Mate, I'm just so impressed with the way this thing callenges you and you keep pressing on. It's all looking great to me and it's such a cool idea.

Looks good from here too! 

Greg

 

 

CapnMac82

So, for 2¢, if it looks like wood to you, it looks like wood to me too.

 

 

That is going down as the philosophical quote of the day. I love it.

 

Right? It's awesome!

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

teak stain looks richer

 

 

How to paint things "like wood" is one of those subjective rabbit holes with many entrances, and few, if any, destinations.

Wood is a vexing thing for not being a uniform color.  Plain white maple can be staineed to look like cherry.  Bleached ebony can look like sebrawood (a common scam in knife scale blanks).  And, of course, the color wood turns when left out in the sun is extremely hard to render.

So, for 2¢, if it looks like wood to you, it looks like wood to me too.

It might look more like box elder than spalted maple to my eye--but, it's still wood. 

Teak is vexing, though.  It can really resemble tea--as in being greenish, brownish, hints of black, and the like.  It was very annoying to try and get thwarts to match when I was building Boat #1.

Both of the samples are good, the one is a tad "warmer" as shown, but will likely be darker when inverted and used as a ceiling.  Your choice will be the winner.

 

Wow Captain, you absolutely NAILED IT. This is why I said that I am okay with both test pieces. Because hey, it's subjective. Who is to say that Nemo didn't use white pine and he applied a clear? Lol. But for this project, I agree with others the darker color will aesthetically look best. Nemo is an extravagant guy, a somewhat richer look should fit the bill.  

Thanks Everyone for your feedback. I didn't expect it, and it's much appreciated.

CapnMac82

So, for 2¢, if it looks like wood to you, it looks like wood to me too.

That is going down as the philosophical quote of the day. I love it.

Bakster

teak stain looks richer

How to paint things "like wood" is one of those subjective rabbit holes with many entrances, and few, if any, destinations.

Wood is a vexing thing for not being a uniform color.  Plain white maple can be staineed to look like cherry.  Bleached ebony can look like sebrawood (a common scam in knife scale blanks).  And, of course, the color wood turns when left out in the sun is extremely hard to render.

So, for 2¢, if it looks like wood to you, it looks like wood to me too.

It might look more like box elder than spalted maple to my eye--but, it's still wood. 

Teak is vexing, though.  It can really resemble tea--as in being greenish, brownish, hints of black, and the like.  It was very annoying to try and get thwarts to match when I was building Boat #1.

Both of the samples are good, the one is a tad "warmer" as shown, but will likely be darker when inverted and used as a ceiling.  Your choice will be the winner.

Greg

The roof looks good and the weathered look appears convincing to me.

Greg

Re your roof painting troubles, don't you just love it how just about the time you think you're starting to get a handle on airbrushing, it goes and throws a curve ball at you? I've had that happen so many times, and I suspect many more to come.

Right?  I thought I was past that. Foolish me. That is what I get by adding a different AB into the mix, and one that might have a bad needle bearing. Jury is out on that. This was the start of all the trouble. Then going back to my old reliable-- I was getting a different problem-- orange peel. I can't explain it. Probably a slight change in the back and forth settings that got me.

Anyhow-- I got through it and that is what counts. Cheers!    Gulp gulp gulp..

Greg

I like the teak ceiling.

Survey says... teak!

The concensus is teak. I am going with the teak!

The roof looks good and the weathered look appears convincing to me.

Re your roof painting troubles, don't you just love it how just about the time you think you're starting to get a handle on airbrushing, it goes and throws a curve ball at you? I've had that happen so many times, and I suspect many more to come.

I like the teak ceiling.

Tanker-Builder

To Be Honest:

   The darker piece looks good to promote a shadow effect with the lighter being the surface in bright sunlight!

 

Exactly. Also, the ceiling will not be exposed to direct sunlight as the roof will be. It will surely feel some heat with it being closed up, and that can dry the wood, but it shouldn't bleach the finish like the piece exposed to direct sunlight.

To Be Honest:

   The darker piece looks good to promote a shadow effect with the lighter being the surface in bright sunlight!

steve5

I'm with you steve , the teak does look richer , but I started thinking , with the one on the right , some very light dry brushing with a slightly darker brown , might give it some grain and depth . 

 

Hey Steve, thanks for responding and for your opinion. You are the second person pointing to the teak. The other was off line.

That is a good point about the dry brushing. I will keep that as an option as well.

Cheers!

I'm with you steve , the teak does look richer , but I started thinking , with the one on the right , some very light dry brushing with a slightly darker brown , might give it some grain and depth . 

A few weeks back I went to HT in search of wood colored paint. Tamiya makes a flavor I wanted but I was stymied to see they didn't stock it. Looking further they had Vallejo wood, but I did not like the shade. It sort of looked like white pine, too light for my taste. About to give up I turn the corner to find Revell's line of paint. They had something called Ochre. The shade looked decent but--I have not used their paints and I hated to start in the middle of a project. I talked to one of the guys and he hadn't tried it either. Sigh. Not feeling like wasting more time searching, I pulled the trigger and purchased it. 

