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ME-262: Reich Defender II 10/09-7/10

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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:44 PM
 razordws wrote:

  Why is Frank harping on Corsair seatbelts??? Confused [%-)]

I cant believe you didnt see the my Corsair Build  Crying 2 That hurt man, really hurt. Like a knife to my heart.......Gutted. Have i made hime feel guilty enough yet?


Patton, im not sure what bits you mean? Can you do a diagram or picture.

...Guy




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Posted by Summit on Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:09 PM

Guy - I am so wanting that resin pit you built Tongue [:P] Wow that looks incredible ...  The reference pic I had showed those gauges outlined in red and yellow. I so wanted to do that but I felt I used all my mojo on the dry~brushing of the details. 

 Thanks to All -  that has commented on the Mono 262..Smile [:)]  I hope I havent set your expectations to high by making a few bits..  

Slow progress today, got the fuse halfs joined - great fit Thumbs Up [tup]

Been looking at those cigar shaped things wondering where the pros are and why they are missing from the kit Dunce [D)]

Dave - I can  blame the scratch~building on Aaron since he is not here to claim otherwise. It all had to do with a simple OOB ship build last month.....

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by gspatton44 on Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:18 PM
Thanks for the reply. The parts I am talking about are the semi-circlular pieces at the front (nose) and back (tail) of the cockpit assembly in the second and third pictures of your post. I hope this helps identify them. Agian I would like to know the approximate diameter of this piece across the wide part and the length of the flat the flat portion across the top.

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:12 PM

I have not yet begun my 262 but have begun scouring the net for reference photos and have been following the on-going builds here.  From what I've been able to find, the 262 had forward wing slats that automatically extended when it got to a certain slow speed, and these slats were extended when it was parked.

The Tamiya kit doesn't replicate this feature, but I've found the following product at Squadron and Sprue Brothers that seems to solve this issue:

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=WG0002

I've never heard of this manufacturer, Wingz USA.  Has anyone used their products for other builds?  The one review I found of this recommended it but said there are no installation instructions.  I suppose I could work without that but it's better to have instructions than not when dealing with unfamiliar products.  I guess I'm also a slight bit hestitant to take a razor saw to a perfectly good set of Tamiya wings, but I've done it before, so I could certainly do it again.

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Posted by Summit on Friday, October 16, 2009 12:17 PM

Pretty quiet here the last few days....

Once again I attempted to assemble the 30 mm and got side tracked. Thats how I ended up with a new nose gear well..  Not bad representations of the cannons in the monogram molding. Should show off at least one side .  I grabbed the razor saw and cut the cowling along the hinge line. Gluing plastic to plastic in a open position never looks right. So I thought a groove with a piece of wire layed in it would at least look better. But wait If I am going to add wire why not make it functional right ? So this is where I am at today.

Photobucket Someday I might get to work on those cannons..

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, October 16, 2009 3:03 PM

Aaron, sorry to hear about your back.

I've had a bad back on and off for the last 5 years or so, nothing as major as your problems, but I always go to osteopath, who soon gets me sorted.

It was my doctor who sent me to them in the first place, as he didn't beleive there was much he could for my back.

Hope you get it sorted soon.

Guy, sweet looking pit.

I think profile no.2 for that NMF and putty nose.

I'm going to have to give Telford a miss after forking out £500 yesterday after a particularly heavy service on the car.Disapprove [V]

Sean, seeing as you are making the hinge work, how about the cannon?Wink [;)]

Great work.

Karl

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, October 16, 2009 4:22 PM

Sean you are definately filling the illustrious boots of the Sarge, on his drug addled time out. Your a machine with these old kits. I loved the work you did on the nose leg and im sure this canon door work is going to be equally great. Makes my stuff seem easy by comparison. Geez, hundreds have probably done what i intend to. Keep it up big boy.

Patton, I think this might be the info you need. If not, give me a shout and ill do what i can. Luckilly i have the kit piece, which is identical to the resin lovelies,

I got the sides on the fuse together and the UC bay goes in a treat,

Still got a few doodads to go in yet.

...Guy

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Posted by Summit on Friday, October 16, 2009 4:51 PM
 KJ200 wrote:

Sean, seeing as you are making the hinge work, how about the cannon?Wink [;)]


 

Well I happen to have some black powder, only problem would be having to load it like a musket ..

Guy -  I have been dragging my feet for days waiting for you to post a pic of the wheel wells so I can copy the do~dads Wink [;)]  Very nice Indeed, I am really liking your project.

