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ME-262: Reich Defender II 10/09-7/10

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:04 AM

Sarge, she is really starting to look the part.  I was expecting finished photos by now though!!! Wink [;)]

I got the canopy masked and on and then sprayed a base coat on it.  Discovered a lot of my seams were not up to snuff so I got out the Mr. Surfacer and did some more sanding and then re-sprayed the base coat.  I went with a tamiya RLM grey base coat for the wheel wells (cause this is all the LHS had that came close to RLM 02) and decided to spray the whole thing.  With the undersides being black I'm thinking I'm going to build the underside black up slowly and go heavier arond the seams leaving the center of the panels lighter.  I tried doing this on the corsair I built recently and it turned out pretty good.  Anyhoo, couple of pics of the pit and Hans and Frans before it was closed up and then one of where she sits now.  I intend to do her up in the kit decals for Red 10.

Dave

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:06 AM
 WarHammer25 wrote:

Dave: The B-1a/U1 is looking very nice. I am just curious, are you only putting two long-barreled MK108s in the nose?

Yes, that is the configuration that the instructions show.  Why do you ask?  Is there an alternative configuration for the night fighter?

 

Dave

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Posted by Butz on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:07 AM

 

 Ooooo Dave, very very nice. IMHO, I like the top gray alone with nothing else.. What scale is this again?

Flaps up,

Mike

Rangers Lead The Way

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:08 AM
Thanks Butz, it's the Hasegawa 1/72 kit.

Dave

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:35 AM

Butz -- Glad you like my progress, I was hoping for some bench time today but I think it'll be a few days before I can get back to painting the details. I'm doing Heinz Barr's Red 13, a nice splinter scheme with some subtle mottles down soft-demarkation flanks, and a red nose cap.

Razor -- I have that one somewhere in my stash but it's not logged correctly in my list, I can't tell which is which, and after completely reorganising the stash last week to pull out my eBay resale batch I find myself gun-shy of lifting that ziggurat of boxes again... Buying the Revell kit seems the much easier course of action!

Cheers,

Mike/TB379

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:00 AM

Hey Butz Where ya been? The FAA fellows don't let me out to converse too often ya know?

 Dave it has rained and got up to the high 80's again here! Terrible painting weather been watching and waiting for paint and decals to dry all day!  Slowed me up a bit!  But it was caused by the cold front that came down from Canada and dropped the temp to a freezing 67 degrees overnight.  So now your even messing with the weather are you? Grumpy [|(]

Now on top of that this kit had zero details inside where the landing gear would go if retracted. Mischief [:-,]

Worse yet when I saw Rudraticans pics I had already sealed that area up. So like a ship in a bottle I just added a few things that kinda sorta looked a little not really like his stuff and at least something is there where there wasn't before?  Is that a run on sentence?

 Put on the wheels now and don't look at it any more! LOL!

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:04 AM

 vetteman42 wrote:
Sfcmac I really like your paint job well done

Thankyou!  I try to emmulate Frank but that fellow cranks out some smooth finishes! Dave Guy woulda been done like yesterday!  I like your nightfighter. The config on the Revell kit is just the 4 30mm canons. Whats this about a diff config for the guns? Do tell?

 I do need to hurray and get done before all these master Luftwaffe ace  builders and painters get a going!  Trust me it will shame me!

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:24 AM

Just in case ye repro's benathinkin I beenwankin:

A solid weekend of work has the two Seagulls finished for the USS San Francisco. I'll save you the "fits on a penny" shot, but these a/c are small. Tom's PE set came with one set of interplane struts, luckily two propellers, so everything else is from scratch with .010 wire.Pretty so-so.

Hans Von Hammer thank you for the paint mix, I like it.

Now, eight 5" guns.

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:22 AM
 Wow I didn't put on all the Tom's PE  but I did build those little bitty birdies!  They is small allright!  Also the fact that they were molded in clear plastic wrecked havoc with my eyes!  A very nice looking paint job as well! Glad you found your color match!
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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:44 AM

Aaron, that paintjob is superb. An exact match to the box art. Galland would be proud.

