ME-262: Reich Defender II 10/09-7/10

Daywalker wrote:

Guy- Don't forget to mind rule #6!  Daywalker wrote: ...Only a couple of rules for this one... 6. No Corsair seatbelts on ME-262 seats allowed (this means you Guy!)

I swear i didnt notice that earlier?

...Guy

Luftwoller wrote:

Daywalker wrote: Guy- Don't forget to mind rule #6!  Daywalker wrote: ...Only a couple of rules for this one... 6. No Corsair seatbelts on ME-262 seats allowed (this means you Guy!) I swear i didnt notice that earlier? ...Guy

Aww come on guys !! A Corsair seatbelt harness would make for a cool what if 262 me thinks, geeze.

Butz -   Thanks Yeah good old drybrushing - it had been so long of using that method I had almost forgotten how... Had to break out the # 7 Optivisor for that work...

Aaron -  You know how I am about these old kits , I will always grab one to build then the new "super kits " 

Back to the Monogram 262 ~ As I was dry fitting parts I was looking at the front landing gear housing.... Not to impressive and it looked like more work to dress it up then to build a new one out of scratch.

I made a pattern for the box out of .030" sheet and cut up a bunch of styrene stripsfrom .020" sheet styrene .

I have left the back off until I add some wire to replicate the hydraulic lines .

The fit is good and the gun housing base sits level now

Sean (Or is it Dave) nice job on the scratchbuilt nose wheel bay. A question. How are you going to make the nose leg solid? Does that brass ferule go right through?

...Guy

Sean- that looks nice. Here's a though- you've gone so far, why not build the strut hinge to look the way it really works, rather than copy the kit "socket". It might even be easier, put a horizontal pin thru the sides, and attach the strut to it.

here's a useful link:

http://aircraftwalkaround.hobbyvista.com/me262/ngb1.jpg

bondoman wrote:

Sean- that looks nice. Here's a though- you've gone so far, why not build the strut hinge to look the way it really works, rather than copy the kit "socket". It might even be easier, put a horizontal pin thru the sides, and attach the strut to it.

Thanks Bondo

Ok, easy enough I was about half a step behind on that idea. I was looking at a similar pic in my Squadron Walkaround and was thinking the same. I also went a little rib crazy so quite a few got removed as well.

Summit wrote:

bondoman wrote: Sean- that looks nice. Here's a though- you've gone so far, why not build the strut hinge to look the way it really works, rather than copy the kit "socket". It might even be easier, put a horizontal pin thru the sides, and attach the strut to it. Thanks Bondo Ok, easy enough I was about half a step behind on that idea. I was looking at a similar pic in my Squadron Walkaround and was thinking the same. I also went a little rib crazy so quite a few got removed as well.

Do you guys have room for one more? I would like to throw my hat in the ring with a 1/32 Hasegawa Me 262A-2a if it is not too late.

 I have three questions to pose to the esteemed members of this goup in regards to the AC that I am trying to depict and am wondering if anybody can help me. I have a print of Robert Taylor's "The Bridge at Remagen" and I wouldlike to depict the 262 that is shown or one that was in the same staffel that was involved. After a little research I assume that the AC shown were members of I/KG51 that I think were based at Rhiene on March 17, 1945 when this attack on the bridge occured. Here are my questions:

1. As far as I can tell the topsides were painted Dunkelgrun with Brunviolet splotches. Did the wins have a splinter pattern using these colors?

2. The AC depicted in the painting hasa large white "G" on the side. Is the identification lettering for this AC "9K+GH"

3. Any ideas for finding the werk # for this AC?

 Thanks in advance for any help you guys could give me. 

gspatton - Theres always room for more, Frank will be in a little later to add you to the list..

Monogram 262 ~ I am still messing around in the front wheel well. I decided to replace the front brake hard line... I am not sure what happened to my rule of OOB builds... I think it is Aarons fault this time..

Mike/Ruddratt: It just keeps getting better and better! Great looking pit mate! Keep up the good work.

Sean: Very nice work on the pit. For an old Monogram kit, it has some very nice detail. And your drybrushing makes it look even better. The scratch gear bay looks great as well! Love the added detail.

Guy: For some reason, the pics of the U4s aren't working on my end. Just getting the red X. Could just be my computer but I wouldn't mind seeing them. And didn't "Happy Hunter II" crash in France?

Frank: From the get go I was planning on using Corsair belts in ALL my builds for this GB and you have to go and make it against the rules. I mean they are just so pretty and nice.

