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1/72 B-52D with Big Belly Mod, Operation Arc Light

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:53 PM

Ahh no my friend, the wife would never forgive me lol Big Smile. But thanks for the good words!

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:19 PM

Well Russ, I sure am disappointed man.

We was' hopin' you would just keep going,

and build a huge multi-scale AFB so we-all could populate it

with all kinds of BUFF's, Thuds, F-111's....lol....

I guess we'll just have to look at your incredible work.....Stick out tongue

and wonder what might have been.....WhistlingToast

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:14 PM

Bish

Makes sense. Thanks for all the info. This is going to come in very useful at some point in the future. A really great build to follow.

My pleasure, Bish. And thanks for the good words.

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:36 PM

Lol!  Thanks, Dom!  Interesting thought but that sounds too much like work - and I'm retired Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:25 PM

Russ:

Great work, you sure you don't want to "kit" those and sell them....lol....

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:18 PM

Makes sense. Thanks for all the info. This is going to come in very useful at some point in the future. A really great build to follow.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:09 PM

Thanks, Bish. Yes, the curtains were used to shield against nuclear flash and were still installed even in Viet Nam. Remember, this was still the cold war era and the B-52s were really on loan to the SEA theater, so they had to maintain what nuclear capability they still had.

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, December 23, 2012 12:55 PM

Some more stunning work. I wasn't even aware of those blast curtains. I am guessing they were to protect the crew when dropping nuclear weapons. Where they still fitted to the aircraft in Vietnam?

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 23, 2012 12:53 PM

Hi, All,

Below is the first of three B-4 maintenance stands I'm building for the maintenance scenarios in my diorama. This one is in the fully retracted position and will be positioned at the 47 Section hatch. The other's will be at various heights and will be positioned at the chin radome and the display engine. I also plan to build a B-5 stand for the turret maintenance scenario.

The second picture shows what a real B-4 stand looks like. These stands were really rugged and used everywhere, and are still in use today. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a B-4 stand somewhere that has been in service since before the B-52s rolled off the assembly line Big Smile.

Cheers, and have a Happy Holiday!

Russ

 

 

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:06 PM

Thanks, Dom! Big Smile

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:41 PM

Striker8241

I finally got the blast curtains in and believe me, it was no blast Big Smile. It was a real struggle for the side curtains - I should have put them in first before the canopy frames - lessons learned Smile. The curtains are made of aluminum foil sprayed white on one side. I used a pair of straight tweezers to make the folds in the side curtains. I used small round styrene stock to make the rods for the front curtains. Glue the rods to the un-painted top edge and roll them gently until you get the shape you want.

The front curtains apparently had a spring-loaded roller system that took up the slack down below the window sill. Since there's no slot at the bottom on the model, I had to place the curtains against the outside of the frames and run my fingernail along the bottom edge to get the curve of the window, then cut along the resulting line before gluing the curtains in behind the frames.

Cheers,

Russ 

 

 

Fab blast curtains Russ!

I can see the details inside, even though that is a dark interior!

Nice 'scruntch' ! Very convincing,

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:40 PM

Lol thanks Ken! Not sure I'm ever gonna be finished with it though Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:30 PM

Incredible work Russ!  This baby is going to take off and fly when you are done!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:28 PM

A little more progress today - I added the antenna pedestals for the ECM antennas and the transmitter exhaust vents, and also added the top and bottom flashing navigation beacons. I'll wait until the plane is assembled and painted before adding the antennas.

Cheers,

Russ

Tags: antenna , ECM , B-52

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, December 15, 2012 7:58 PM

Hello, All,

Below is a picture of the nav radar antenna installed in the chin radome. I was only able to find one photo that showed the antenna reflector from the back so I had to guess at the feedhorn assembly, and the reflector support system. If anyone can provide more information on this antenna setup I would certainly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Russ

 

Tags: antenna , B-52 , nav , radar

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:41 AM

Thanks, Ken! Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:42 AM

Striker8241

I finally got the blast curtains in and believe me, it was no blast Big Smile. It was a real struggle for the side curtains - I should have put them in first before the canopy frames - lessons learned Smile. The curtains are made of aluminum foil sprayed white on one side. I used a pair of straight tweezers to make the folds in the side curtains. I used small round styrene stock to make the rods for the front curtains. Glue the rods to the un-painted top edge and roll them gently until you get the shape you want.