The paint is extremely thick.

I pressed on. I did some research and one reviewer claimed good result thinning with IPA. For grins, I tried using Tamiya X20A with a drop of retarder. The paint sprayed nicely. It covered well, laid down flat, while showing little sign of grain. I did have to watch the needle though. I had seen some paint build up. The short of this is that the paint shows potential. I might work with it more.

Below:

The ceiling is painted and is yet untreated. Below it are two test pieces. The left treated with teak wood stain, the right is treated with vandyke artist oil. Though the images make both look blotchy, in real life they look better. I suspect I compressed the images too much.

To my eye the teak stain looks richer and with more consistent coverage than the artist oil but-- they both look acceptable to me. I am still on the fence which way I will go. It might come down to which will present fewer issues with masking and/or with accepting another layer of paint. Not sure what issues stain might present on the latter.

And that is where I am at.

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

This then led me to the internet.

 

 

We have so many resources available out there, and the range and scope can still amaze me.

 

So true. And the Model RR guys are some of the best in terms weathering, sculpting, you name it.

Bakster

This then led me to the internet.

We have so many resources available out there, and the range and scope can still amaze me.

steve5

looking good steve

 

Hey thanks Steve o.

looking good steve

Here is the thread I mentioned.

https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/22478?page=8

Tanker-Builder

I do know of some stuff in 1/48.

      Would the large parts in that scale work? If so try Hobby Builders Supply and Miniatures.Com in Atlanta, Ga.30340-3252

Phone , 1-800-926-6464. They have some flags and banners too.

 

The Roof

I had some setbacks. I had AB issues leading to excessive orange peel. I wet sanded and unfortunately the prolonged exposure to water led to the paint not feathering correctly, ultimately, leading to paint bubbling. It was a do over. I had to strip the paint and start over.  

The redo:

1. Primed with Tamiya Gray Fine Surfce Primer. Then wet sanded.

2. Paint was a mix Tamiya green and white to get the hue I wanted. Then wet sanded being careful to wipe excess water.

The weathering:

This is close to what I was looking for. 

My vision for the roof is to have an oxidized look. I envision the carriage being bleached from the desert sun. There is more to this theme and one of these days I will post the story.

My initial plan to achieve what I wanted did not work out. That plan was to spray copious amounts of IPA on the color coat and that would cause the paint to fade and turn chalky. I have done this process on another build and that was the outcome. For some reason, it had almost zero effect here. 

This then led me to the internet. I found a Model RR thread on the subject, and they had many options to offer. The one I settled on is a modified version and is as follows:

1. Apply a layer of Dullcote.

2. Mix Dullcote with a small amount of white and a small amount of the base color. Spray to liking.

3. Mix Dullcote with a small amount of white and spray to liking.

4. I gave it a final dry sand to smooth out the surface and to blend the various layers.

Now I am working on the ceiling piece. More on that probably not too far off.

I do know of some stuff in 1/48.

      Would the large parts in that scale work? If so try Hobby Builders Supply and Miniatures.Com in Atlanta, Ga.30340-3252

Phone , 1-800-926-6464. They have some flags and banners too.

Gamera

Lol, awesome stories guys!

 

I had a battery powered submarine back when I was a bit younger. Tied to a fishing line and let her cruise out into a local lake. Had a couple guys tell me later that they thought it was a bass trolling along just under the surface and that they thought about throwing their lines out to it!

 

Good one cliff. Now if only that sub could spit water at them as you circle. That would be fun.

Tanker-Builder

   I'll bet there's a lot of One on One with Dad stories and Hobbies, out the

Indeed.

Tanker-Builder

. I just thought of something too! For your curtains and tassels you could use Doll House tasseled pillows Add Quote to your

Maybe so TB but everything I see for dollhouses at the local HL or Michaels are too large out of scale..

Lol, awesome stories guys!

I had a battery powered submarine back when I was a bit younger. Tied to a fishing line and let her cruise out into a local lake. Had a couple guys tell me later that they thought it was a bass trolling along just under the surface and that they thought about throwing their lines out to it!

Hey:

   I'll bet there's a lot of One on One with Dad stories and Hobbies, out there. With my Foster Dad( I still Miss Him) it was Lionel Trains and Woodshop creations. I just thought of something too! For your curtains and tassels you could use Doll House tasseled pillows

2 nice stories guys

Fun story, TB. It is one of those fun moments in a persons childhood.

I think what I miss about childhood most is the wonder of it all. At times, its seeming like a dream. Everything was a wonder. Food tasted better, the air was sweeter, the sun more conforting, the toys more astounding, and stories are more captivating.

One of the very few times my Dad did a one on one activity with me ended up being one for the books. Out of nowhere he decides to build a model plane. Only, I watched, and he built. And that was fine because I had no clue what he was doing.