Hey all, i went to see my mate Bodge tonight with Big E, Bodge (Andy) went to Euro Millitaire. I really wanted to go but other commitments (Work) meant i couldnt. While looking at all his photos from the show, i saw this one, and thought it may be cool for us to have a look at,

Check out the link for some more great pics,

/forums/1196498/ShowPost.aspx

...Guy

Sean, great work on the gear leg. Never seen that done on a 262 before. Really great stuff.

I managed to get a bit more done on the cockpit of mine today. Heres where im at,

As for the 2 colour schemes not showing up..Wierd, Ill try again,

Im rather liking the 2nd one. Whatcha reckon?

...Guy

#Edit#

Warhammer, yes Happy hunter did crash in France. On its way to Cherbourg to be ferried back to the States. There was a german test pilot flying it at the time and there were rumours (Apparantly unfounded) that he crashed the plane deliberately. Bit rough, if so, as he broke his leg in the bail out.

Sean that is some nice scratch building there. The gear bay and strut camo out great. Nice work.

Guy that pic of that 262 is amazing. Someone has some serious talent there! I like the second pic too with the unpainted nose. A good chance to show off you NMF skills. I really need to get over to the bench. I have all of the major sub assembies painted and ready for construction.

                                                                                               Soulcrusher

I forgot I also had a double-combo kit of 2 Eduard 1/144 ME-262B, in German colours.  4 schemes, 2 of which are radar equiped, with PE for the radar (in 1/144 scale remember!).  Anyway, here's a picture of the kit, with the PE.  If the sprue for the canopy seems weird, it's because it contains 2 canopies, being a double kit, of course!

Now which schemes, or indeed, schemes?  I'll keep the Czech version for another day, or, maybe do two Czech versions (single and double seats).  Decisions, decisions!

Edited to add:  Oh, I'm a dolt, I forgot, I have only enough Czech decals for one aircraft!  Still, a two seater IDF version could be fun (if I can find the decals), or maybe a fictional Jap version, or maybe, or maybe...

Guy: Very nice work on the pit! This is going to be one sweet build. I thought I had read that it crashed in France. There is actually a little excerpt about it in the Osprey book about it now that I look. 

As for the colour schemes, I like the second one as well. Just something about the NMF nose and wavey paint. If you look close though, they are the same bird. The Wk-Nm is just visible in the second pic. And upon closer inspection, the Osprey book also has a pic of the second bird with what looks like Willi Herget inspecting a 50mm round from the gun, and the Wk-Nm from the caption match the one given with the color profile of the top bird; which is also a color profile in the Osprey book.

Mike (Butz)- Right on, glad you got the decision made.  Looking forward to those pics!

Guy- I see you are up to your old tricks!  The paint prolly isn't even dry on that magnificent Corsair, and you're already half way through the Schwalbe.  Great pics from the show too, love those NMF swallows.  I say go for markings option #2 as well.

Sean- Great work on that nosegear well!  Next thing I know, you'll be scratchbuilding entire models!

Jon- to the GB!  I added you to the roster.

And so it begins. I broke sprue tonight and started to assemble the cockpit that I painted on Monday. It has been so long I forgot how nice it is to build a Tamiya kit. The cockpit is mostly assembled. As a precaution I did as i always do and after attaching the bulkheads I layed the cockpit assemble into the fuselage halves and taped it up to make sure everything lines up. I noticed a small gap that would not close up on the bottom of the fuselage right under the front bulkhead. I gave the bulkhead a little push foward and then it lined up perfectly. Man I am glad I gave it a test fit before it dried.

                                                                                            Soulcrusher

 Hey fellows and friends! I am gonna post this here as I think everyon that is involved with my building models and friends here are present are cross connected in some way.

  I am probably going to be rather absent for a bit as my back situation has not improved. Been off work for more than a month now and all the joys that goes with that. Still no light at the end of the rainbow either. Doc today has chosen to up my medication to a significantly stronger level yet again due to my complete inability to rest due to the pain I experience when staying still for too long. It is actually pretty bad and am going for yet more test with a surgical consolt which I am really trying to avoid.

 Parents are coming to visit tomorrow through my Birthday on the 20th of this month. Looking forward to seeing them as all my kids are home as well currently. Probably that will come to an end all to soon as they grow and start there own adventures in life.

