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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:14 PM

To Anyone:

BARV Paint Question?

What is a close color (prefer official FS number) for Royal Navy "Light Sea Grey"?

I would prefer either Tamiya or Model Master.

Thanks.

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:21 PM

Bill - DML has released so many Fireflies, I'm not even sure which set came with your kit. Tongue [:P]

I believe it comes with the T62 style, which is the composite chevron with the three rivets on the face. Personally .... I'd use them. I've probably seen more Fireflies with the T48 Rubber Chevron than I have with T-54's. I don't really recommend the Fruil Sherman tracks ... they're nice but aren't worth the expense. You might want to try a product called RHPS. I've heard very good things about there stuff but haven't tried them myself.

Gave my Ram it's bath last night .... no matter how many times I say that ... it still doesn't sound right !!!!

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:24 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by latch66

To Anyone:

BARV Paint Question?

What is a close color (prefer official FS number) for Royal Navy "Light Sea Grey"?

I would prefer either Tamiya or Model Master.

Thanks.

This is the Armour Forum ..... we don't need no stinking FS Numbers. Mischief [:-,]

Sorry Latch ..... couldn't resist. Tongue [:P]

There's a site that the wingy thingy guys use all the time for FS numbers ... can't remember the url but I think it was IPMS Stockholm that had it.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:25 PM

Robert,

I got one of the first sets which RHPS made. They are the T51's.

I am not that happy with them. They have a sink mark on both the outerface and the innerface of the track block. This is on just about every link.

Maybe I just got a bad set.

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:26 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by latch66

Robert,

I got one of the first sets which RHPS made. They are the T51's.

I am not that happy with them. They have a sink mark on both the outerface and the innerface of the track block. This is on just about every link.

Maybe I just got a bad set.

Well I this note ..... use the DML tracks Bill .... why should I have to make up these indy sets and you get off easy !!!! [:0] Wink [;)]

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:26 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by shermanfreak

QUOTE: Originally posted by latch66

To Anyone:

BARV Paint Question?

What is a close color (prefer official FS number) for Royal Navy "Light Sea Grey"?

I would prefer either Tamiya or Model Master.

Thanks.

This is the Armour Forum ..... we don't need no stinking FS Numbers.

Sorry Latch ..... couldn't resist.

There's a site that the wingy thingy guys use all the time for FS numbers ... can't remember the url but I think it was IPMS Stockholm that had it.

LOL!!

Robert!

It does need to be at least close to the proper color!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:26 PM

Nooooooo! Things keep going from bad to worse. I took out my airbrush and compressor to work on a school model, it was either corroded or sabotaged by my mom (she says that it's too big and makes too much noise), but it wouldn't hold air. Black Eye [B)]

Just MY luck. But the other day I did notice my local hobby store was having a sale on NEW compressors. Big Smile [:D]

But even if I do get a new one, I can't build my M10 until next the weekend. I have to study for finals (all next week) and have two major projects!! AAHHHH Dead [xx(]

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:29 PM

Don't worry scubaboy .... lot's of time for the build. Get your schooling taken care of so you can get a high paying job to support your plastic addiction !!!

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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RAF120

Member since
March 2003
From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike

Posted by RAF120 on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:43 PM

Well I got back early from Vermont today and it was so nice of them to turn the heat down for my visit (below 0 the whole time I was there)
Now I hope no one gets too mad but I started a little early (like monday).
My only excuse is that it is very boring sitting in a hotel at night. Sigh [sigh]

Am I fogiven?

Only got the lower hull done, if that helps. Shy [8)]

Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

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M1abramsRules

Member since
June 2003

Posted by M1abramsRules on Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:58 PM

I am oficially started!!!!!! man, this kit fits like a dream!!!! Academy is a very good company from what I've seen so far.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:04 PM

QUOTE: I am oficially started!!!!!! man, this kit fits like a dream!!!! Academy is a very good company from what I've seen so far.

