
nuzzle - foil
electric cables - wiresWink [;)]
lower mount - brass square rods
upper mount - kit's



Ammo boxes under constructionWink [;)]

Andy
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Posted by Avus on Monday, October 10, 2005 3:41 AM
OK Guys, we can pack our stuff and go home! intruder_bass is here with his superb Miniguns ... as usual!
Andy would you please stop posting your pics ... we are green with envy Wink [;)]

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Posted by adrake2 on Monday, October 10, 2005 6:15 PM
Whistling [:-^] Now that is a beautiful gun. Once again, I am very impressed with your work, Andy. I think I can speak for all of us on the helo forum that we can't wait to see the finished product.
-Aaron
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 10, 2005 7:34 PM
Very nice work. I wish I'd seen this thread before I started my bird. Keep us up to date with the build.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by DPD1 on Friday, October 14, 2005 12:50 AM
Just read all the way through this thread for the first time, and wanted to comment on all the great info. Looks like you will definitely have a show stopper when it's finished.

It's a shame all the photos and info can't be moved to a permanent place to save, so it won't all be lost eventually. It wouldn't be too hard to save everything and archive it on a page. Looks like some of the pics have disappeared already though.

Dave
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Posted by intruder_bass on Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:31 PM
"Finito la comedia"

Done! Finished! Complete! etc.
No matter which one is the best attack helo in the world - Black Hawk is my favorite chopper in the world!!!Wink [;)]
All critique is welcome and appreciated











Currently working on web page with all explanations on the build and all collected info on MH-60L...
Special thanks to ALL you guys who participate in this project - I will definitely mention your names on that page.
Thanks again!!!
Andy


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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:44 PM
Came out looking awesome. I love the cabin roof. Excellent job.

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Posted by adrake2 on Monday, October 31, 2005 6:39 AM
WOW!!!! Congratulations on finishing the project. That's definitely something anyone would be proud.
-Aaron
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Posted by DPD1 on Monday, October 31, 2005 12:26 PM
Excellent job... That tail rotor is awesome. Even the grass on your base looks good.

Dave
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Posted by Avus on Monday, October 31, 2005 12:47 PM
Wow! Outstanding helo!
Hope mine will look only half as good as this one!

Bow [bow] Bow [bow] Bow [bow] Bow [bow] Bow [bow] Bow [bow] Bow [bow] Bow [bow] Bow [bow]
Just one thing ... what happend to all the stencils?
Didn't you get a copy of our DAP-Decals?

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Posted by Cableguy9238 on Monday, October 31, 2005 1:36 PM
WOW! That is one AMAZING build! I can't wait to see the website when you get it up and running. The amount of detail just posted in THIS thread alone is spectacular.

Great job!
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Posted by RotorRob60 on Monday, October 31, 2005 2:21 PM
Congratulations! You are a Master Modeler. I can only wish that my work was any where close to the quality you produce. I thought you posted pics of a real aircraft on a flightline somewhere!
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Posted by intruder_bass on Monday, October 31, 2005 3:54 PM
QUOTE: [i]Originally posted by AvusJust one thing ... what happend to all the stencils?
Didn't you get a copy of our DAP-Decals?


Yes I did... And they are great! Thanks to You and Gino for them.
But I did not apply them. Well, its a long story First of all I wanted to imitate the flat black surface like on Nightstalkers birds so I used NATO black from Tamiya (works good especially if you wipe the surface after the paint is dry with a tissue - all raised detail becomes darker but all hollows and gaps stay just a little brighter which makes it look dusty. At least to me ) So finally when I was going to apply decals I faced the problem with rough surface, which makes the silvering effect. I covered it with one coat of Future but it did not help a lot. I printed 2 sheets of your decals and tried to put them anyways. The result was as I expected - messy In other case I would probably apply one or even two more coats of Future but it would kill ALL MY RIVETS.... So I took everything off and made just "major" stencils like "UNITED STATES ARMY",tail number, 61 on the door window and "THUNDERSTRUCK" on the coaling. These markings I made with real stencils So basically this is one of the weakest parts on the model.
I tryed but it did not work out

Thanks
Andy
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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, October 31, 2005 4:08 PM
Sorry to hear that our decals didn't work out well for you. They came out great on mine.
Maybe it was the decal paper you used or something like that. I did put two coats of gloss on mine, decaled, then 3 thin coats of flat. No problems with loss of detail.


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