 Today also was one of mixed emotions for me.  My # 2 son Shane joined the Army today. He will graduate in June and leave for Basic Training in July. The newest  Airborne Infantryman to train in Fort Benning during the nice cool weather they are famous for in late Summer.  25 years ago almost to the day is when I myself joined and cannot help but feel the mixed emotions of pride and anquish at the thought of what I have experienced and what he has to look forward to in the future. Proud ? Oh yes but sometimes I think the 21 years I spent in Combat Arms was enough to count for my familys contribution. That is probably just the father in me worrying cuz what trouble could possibly befall an Airborne Grunt?  Long training though goes all the way into December.

Well I'll be around to read e-mails  at the very least and keep my eyes an all of you!

 Just wanted to let you know what was happening in case things get a bit busy round here the next week or so! Thanks!  Aaron

gspatton44 wrote:

Do you guys have room for one more? I would like to throw my hat in the ring with a 1/32 Hasegawa Me 262A-2a if it is not too late.  I have three questions to pose to the esteemed members of this goup in regards to the AC that I am trying to depict and am wondering if anybody can help me. I have a print of Robert Taylor's "The Bridge at Remagen" and I wouldlike to depict the 262 that is shown or one that was in the same staffel that was involved. After a little research I assume that the AC shown were members of I/KG51 that I think were based at Rhiene on March 17, 1945 when this attack on the bridge occured. Here are my questions: 1. As far as I can tell the topsides were painted Dunkelgrun with Brunviolet splotches. Did the wins have a splinter pattern using these colors? 2. The AC depicted in the painting hasa large white "G" on the side. Is the identification lettering for this AC "9K+GH" 3. Any ideas for finding the werk # for this AC?  Thanks in advance for any help you guys could give me.

Some tough questions, difficult to say if Mr. Taylor had a hard reference or was using some artistic license. IRT to your questions:

1. Most of the KG 51 birds that I've seen had a base of 82 with 83 mottling over the upper surfaces. This could have been carried on to the wings or the splinter pattern, impossible to say without a photo.

2.  Yes, the 9K and the H would be in small black lettering (if it was present).

3. No idea about the W.Nr. but 9K+FH was W.Nr.111825 so it should be pretty close to that.

Aaron- Sorry to hear about the medical problems, hope they're sorted out soon. 

Congrats to your son, gotta be proud he's following in Dad's footsteps!

Guy- Looking awesome there my friend!

Aaron, I'm sorry to hear that your back is not improving.  I went through it all about a year and a half ago when I injured my back and I think I have a pretty good idea of what you must be going through.  Hopefully the docs can figure it out and get you back on your feet.  Surgery is never attractive but sometimes it is necessary.  Just remember whose fault it is and get well! 

Mike, that Trumpeter kit looks fantastic and you're doing an awesome job on it. 

Sean, up to your old tricks again eh?  Pretending to do an OOB build and then scratching the entire build from start to finish.  Looking good! 

Guy, that is an awesome diorama that you posted the pic of.  Someone really went all out on that one.  The resin pit is looking awesome too.  Why is Frank harping on Corsair seatbelts???

I've been very busy lately and haven't had much bench time.  Hope to get to the paint job on my nightfighter soon.

Great work by all going on and I have just managed to break the seal on my box, hope to get building soon.

Aaron, very sorry to hear of your back problems getting worse buddy, hope the Docs get you straightened out soon and back to normal routine again. I know you will be looking in and commenting. Be well friend. Be proud of your son, I know I am.

Steve

Sarge PM inbound!

                                                                                          Soulcrusher

Aaron,

Man, I am so sorry to hear that you are still not getting any relief from that back pain!  That has got to be one of the worst feelings, where you cannot even rest without causing more pain.  Really hope you are able to get some relief soon.  Perhaps we will have to recruit an entire team of nurses to come down to TX to take care of you.

PM inbound.

Luftwoller wrote:

That looks like the same gun that was on the later model He 129's. That is very very cool.

Aaron, that bums me out to no end. Back pain is the worst, and I feel for ya. Great GB here with lots of fine peeps, but you'll be missed, that's for sure. Sending positive vibes your way, buddy!

Sean, stunning work on the monogram kit! I'll be watching this one closely! Keep up the awesome work!

Guy, all I can say is that I've run out of superlatives. Great work on the 'pit and the wheel bay (and you may owe me some CA too - I'm getting tired of gluing my jaw back in place from hitting the floor every time you post an update!). Incredible stuff!!

Thanks Luftwaffle for your input. My thoughts on the paint job was to apply a splinter pattern on the wings and the mottling on the fuselage w/o splinter. Like you said hard to tell without good reference pics but I think given the way the germans did their camo this probably what they did.

As for the werk # I still have plenty of time to research photos and other references to try to find the number I am looking for or just use 9K+FH with its werk #.

Again many thanks for your input.