I have to say the Jackson is going together without a hassle. A fine job so far by Academy!

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:15 PM

Well .... seeing as we're talking progress.

Working on cleaning up the tracks for both of my builds ..... using the kit tracks for both vehicles.
The DML indy set for the Firefly Banged Head [banghead]

And the Ram comes with a link and length set of tracks .......... but with individual end connectors all made out of resin. Censored [censored]

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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Buddho

Member since
March 2003
From: Newport News VA

Posted by Buddho on Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:37 PM

Not much progress here...I painted the wheels and looked at the individual tracks....nice detail but I hope I don't lose too many teeth in the building process!

Regards, Dan

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:23 PM

Latch - was looking at a couple of ships tonight that were painted in Tamiya XF-54 Dark Sea Grey. That one looks pretty close to the colour you need.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:30 PM

Thanks Robert,

I'll check it out.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:33 PM

I just found this web sight that has great photos for almost every tank used in WWII. There are tons of photos for the Sherman and its variants.

www.wwiivehicles.com

Its perfect research for any WWII armor model you'll ever do! Big Smile [:D]

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Keyworth

Member since
January 2003
From: NE Georgia

Posted by Keyworth on Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:03 PM

Got my hull built. Will start on the interior tomorrow or over the weekend.

"There's no problem that can't be solved with a suitable application of high explosives"

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mark956

Member since
February 2003
From: USA

Posted by mark956 on Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:27 PM

Darn it. I will not be able to do anything unil late Friday or early Saturday.
mark956

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gnsnow

Member since
January 2003
From: Denton, TX

Posted by gnsnow on Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:04 PM

I need some help with specific markings (reference photos would be extra nice!!!). Ofcourse, I'm still working the lower hull, but I like to do my research before I need it. The Sherman I'm building is for a vet that was in 5th battallion, 16th division, company C out of Camp Chaffee from early '43 to late '44. I'm also adding an M5 to the diorama (should it be an M5A1?) and some help with those markings would be much appreciated as well.

Thanks in advance!

"Artists who seek perfection in everything are those who can attain it in nothing."
- Eugène Delacroix

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M1abramsRules

Member since
June 2003

Posted by M1abramsRules on Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:10 PM

I had a very funny occurence, I did a lttle bit of painting (white), and I didn't like the way it was coming, so I cleaned it all off with thinner. I then washed it with water (and a tad of soap) and when it dried, it frosted the plastic completely white, except for where there was a bit of glue hanging around.

what caused this?

also the funny thing is: its the perfect color too. Wink [;)]

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dostacos

Member since
December 2003
From: Los Angeles

Posted by dostacos on Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:22 PM

I am still waiting for my tank to arrive! I am NOT a happy camper!

Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!

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renarts

Member since
April 2003
From: Sunny Florida

Posted by renarts on Friday, January 16, 2004 12:14 AM

Thanks Robert,

Started on mine. The DML M4A4 has some interesting extra parts. Open rimed road wheels and closed rim road wheels. 2 versions of the drive sprocket, a round interior face plate and a scalloped interior face plate. After going over all my references I found the right wheels and faceplates to use.

Had to fill what looked like sink holes on the drive sprocket center plates.
And found one fo those cool detail reference pics that just scream for detail scratchbuilding (happy, happy, joy, joy) a tension spring on the forward hatches. (I love finding stuff like that...). Kind of anticllimactic start (spent my time referencing and filling) but I did manage to glue a couple of pieces tonight.

Mike

Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 7:35 AM

ROBERT! You've cracked me up twice here already this morning. First with the 'Principal's' car Laugh [(-D]

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THEN with the FS number quote.... reminded me of the bandito in the Treasure of Sierra Madre "FS numbers? We don't need no stinkin' FS numbers!"

Brought glue today, but might not get to build. I have gotten a lot of the resin ready, done some cutting to open up the access plates and get the turret ring to be closer to the right diameter for the interior and dry fit a lot of stuff.

