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ME-262: Reich Defender II 10/09-7/10

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Posted by Gigatron on Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:09 AM

Finally, some indesputable proof that I'm actually working on this kit:

-Fred

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Sunday, November 22, 2009 1:45 PM

Wow nice job on the pit. Everything looks great.

                                                                                        SoulcrusherPirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:08 PM
Fred- That is some stunning detail you have added!  The loose electrical connections, rudder pedal straps, levers and such really add a lot of life to the office.  Excellent stuff, looking forward to seeing more of your build! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Monday, November 23, 2009 7:34 AM

Thanks guys Cool [8D].  I didn't think the office would ever get finished.  I lost all the original PE levers (they'd pop off every time I turned around), so I ended up making my own from PE fret with CA knobs.

The wiring, I've yet to see hard proof of the nest of wiring from behind the IP, but every picture of any built kit, has it, so I figured somebody must have gotten this info from somewhere.  I've seen pics of wiring coming down behind the IP, near the right rudder pedal, so the wiring must be coming from somewhere.  But I guess none of the rebuilt birds have the IP wiring intact.

The sight is PE, but it refers to film A and film B for the sight glass, but there's no such animal in either the PE set or the original kit.  I ended up making those from a blister pack from the new clamps I recently purchased.

And after the picture was taken, I decided to add an O2 hose on the left hand side.  I came across an old B&W pic that had something that looked like an O2 hose coming from that side, so I decided to add one.  Only problem is, I have no idea what the end looks like.  Thankfully, I was able to tuck the end so it's really difficult to see.

Now on to the rest of the plane.  After the gun bay, the rest should be a breeze.

-Fred

 

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Posted by jmabx on Monday, November 23, 2009 8:39 PM
 soulcrusher wrote:

Wow nice job on the pit. Everything looks great.

                                                                                        SoulcrusherPirate [oX)]

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Very nice Fred!

I was thinking about starting on mine but I might wait after seeing that... don't wanna bore anybody! Wink [;)] Big Smile [:D]

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by mucker on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:23 AM
Excellent detail, Fred!

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:36 AM
My Trumpeter 262 arrived last night, what a kit!  I was a bit skeptical, but it appears that they have really done their homework on this one. Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:54 AM
Nice build Fred the cockpit is amazing

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:22 AM

Thanks again, guys.  I hope the rest of the build goes this well.

Frank, which Trumpeter kit did you get?  Their 1/32 kit has incredible amounts of detail.  The engine has to be made up of over 50 pieces, easily.  Based on details in the cockpit, it looks like they used Aero Detail no.9 as a reference as well.  The book has details that I haven't seen elsewhere, that are replicated in the Trumpeter kit.

 

Now, here's a question for maybe some 262 experts.  The AD book has line drawings that show bottles of compressed air, behind the gun bay.  From the side view drawing, it shows 4 bottles.  Does anyone know if there were only 4 bottles, or were there 4 on either side (for a total of 8)?  Also, were these bottles for cabin air or were the guns pneumatic?

Thanks,

Fred

 

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Posted by Evil Herc on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:46 AM

Fred- I do not know how many compressed air bottles there where.

They where used to clear the Pnuematic guns in case of Jamming & to blow the gear down in emergency.

Hope that helps.

I have looked online & cannot find Aero Detail #9...is there a PDF version available??

Kannichiwa Jason

Jason- (USMC Colonel/USMC SQ CO FAA/USN/FAW GB) Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

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Posted by Gigatron on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:07 PM

Hey Jason,

If you put "aero detail 9 pdf" in a google search, you'll get a few hits for a downloadable file.  Now, I don't know the contents of files or the legitimacy of the sites, so enter at your own risk, as the saying goes Cool [8D].

Now, if you want a hard copy of the book, HLJ.com was the only place I can find that actually carries it.  The price is about average for Aero Detail books, but shipping to the US is high.  Maybe, because you're in Japan, it'll be cheaper for you.  To offset the shipping, I also orederd the one for the Mosquito from them, which is supposed to be the best Mosquito reference available, to date.

-Fred

 

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Posted by Mobious on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:10 PM

 Hey Fred, That's stunning work your doin...Very CoolThumbs Up [tup]

 Mo

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:04 PM

Fred, your pit is fantastic.  I have just recently finished this part of my kit and I boggle at the detail that you were able to get in there.  I was going crazy trying to get roughly a quarter of the level of detail that you have there.

I've been able to get a little bench time this week and have completed my pit and gun bay.

I also finished the forward landing strut along with the actuator.  Painted with German dunkel grau with foil on the shiny part (I forget the name of that part of the gear).

I have begun buttoning up the fuselage.  With the day off tomorrow, there is a chance I'll get significant work done.  Next up is the wings with all the after-market work I have planned for those, the forward slats and all the flaps.  Oh joy!!!!!

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:24 PM
 Gigatron wrote:

Frank, which Trumpeter kit did you get?