The front curtains apparently had a spring-loaded roller system that took up the slack down below the window sill. Since there's no slot at the bottom on the model, I had to place the curtains against the outside of the frames and run my fingernail along the bottom edge to get the curve of the window, then cut along the resulting line before gluing the curtains in behind the frames.

Cheers,

Russ 

 

 

Those curtains look real nice Russ!  Great job!  Very realistic looking!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, December 14, 2012 11:28 AM

I finally got the blast curtains in and believe me, it was no blast Big Smile. It was a real struggle for the side curtains - I should have put them in first before the canopy frames - lessons learned Smile. The curtains are made of aluminum foil sprayed white on one side. I used a pair of straight tweezers to make the folds in the side curtains. I used small round styrene stock to make the rods for the front curtains. Glue the rods to the un-painted top edge and roll them gently until you get the shape you want.

The front curtains apparently had a spring-loaded roller system that took up the slack down below the window sill. Since there's no slot at the bottom on the model, I had to place the curtains against the outside of the frames and run my fingernail along the bottom edge to get the curve of the window, then cut along the resulting line before gluing the curtains in behind the frames.

Cheers,

Russ 

 

 

Tags: B-52 , blast , curtains

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:23 PM

Thanks guys! That means I'm not totally cracked lol Big Smile. I'll drink a toast to both your philosophies!  Toast Beer

Russ

 

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:02 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

You will need to park it on a mirror so everyone can see the detail that you put on the bottom!  Nice work Russ, again as always!  Yes  Yes

Ken

 
Thanks for the good words, Ken!  Smile
 
I know it seems a waste of effort but without this feature added, the view from the side won't look right. There would be a pretty wide empty space that just isn't there on the real plane.
 
In the picture below, the strike camera rain deflector shows as a line between the last rectangular antenna and the large paddle antenna.
 
 
Color me picky Big Smile
 
Russ
 

Russ:

You mentioned,"I know it seems a waste of effort but without this feature added, the view from the side won't look right." i have to agree with Ken, as he put it so well:

"Nice job on the research and paying attention to detail Russ.  I would never say that it was a waste of effort.  It is all a matter of how much pride you have in doing the aircraft you have dear to your heart the justice it deserves!  Only modelers such as ourselves can understand that!"

As I like to quote:

"God does not subtract from our time on earth

the hours we spend modeling.

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:51 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

You will need to park it on a mirror so everyone can see the detail that you put on the bottom!  Nice work Russ, again as always!  Yes  Yes

Ken

 
Thanks for the good words, Ken!  Smile
 
I know it seems a waste of effort but without this feature added, the view from the side won't look right. There would be a pretty wide empty space that just isn't there on the real plane.
 
In the picture below, the strike camera rain deflector shows as a line between the last rectangular antenna and the large paddle antenna.
 
 
Color me picky Big Smile
 
Russ
 

Nice job on the research and paying attention to detail Russ.  I would never say that it was a waste of effort.  It is all a matter of how much pride you have in doing the aircraft you have dear to your heart the justice it deserves!  Only modelers such as ourselves can understand that!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:39 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

You will need to park it on a mirror so everyone can see the detail that you put on the bottom!  Nice work Russ, again as always!  Yes  Yes

Ken

 
Thanks for the good words, Ken!  Smile
 
I know it seems a waste of effort but without this feature added, the view from the side won't look right. There would be a pretty wide empty space that just isn't there on the real plane.
 
In the picture below, the strike camera rain deflector shows as a line between the last rectangular antenna and the large paddle antenna.
 
 
Color me picky Big Smile
 
Russ
 

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:46 PM

Striker8241

Hi, All,

I just added the strike camera window and rain deflector to the undersides, just aft of where the ECM antennas will go. For the window, I used clear styrene covered with a layer of Future floor wax.

The next step will be to prime the fuselage and wings. After that, I will assemble the aircraft. But before I can do that, I need to build the diorama base so I have someplace to park this monster Stick out tongue.

Cheers,

Russ

You will need to park it on a mirror so everyone can see the detail that you put on the bottom!  Nice work Russ, again as always!  Yes  Yes

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:06 AM

NOTE: Information in brackets [ ] has been copied from a previous thread into this post without responses and comments, so some disconnects in the dialog may be apparent.