WAIT! I'm IN for the study hall schedule today!! I think I'll bring the kit to study hall and put bogie assemblies together... the glue smell drives the kids nuts, which gives me a real warm fuzzy during the last class on a Friday! (take a class kids, not a study hall! moowahahaha!)...

Ron Big Smile [:D]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 7:42 AM

I don't know Ron some of those little hoodlums might come sit next to teacher...take a big wiff and see what your up to... Mischief [:-,]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 9:31 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by shermanfreak
Frosty - send me your e-mail

Robert: u can e-mail the pix to me c/o: film_shipping@moma.org
just put 'for frosty' in the header & my buddies there will forward 'em 2 my mom.
thanx again !
frosty Smile [:)]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 9:39 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Poniatowski

ROBERT! You've cracked me up twice here already this morning. First with the 'Principal's' car,

THEN with the FS number quote.... reminded me of the bandito in the Treasure of Sierra Madre "FS numbers? We don't need no stinkin' FS numbers!"

Brought glue today, but might not get to build. I have gotten a lot of the resin ready, done some cutting to open up the access plates and get the turret ring to be closer to the right diameter for the interior and dry fit a lot of stuff.

WAIT! I'm IN for the study hall schedule today!! I think I'll bring the kit to study hall and put bogie assemblies together... the glue smell drives the kids nuts, which gives me a real warm fuzzy during the last class on a Friday! (take a class kids, not a study hall! moowahahaha!)...

Ron

i dunno about that last 1.... if it weren't 4 study hall, i'd hardly ever get 2 be here ! Tongue [:P]

still, u keep crackin' me up... Cool [8D]

hey, if i could b in ur study hall, would u let me work on my sherman ? Big Smile [:D]

then there'd b twice the glue smell ! Evil [}:)]

LOL !
frosty Smile [:)]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 11:23 AM

Frosty,

I've told students that model making is great for study hall. I think it builds spacial (spatial? spacl...??) perception (can you tell I'm not an English teacher?) and helps with a lot of other cognitive processes. Model making is great for the brain... if you're not sniffin' the ol' glue! My best art metals students are often model makers.

Hey, that e address... is that to the MOMA as in Museum of Modern Art? If so very, very cool place!!

Ron

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 11:40 AM

Ron P. :
yep, that's the rite MoMA...
it is a cool place, no stuarts in the collection but there is a very nice
sikorsky helo !
i love hanging out here... (no school today due 2 snow & cold !)
frosty Smile [:)]

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wipw

Member since
January 2003
From: Utah - USA

Posted by wipw on Friday, January 16, 2004 12:09 PM

Robert, this is part of the review of the new DML Firefly posted on the Perth Military Modeling Society site:

QUOTE: The track is entirely individual links with the end connectors separate, you also get alternate end connectors with duckbill extensions although these are a little on the thick side. The tracks appear to be T62 steel block with the three studs on the face as well as a pin ejector mark on each pad. You could convert this to the more common T54 Steel Block by removing the studs at the same time as dealing with the pin mark, in any case the tracks are going to take a few hours to assemble.

I just hate dealing with ejector pin marks. I'd do just about anything to get away form that. Oh well. Thanks for the reply!

Bill ==========================================================

DML M4A2 Red Army ==========================================================

========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 1:03 PM

Frosty,

Last off topic for me here, apologies to the rest of y'all. Last time I was in the MOMA, they had an 'Art of Industrial Design' display. I asked where the tank was... The docent chuckled and said, "This isn't a military museum." "hmmmm." I replied (small 'h' and all).. "Form follows Function. Looks like your curator skipped a beat here."

Oh well, so much for modern armor being considered art. Wait a couple of centuries!

Ron

Study hall's next! Model is ready! Stay warm! The coldest I've ever been in was -35 degrees F, with a -60 wind chill (8 hours of solid airport line work... yech.). Summer compared to what you have out there from what I've heard!

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