My work is pretty old school, I just work with what I have in hand. I dont have much luck finding aftermarket goodies, then if I do I get sticker shock Shock [:O]

I think Sarges boots would be pretty hard for me to fill, but there is a wild critter running around here in the Pacific North West that could....

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Spike190 on Friday, October 16, 2009 5:47 PM

Some superb work going on here fellas.

Aaron I'm so sorry to hear of your back trouble, I can only send you my best wishes for a very speedy recovery. Your work on the 262 has been splendid so far.

Sean I love what your doing with your scratch building , very impressive, I eagerly await the next installment!

Guy, lovely progress, I'm so tempted by that Aires cockpit but I must resist the temptation! The paint job is excellent.

I know plenty of others have been putting in some great work to. I'm itching to get going on mine after looking through these posts but I'm not getting any bench time at the mo Banged Head [banghead].

Keep up the good work Big Smile [:D]

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, October 16, 2009 6:06 PM
Sean and Guy- Kudos to you chaps, providing us eye candy and inspiration!  I am hoping to start mine soon, but have to finish a few builds first.  At my pace, sure hope I get them done yet this year so I have a fighting chance to finish my -262 before the GB ends! Sigh [sigh]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Summit on Friday, October 16, 2009 6:31 PM

Frank - I guess you were not aware of Rule # 7 ~ Anyone hosting a GB must push aside other projects to currently be building the Model for said Group Build.

I looked it up from a reliable source... Whistling [:-^]

Sheesch  - I just realized I never posted pics of the Front Well after paint.

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And the cannons are painted ready for some solenoid wiring.

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Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, October 16, 2009 6:39 PM
 Summit wrote:

Frank - I guess you were not aware of Rule # 7 ~ Anyone hosting a GB must push aside other projects to currently be building the Model for said Group Build.

I looked it up from a reliable source... Whistling [:-^]

DANG!  Missed that rule. Disapprove [V]  Guess I shall have to rememdy that!  May be a while though, won't have another day off for a week. Sigh [sigh]

Excellent work on the gear well!  Amazing what a little extra work will do.  All eyes are you with this one my friend! Big Smile [:D] 

Frank 

 

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Posted by Summit on Friday, October 16, 2009 10:50 PM

One more tonight of the Cannons. I painted them (30 mm) with RLM 66 then followed up by coloring them with a # 2 penncil. I used my finger to rub/ polish the graphite to a nice metallic sheen. Too bad it does not show up in the picture. Using some .010" brass wire I wired in the solenoids and the cannons. The black "hoses" also do not show very well. Disapprove [V]

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Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, October 17, 2009 3:52 AM

Sean, thats looking great. The extra effort has really paid dividends. Thats the only bummer with my conversion. The nose is a solid lump of resin. The old Dragon U4 kit had a hatch that you could see a rudimentary gun. Now if i was you and not Tom Selleck, id grind the hole out and add one. Damn my good lookingness,

...Guy Tom

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, October 17, 2009 7:26 AM

Hi guys,

I'm watching stunning builds go together here -- Sean, your scratchbuilt detail additions are nothing short of brilliant, that nose gear bay, the strut pivot, you're making that old Monogram kit into a masterpiece! I'll have to do a major read-through and follow up on all these amazing jobs.

I have some progress to report, having finally managed to do the internal detail spraying on the NMF parts, the bulkheads, underside of the cockpit, interior of the main gear bay (now I remember I've not sprayed the nose gear bay, so I'll have to do that in the next session...) plus the engine intakes and exhausts (the latter in a special color mix).

The wing is going together right now, and I should have WIP shots plus more details tomorrow, after the internal detail painting and all is done, and before beginning main assembly.

The Express Mask set for this kit is now on its way, with a bit of luck I'll be at the main painting stage about the time this GB was originally intended to begin!

Cheers,

Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:05 AM

Shock [:O] Sean, that is some slick work there in that cannon bay!  Amazing what some wire and a careful paintjob can do. Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike- We'll be looking forward to those pics! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:38 AM

Summit

Can you elaborate more on what you did there? You painted the guns and bay RLM 66 and then colored with a pencil? What do you mean? Did you use it all over or just in spots? What is the purpose to add wear? The addition of wires is a great touch. What scale is this bird?

Really nice work. I like it alot. I llok forward to see what else you do.

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:45 AM

I just called the LHS and the Revell 1/72 Nightfighter I ordered is in. I hope to go pick it up some time today. 

I was able to find and download the Squadron book for the Me 262 but it had little to nothing on the night fighter and no color photos of paint schemes. Dose anyone here have any helpful links? 