I got the 1/32 ME-262A-1a "Heavy Armament" version, kit number 2260.  What an impressive box of styrene I must say! Big Smile [:D]  I will second the Aero Detail books, very impressive notes, drawings, and reference photos.  I own about 8 of them, and love just thumbing through them sometimes. Approve [^]

Steven- Great work on your kit, the gear look fantastic!  The shiney part of the gear legs are the oleos. Wink [;)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:56 PM
Fred, Steven, ve2ry nice work fellas.  Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]  Keep the pics coming as I need some motivation to finish some other projects on my bench so that I can get back to this one. Big Smile [:D]

Dave

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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:32 AM

Fred, that is some awesome work youve done to the pit. Really top class. Looking forward to our next installment.

Stephen, another beauty on the way. Nice detail work.

Frank, i have a couple of the aero detail books and they are brilliant. As for 262's, ive pulled an old 2 seater (Red 12) from the shelf, as i was never truly happy with it, and have decided it needs a repaint. My plan is to paint it as a 2 seater trainer. This scheme caught my eye,

Messerschmitt Me.262 Schwalbe/Sturmvogel/Avia S.92 - Germany (Nazi)

whatcha reckon,

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:53 AM
Sorry Guy, the photo didn't work.  I would be happy though to add it to your list, just give me all the gory details! Tongue [:P]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, November 26, 2009 3:51 AM

Sometimes, it does that. Failing to post a copy. Mmmm, strange. Ill try again,

Messerschmitt Me.262 Schwalbe/Sturmvogel/Avia S.92 - Germany (Nazi)

The kit is the Dragon, 1/48 Nachtjager, that im going to do a re-paint and pose it as an inflight, with gear up. I should be able to scrounge the decals up i need.

...Guy

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:51 AM

Guy- I have it impossible to link directly to the profiles on Wings Palette.  Only way to do it is to save them on your 'puter, then upload them here. Thumbs Up [tup]

Is your 262 an "A" or a "B"?

Frank 

 

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Posted by raptordriver on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:17 AM

Hey Frank, thats cool what you pulled up.

Last year when I built a Monogram 262, it was that very same one.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, November 26, 2009 3:23 PM

Sorry Frank, the Beastie is a 262B-1A. And heres a piccy of the bird,

...Guy

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:08 PM

Thanks Andrew, I like this bird!  Do you have any photos of the one you built?  I would love to see them. Approve [^]

Guy- You got it buddy!  List updated.  And, this time I will be building with you.  Working on my kit this evening! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, November 27, 2009 3:46 AM

Due to shift times, im not getting an awfull lot of time at the bench. Maybe an hour if im lucky. Hopefully that will change by next week. Anyhoo, ive started stripping the bird. Heres what she looked like once, Once i might add,

I was never happy with her. Also i dropped it recently doing something or another, so its a prime candidate for the repaint in training coulours. Im stripping the paint with AB cleaner,

I know in the States you have all sorts of plasic paint stripping products. If you know of some in the UK. Id love to know LOL.

...Guy

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, November 27, 2009 8:37 AM
Guy- Thanks for the pics, will make a superb "before and after" comparison.  It is a lot of fun sometimes to pull an old build out of the case, and update it with one's current skills.  I shall look forward to seeing how you get on with this build.  BTW, how was that Dragon kit to build?

Frank 

 

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Posted by Evil Herc on Friday, November 27, 2009 9:06 AM

Guy-Cannot wait to see the new paint job.

Well I finally had some bench time.... Finished plumbing the nose well, main wells, & finished hooking up all the lines to the Mk 108s. I attached the wings and the engine nacelles. a lil bit of cleanup to do. Question does anyone have a spare 1/48 Tamiya gun bay cover??? I tried to modify mine so that i had one door closed and the other open and can we say FAILURE!!Banged Head [banghead] I will try to post pics sometime tomorrow.

2nd Question... does anyone have any reviews of hasegawa's 1/32 262 offering. I saw it tonight at the LHS while trying to locate Aero Detail 9.

Keep up the Good work Gents!!

Kanichiwa-Jason

Jason- (USMC Colonel/USMC SQ CO FAA/USN/FAW GB) Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

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Posted by raptordriver on Friday, November 27, 2009 9:32 AM

Alrighty, here is what I built last year

DSCF1996.jpg picture by Raptor94

DSCF1995.jpg picture by Raptor94

DSCF2001.jpg picture by Raptor94

Many errors I know, but this was probably my best one at the time.

I built this normal Monogram kit using Aeromasters decals.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, November 27, 2009 9:32 AM
Jason- Which part exactly are you looking for?  Do you have the part number for it?  I have a couple of extra of part number E10 (the open access cover) if that is what you are looking for. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, November 27, 2009 9:33 AM
I like it very much Andrew!  Especially the sharp-edge camo on the tail, well done! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by luftwaffle on Friday, November 27, 2009 9:47 AM
 Evil Herc wrote:

2nd Question... does anyone have any reviews of hasegawa's 1/32 262 offering. I saw it tonight at the LHS while trying to locate Aero Detail 9.

Jason, it's a 70's vintage kit.  Raised panel lines and rivets.  Shape is good and it can be built up nicely with some work.  The only real weak point I see is the wheels, but Signifier makes a nice set of resin wheels for the 262.

Aaron did a nice build up of one for this GB, maybe he'll chime in. 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, November 27, 2009 9:49 AM

 luftwaffle wrote:
...Signifier makes a nice set of resin wheels for the 262.

Funny you mention those Mike!  The set of those I bought on Ebay arrived not 5 minutes ago in the mail.  Beautiful looking castings! Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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