Dave, love the figgies in the pit. Looks like the pilot has beenadoing, what we had beenathinking Billy Bondo was doing! Either that, or hes in the standard pose for a free kick or a game of dodge ball, LOL

Hopefully, ill be joining in the fray, either today or tomorrow. After seeing all the good stuff, I really cant wait. (2 Days off)

...Guy

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:57 AM

Aaron- STICKERS, YAY!!! Tongue [:P]  Great tip on the paper for details, I always enjoy your innovative modelling techniques.  Well done, you're almost there! Big Smile [:D]

Dave- Oh yeah, I like! Nice job with Hans and Frans, how do they see through the gray windshield? Confused [%-)] LOL  I'm with Butz- love the overall gray. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:02 AM

Aaron: Yeah. I know! I got the bug bad for this one. These German birds are some of my favorites but they can be a real pain to paint. Anyway, the finish is looking great and the added detail to the gear bays looks awesome!

Dave: Looking good! Actually, if you are building it as "Red 10", that would be good old Kurt out front. But Kurt and Frans just doesn't have that jingle to it.

As for the armament, I have seen pics of B-1a/U1s with both the standard four 30mm MK 108s and some with just two long-barreled MK 108s in the two bottom ports. I am not to sure about what setup "Red 10" actually had though. Now, all the A-1a fighter variants with the exception of the U1, U4, and U5 had the standard brace of four MK 108s.

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Posted by Butz on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:47 AM

Yo Frank,

 Alright, I have a question on whether or not to use Aires PE IP or go the stock and use the kits with the sa-weet decal..

 Not to sure in what I want to do.. Just checked out my previous 262 build and you can see the IP rather well.. However the decal looks good as well.

 I think what it boils down to is the work.. lol What do you think bro? And yes, I have begun the build.. Got a few ideas up my sleeve so stay tuned!!

 Ugh, decisions decisions.... lol

Flaps up,

Mike

Rangers Lead The Way

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Posted by luftwaffle on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:38 PM
Aaron- Looks excellent, you're mowing right through that thing!

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:03 PM

As prominsed, Im here and at it with gusto,

1st up, what looks better than a bench like this, mmmmmm,

to start, i had to check that the huge hunka resin was going to fit, so i hacked of a perfectly serviceable piece of Tamiya,

luckilly for me, it did,

If anyones done an Aries resin cockpit before, youll know its a fairly indepth kit. Part of the kit are 2 beautifull resin sidewalls. to get these in nicely you need to remove the moulded on ribs on the fuse. this was done with my Mission models Chisel,

Next up, i decided to give the cockpit a coat of RLM66, this was done with Tamiya XF-63 German grey. I also did the seat and painted the back cushion. I gave the seat a light wash with black and a few points in the cockpit. The cockpit still has to be detail painted,

More soon,

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:18 PM

Guy: Looks good! The nose fit looks good. Is it just the photos or does it kind of droop on the top? The pit looks great as well. Keep up the good work.

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:22 PM

Guy you are a machine! You wasted no time jumping right in on the 262. I really need to get to removing some parts from the sprue tonight. That is going to be one cool 262 with that big gun hanging out of the front.

                                                                                         SoulcrusherPirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:34 PM

Guy

Impressive start. This looks like its going to be a fun one to witness.

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:12 PM
Guy that's a carackin' good start there lad.  I think we are all eagerly watching this one soooo...  DON'T SCREW THIS UP!!!!!  Just kidding. Wink [;)]

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:42 PM

Mike (Butz)- Hmmm... I dunno on that one!  Do you happen to have a photo of the kit supplied one handy, along with the Aires one?

Guy- Cracking work so far mate!  I gotta be honest, if Corsair seatbelts show up on that seat, it'll be the last straw LOL. Grumpy [|(]

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:49 PM

Guy, geez man, cut us some slack, will ya! I had to CA my jaw back in place after it hit the floor checkin' out your progress!

Aaron, sorry if I created some unplanned work for ya Wink [;)] . I like what you're doin' though. Takes some guts to add all that after she's buttoned up. Most of the added detail on mine was just the wiring & the plumbing. This kit is packed with detail that just screams atcha sayin' "Go ahead, make me better - I DARE YA!!" I didn't back off. Big Smile [:D]

Butz, good to see ya again! Wish I had some pics of the office before I buttoned her up. Hope this one's OK....

There'll be no progress on her tonite though - 2hr season finale of Hell's Kitchen. Gotta watch!

Keep the pics comin' fellas! This GB rocks!!

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:45 PM

Wow - There is so Really Nice work being shown..  Great job guy's Thumbs Up [tup]

I was really impressed with the detail molded in on the Monogram kit. Here is my progress.

Photobucket

I got back into practice drybrushing to pick out the IP details. PhotobucketThats all for now.