Hi, All,

I just added the strike camera window and rain deflector to the undersides, just aft of where the ECM antennas will go. For the window, I used clear styrene covered with a layer of Future floor wax.

[I finally got the 47-section hatch cut out. It was a tough job because the plastic is really thick here. This hatch was important to the ECM shop because it gained access to the "ovens" - fiberglass boxes that held our high-power jamming transmitters. Through this hatch, we removed and replaced transmitters and their cooling units, some weighing over 50 lbs each. It also provided access to our chaff dispensers. Each loaded magazine of chaff weighed about 40 lbs (they weighed about 25 lbs empty) and there were 16 of these magazines in a full load, one for each slot in the side of the aircraft. They all had to be handed up through the hatch.

The only clear picture of the 47 Section hatch I could find was on a G (or H?) model, shown below.

Below is a single chaff magazine. Each was about 4 feet long and was made of cast aluminum and steel. It had two channels for chaff bundles. The magazines were loaded vertically into the dispensers. The dispensers had motor-driven pawls that ejected the chaff bundles. The chaff bundles came in small cardboard packets that were torn open by a small "tooth" when the bundle was ejected. 

[

Son Of Medicine Man

So back to the chaff dispensers, this chaff then was like the chaff they used in WWII, aluminum, to confuse radar?

Ken


 
Yup, although much more sophisticated. Instead of plain aluminimum strips, the chaff now is mylar strips coated with alluminum. Much thinner and stronger. It is cut to different lengths depending on the frequency of the signals you want to jam - longer for lower frequences and shorter for higher frequencies. Some of the lower frequency chaff is 8-10 ft long and actually can cause power outages if they get across high power lines. The very high frequency chaff is around an inch long and very narrow - like what you get from a shredder.]

The next step will be to prime the fuselage and wings. After that, I will assemble the aircraft. But before I can do that, I need to build the diorama base so I have someplace to park this monster Stick out tongue.

Cheers,

Russ 

 

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:42 AM

Bockscar

Russ;

Honoured i was mentioned by you, and Ken no-doubt feels the same.

I have a few hints if you want to PM, but that is a great build and

I'll try to keep up. I like your 'Open Concept,' I hope it

doesn't to much pressure on you to 'super detail'.

Dom

Hi, Dom,

Any hints, tips or comments would be much appreciated bud! Please post them here so others can benefit from your suggestions.

As for the "open concept" (thanks for the term!) not much more detail I can add now except blast curtains. At least I don't have to worry about scratching the canopies! Big Smile.

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:32 AM

Hi, Dogfish7, and welcome!

Lol haven't heard them called that in a long time! That was pretty much an in-country term Big Smile. I was stationed at Nha Trang in 71, not too far south of Da Nang.

Thanks for stopping by!

Russ

 

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Posted by Dogfish_7 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:51 AM

Facinating build! Was stationed at Da Nang in 68 with the 366th TAC Support Group. We didn't have the Monkey Killers in there very much:)

Bruce

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:29 PM

Russ;

Honoured i was mentioned by you, and Ken no-doubt feels the same.

I have a few hints if you want to PM, but that is a great build and

I'll try to keep up. I like your 'Open Concept,' I hope it

doesn't to much pressure on you to 'super detail'.

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 9, 2012 9:19 PM

Hi, All,

I decided to build up the front canopy as I did the gunner's canopy, and take Ken & Dom's suggestions to leave off the clear panels and just leave the canopies open - at this scale, it really doesn't look bad and you can certainly see the details better. Since there will be a cover over the entire diorama, dust shouldn't be a problem.

Below are photos of the canopy under construction and finished - it's not painted yet but I plan to prime the entire fuselage soon. I used the front part of the original canopy as a template and taped the pieces of the frame to it, then glued them at the joints.

Cheers,

Russ

 

Tags: B-52D , canopy , cockpit

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:53 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Thank you Russ!  I have added this to the long list of details you have already pointed out on this build.  You are doing a great job detailing this aircraft and documenting it for everyone's benefit here.  Thank you for spending the time sharing it with us!

Ken

 
Thanks for the good words, Ken! Big Smile. And you're more than welcome, bud. It's my pleasure.
 
Russ

 

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