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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Posted by Summit on Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:45 PM

Dirk -  I painted the platform and bulkheads (?) with RLM 02 as it seemed to match some of the color pics for the sheetmetal. (looks better then aluminum IMO) The cannons was painted with RLM 66 a nice dark grey, as black would be to dark. The # 2 pencil I colored everything with the side of the tip I could then used the point for the hard to reach areas.  To rub it out I first used a q-tip which was a mistake as I have cotton hairs everywhere I am still plucking off.  My finger worked better and I rubbed it till it shined which to the eye looks like a natural metal color.

I took another pic to try showing it but it is hard with no natural light. (I live in the PNW - I wont see sunshine till June Laugh [(-D] )

PhotobucketThe scale is 1/48

Thanks All - for commenting. You are starting to put the pressure on now Wink [;)]

I hope I can keep your interest..

Guy / Tom -  what no open hatch ? Shock [:O] Tell me its not so....Boohoo [BH]

Mike - This is a Great old Kit, I am glad Aaron talked me into building it.. I like these older kits as there are no super expectations when they are built. So anything extra you add is icing for the cake.

Frank -  Still no Me 262 on the bench yet ? Thats gonna cost you 60

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Posted by razordws on Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:52 PM

Dirk, the purpose of using the pencil is to rub graphite onto the guns.  The graphite when rubbed on gives it more of a metalic look.  I am doing the nightfighter in 1/72 scale as well in the markings of Red 10 (Hasegawa kit though).  I 'll take a look to see what I have for photos and colour profiles.

Guy, saw your mug over on the RA thread.  Dang you're handsome.  Good thing you live across the pond.  As for your resin masterpiece it is awesome!  Bow [bow]Bow [bow]

Sean, speaking of masterpieces...WOW!!! Shock [:O]

Dave

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Posted by razordws on Saturday, October 17, 2009 1:15 PM
Dirk, check out this page of a museum piece in Germany.

Dave

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Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, October 17, 2009 2:19 PM

Sean, stunning job on the cannon bay.

When do we get to see a test fire?

Karl

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Posted by gspatton44 on Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:11 PM
Thank you Luftwoller. That is exactly what I need. BTW your build is looking great.

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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:18 PM

NP General  Salute thing else you need, just holler.

Due to my shifts, ive not really managed to get a lot done this week. Ive started chopping the flaps out of the wing, so ill post a few before and after shots tomorrow. After football, of course.

...Guy





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Posted by Summit on Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:39 PM

Guy -  Im with you, everyone is home today here so not much done. I did clip off the engine pieces off the sprue.  I am really surprised with the detail Monogram molded in.

Photobucket Wink [;)] Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:56 PM

 razordws wrote:
Dirk, check out this page of a museum piece in Germany.

Thanks razordws for the link. That is the same paint scheme that is in the instructions for my bird. I'm hoping there are other paint schemes (gulp) if not I'm in way over my head... 

 

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:05 PM

Ok guys, I stopped by my LHS and picked up my 262. Here she is...

The Kit

The Parts. There appears to be some nice detail and the panel lines are recessed. For a 1/72 fighter there are a lot of parts. I didn't take a picture of the decal sheet (Flash washes it out) but there is a ton of very small decals that comes with this kit.

The Photo Etch and lots of it

Thanks for looking

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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Posted by Summit on Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:28 PM

 Dirk - That looks like a nice kit, and P/E ~ your a wild man..  I am looking forward to seeing some progress on this one. Thumbs Up [tup]

My bench is such a mess I have been fighting the clutter to keep a 4" x 4" open work area.

Sigh [sigh]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by luftwaffle on Saturday, October 17, 2009 7:08 PM
 Dirkpitt289 wrote:

I just called the LHS and the Revell 1/72 Nightfighter I ordered is in. I hope to go pick it up some time today. 

I was able to find and download the Squadron book for the Me 262 but it had little to nothing on the night fighter and no color photos of paint schemes. Dose anyone here have any helpful links? 

Dirk,

There were only a few 262B night fighters that were ever photographed, all painted similarly.  Here are four of the schemes on this sheet:

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

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Posted by razordws on Saturday, October 17, 2009 7:13 PM

Dirk, can't wait to see what you do with that kit.  I did the Revell 1/72 A-1a kit OOB a couple of years ago and found it to be a really nice build.  That PE set looks sweet. Cool [8D]

Sean, 4"x4" huh?  Better get one of Franks 1/144 scale kits then!  Laugh [(-D]

Well, wife just left for the rest of the evening and the kids are on the Xbox so I'm heading for the airbrush.  Wish me luck.

Dave

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