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:33 AM

Frank,

I soo knew you were going to say that.. And wouldn't you know it, my batteries decided to crook on me... And I thought I had bought rechargeables.. Wonder if I can get a refund? lol

 Ugh.. They both look good in there own ways.. The Aires PE IP is nice and very thin.. You also get a clear placard with the dials highlighted in black and the dail faces clear.. Which thouse will be painted before I would apply to the IP..

 I think the thing is is that fact I will have to sand the dials flush with the kits IP, dry fit, dry fir some with placard in place then glue...

 Ah hell.... I'm going to use the PE IP...Wink [;)]

Mike (ruddratt)

 That is perfect.. Especially the view of the seat with the nbelts installed!! Yay

Sean,

 I am really liking how your office is turning out and the instrument panel is outstanding.. What impressed me even more so is how you finished off the instrument panel.. Sa weet man!! Your dry brushing effect is spot on!!

 Thank you for joining us Sean

Geez Guy, you are really on a roll. Love all the AM goodies... I know your early into the build, but do you know what scheme/markings she'll be in?

Flaps up,

Mike

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:48 AM
 ruddratt wrote:

There'll be no progress on her tonite though - 2hr season finale of Hell's Kitchen.

Dave, I had him all the way! Lot's of heart, solid.

I like Gordon Ram too. I think he's really a team builder. I understand he's bankrupt, tho.

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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:22 AM

 Wow ! Rudiratticon!  Awesome wires fore the instruments and stuff!  You really go all out! Purdy cool!

 Sean I don't know why that Monogram 262 isn't more popular! It is a very nice model aside from the fact that you get a lot of bang for the buck!

Guy what can I say! After an awesome Corsair with the tiniest German edge( hey it's your signature after all) Comeback kid with the disolved wings and all! You jump right in head first into a mutant Messersmitt! Aleays the show stopper.

 I added the gear and must say it looks nice to my eyes on the Galland 1/32 Hasegoowa gooey version. Now all those panels and windows that were just white glued in place are now off again to add engines and Gun compartment detail and the final pit stuff.

I am having internet issues some outtage for the area code so I shall post pics when I get a chance!

Frank this pecular looking hat arrived today! Reminded me of you for some reason?

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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:36 AM

Right you swabs, ill not have any mention of my previous bentwinged life Whistling [:-^] It was all just a horrible dream,

Rudderratsio, that cockpit is looking sweeeeet. The IP wires are always a great addition as they really show through the canape. So far your pit looks spot on. Seat belts dont look bad either Big Smile [:D]

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:43 AM
 Butz wrote:

 I know your early into the build, but do you know what scheme/markings she'll be in?

I know that the captured one 'Happy Hunter II' has been done to death, so my 2 options are,

Messerschmitt Me.262 Schwalbe/Sturmvogel/Avia S.92 - Germany (Nazi)

Messerschmitt Me.262 Schwalbe/Sturmvogel/Avia S.92 - Germany (Nazi)

Im quite liking the 1st. Its just knowing what sort of camo on the top of the wings to go for,

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by osher on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:02 AM

Hi chaps, great thread, and yes, the banter here is certainly fun.  Might I ask if it's too late for one to join in?  If so, I'd like to come onboard with the Eduard S-92 (or CS-92, there is also that option).  Colour scheme is either Czech, or (if it's acceptable, and I can find some decals) the supposed Israeli version.

Interesting point about the Japanese 262 is that the Japs actually developed two completely separate '262' and completely seperate engines, neither of which had any direct relationship with the ME262 as all they had were pictures, no plans, as these were onboard the sub that was sunk.  Can't remember the names of the two Jap jets.  One was the Kikka, but the other is beyond me...

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:11 AM

Right lads!  Some excellent work, with lots and lots of great interior work!  I can't wait to get mine onto the bench, hope there are still some who are building here!

Mike- No worries!  Post those pics when you can. Thumbs Up [tup]

Guy- Don't forget to mind rule #6!

 Daywalker wrote:

...Only a couple of rules for this one...

6. No Corsair seatbelts on ME-262 seats allowed (this means you Guy!)

LOL

Aaron- Strange hats arriving in the mail?  Now that is really weird!

osher- You got it!  Page one updated, and Sign - Welcome [#welcome] aboard.  That Eduard kit is the 1/144 kit I assume?

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by osher on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:22 AM
 Daywalker wrote:
Osher- You got it!  Page one updated, and Sign - Welcome [#welcome] aboard.  That Eduard kit is the 1/144 kit I assume?
Indubitably!  The one and only, as far as I know.  Would building it in IDF colours be acceptable?
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