He finds a styrofoam tray that ground beef comes on and he proceeds to cut out an airframe. The wings, tail, the whole smack. The main wing is one piece inserted through a slit in the main body. The tail is similarly made and assembled. Then he bends the wing surface to give it lift. He then ties a string to the nose and we go outside. The other side of the string is anchored to the ground via a stick and he proceeds to toss the plane into the air. And what do you know, the plane hung in the air like a kite. I was amazed. 

That plane hung in the air for hours, pretty much until evening when the wind died down. The next day, I went out and tossed it in the air and there it went. It flew for hours. What a great toy. Eventually, like all toys, they lose their luster in our search to find the next great thing. I imagine it ended up in the garbage or run over by a lawnmower. A few years later I tried to duplicate what he did and heck, my plane didn't have the magic to stay aloft. That was one magical plane he built.

I Thought!

        There was an incident when I was twelve. I had gotten Lindberg's Chris Craft Constellation for my birthday. I built it according to the instructions with the cardboard interior and a rudimentary R/C system. In looking for a place to sail it(We didn't have a Pool) I saw this beautiful fountain outside of a Building under construction. ( there was no fence around the site).

       The fountain was lit and functioning in the center of a curved finished driveway in front of the building. So, I took my Connie and carefully set it in my bicycle Basket( I had a large one( Paper Route, ya Know!) And pedaled my behind over there. She was cruising around the spurters that sent water vertically. I got so engrossed I didn't see a grown Up come up in the dark.

       " What are you Doing" was The comment that almost had me Filling the nether end of my pants! There was this man standing there watching me. "That's a beautiful Boat" he then says. " May I see it?" "Sshure" was my fumbling reply. Turns out I wasn't in trouble. Someone had called him and told him about me being there. He was the Production Supervisor for the then new Studio for Channel 5 - T.V. in West Palm Beach, Florida

 I wound up on a Kids saturday morning Show for one interview, with my boat. Dad was Livid! Til he found out what it was all about, and they would pay me! Then it was okay, Because I would miss Saturday Paper delivery! That's the only money I got and he would let me keep ten dollars of it a week. The Rest HAD to go in a Savings Account!

Tanker-Builder

 Well, on your last comment, After I forgot to finish mine, LOL!LOL! Sorry about that, One letter of the Alphabet does not an answer make.

Hey TB--LOL. No. This was NOT your mistake, it was mine. For some reason when I pasted your comment only the K came through. The apolgy is mine to give. Sorry for the confusion.

It sounds like you had some guidance on the clear plastic and such. Not to sound like a pity party-- but when not working his fulltime job-- my Dad would hide in the garage managing pet projects, and my Mom was too busy handling five hungry kids. Having loose parental reign was not entirely bad I guess. My brother tells me I was seldom home. And when I think about it -- I think he is right. I found ways to entertain myself since the parents seldom did. Lol. It's a minor miracle I didn't get into trouble, in soooo many ways. Thank you Lord. Phew. 

Hi:

     Well, on your last comment, After I forgot to finish mine, LOL!LOL! Sorry about that, One letter of the Alphabet does not an answer make. Anyway, When I was little I got shuffled from Florida to Western New York Twice a year. Money was non existant in N.Y. and almost so in Fla.

      I built ships as I have described before as fountain finds, With typing paper overlays to cover the B.B.Holes! paint them Testors Square bottle light grey and shift parts around till the model was restored, Models other than that were gifted. Then I learned how to use paper and cardboard on my models if I wanted to bash them. The idea for the thin plastic that was clear came from one of those ventures. Someone( One of my relatives, maybe) Gave me Revell's 1/32 Mercury Montclair Phaeton 4dr. and of course that was before they put the window plastic in the kits.

       Promise not to laugh! I got this bright idea. Scotch Tape! Remember they didn't have the tape that was frosty yet. I would take a new roll and take a length of it and pull it off the roll. Lay it on a piece of glass shiny side down. Then Carefully put another on top Sticky side down. Very carefully Burnishing the bubbles out. Viola" Window material for model cars and the Revell Tugboat.

       Dad came home one day when I was in the process of doing that( My Foster Dad, That is) Finally got to stay Put! he goes to his dresser and pulls out a new shirt and gives me the plastic insert from the collar! "Try This" He Says "I think it will work better" Well, it sure did. And I had already learned my lesson about glue and clear parts from planes. So, even then I used Elmers liquid school glue to put them in. Plain and simple models were rare enough I couldn't afford to mess them up!

       So you see, that's why I am a proponent of using found material to help on the builds. If you cannot afford it, there is always something out  there that will do the job well, Testors and Pactra didn't have flat paints back then So, we used Talcum Powder to flatten it! The more you put in the flatter it got. But you had to be careful or you might put in to much and all you had then was Talcum Powder colored paste!

      I could go on But, I don't want to bore you. Or commandeer your day