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ME-262: Reich Defender II 10/09-7/10

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Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:53 PM

Well it arrived today. The second kit for my twin Me 262 build. This kit is the 1990's MPM Me 262 A-1a/U4 The one with the 50MM Mauser sticking out of the nose.

The Kit

 

Its an older kit with some relatively nice detail considering its age but there is quite a bit of flash that will need to be cleaned up.

The kit actually comes with some nice extras like 2 1/2 sheets of Photo Etch and a Vacuform Canopy

The Extras

Since this is going to be a twin build and I just happen to have a set of 18 month old twins myself I decided that each bird will be named after one of my twins. It'll be easier then constantly deciphering between A-1a/U4 and the B-1a/U1.

From here on out the B-1a/U1 Night Fighter by Revell will be called Delaney after my daughter and the A-1a/U4 by MPM with the "Big Cannon" will be named after my son Beckett. Big Smile [:D]

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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Posted by soulcrusher on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:50 PM

To bad Mike but from the looks of those picks I would have to agree with the adjuster. She looks like a write off. Older S/10 just do not have much of a blue book value. At least ambye she will live on after the salvage yard picks of the good parts and resells them!

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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:13 PM

 jmabx wrote:
Butz - That sucks about your truck but at least you're okay! Thumbs Up [tup] Hopefully it gets fixed up like new. I've been in GM parts for 13 years and seen many of those old Sonomas come and go but I have to admit that the S-10/Sonoma in that body style were some great little trucks. It's a shame to see one get taken out... especially by it's very large sibling! Wink [;)]

Hey Jeremy,

 Took the ol Sonoma down to my friends body shop to get an estimate.. Just looking at the cosmetic work alone and not any internal issues... $4700..

 An adjuster from my insurance agency stopped over to have a look see... Sad to say she may be written off... Ugh..

 Had her since new and she never looked a day past a year old...

Flaps up,

Mike

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Posted by soulcrusher on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:12 PM

They are'nt to bad unless the upper ball joint falls apart and tucks the tire up in the wheel well. Have them inspected if you have'nt yet seriously!  Fixed a bunch of those. Then you just have to make sure you dump some STS fuel treament to make sure the injector popetts do'nt clog up. Man I worked on alot of those S10/Blazers. I think I have replaced just about evry part you can on a S/10. I should have known you were a parts guy Jeremy. I did a 7 year stint running a huge Jeep/Chrylser parts department in Ft Lauderdale in the 90's. I got sick of dealing with morons so I went back to turning wrenches. The cars don't back or ask stupid questions!

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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:05 PM
 Summit wrote:
 Butz wrote:

 


 I have noticed that almost every reference pix I have, the 262 does not have the front scissor set up on the front LG.. Was this common practice?

Ha - I actually know this as I spent about a week reading everything to find out myself. 

From what I read the torque scissors were only mounted on the "early production Me 262A-1a and Me 262A-2a fighter- bombers"

The scissor point faced aft

Brief but the only info I could find . Thumbs Up [tup]

 Haha cool... I just found that out too..!! Since I am makin this 262 a late version, off with the torque scissors

 Thanks for the quick reply Sean

Flaps up,

Mike

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Posted by jmabx on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:25 PM
Butz - That sucks about your truck but at least you're okay! Thumbs Up [tup] Hopefully it gets fixed up like new. I've been in GM parts for 13 years and seen many of those old Sonomas come and go but I have to admit that the S-10/Sonoma in that body style were some great little trucks. It's a shame to see one get taken out... especially by it's very large sibling! Wink [;)]

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by Summit on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:21 PM
 Butz wrote:

 


 I have noticed that almost every reference pix I have, the 262 does not have the front scissor set up on the front LG.. Was this common practice?

Ha - I actually know this as I spent about a week reading everything to find out myself. 

From what I read the torque scissors were only mounted on the "early production Me 262A-1a and Me 262A-2a fighter- bombers"

The scissor point faced aft

Brief but the only info I could find . Thumbs Up [tup]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by soulcrusher on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:00 PM
 bondoman wrote:
 KJ200 wrote:

Note to self, don't bother with the CMK slats & flaps!

Sure you'll sort it Guy, but what a PITA.

Sean, stunning work on the scratchbuiltwheel bay divider, not sure what the proper name is!Confused [%-)]

Probably something like Fahregestellevordemflugel knowing the Germans!

Karl

 

Nichtmudonkapitainsgebootsthingen! My current nightmare is that the MM RLM02 is not sticking to the Tamiya putty I used around the separate gun bay cover. Sand, paint, sand, paint.

Sounds like a little primer might be needed there Bondo.

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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:51 PM

 

 Sorry that I have been not around these parts in the last few days... Been under the weatherYuck [yuck] Wow, I am really really impressed with what I am seeing!!

 Totally getting the itch again(ah I must be feelin better)... I do have a few question though, I have noticed that almost every reference pix I have, the 262 does not have the front scissor set up on the front LG.. Was this common practice?

 Also, if I were to reposition the front tire and if the scissor was attached to the olie, would it follow the tires rotation?

 Oh yea.... One other question.... Do you think Tamiya Putty & a lil Mr Surfacer would do the trick?

I bet not everyday you meet someone who was hit by an Alavanche and lived to tell about it.. Lol.. Long story.. It was her fault and she admitted it to the authorities and most of all, no one was hurt.. And yes my lil guy was home...

 Flaps up,

Mike

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Posted by Summit on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:45 PM
 bondoman wrote:

 

Sean a trick I use is thin clear report cover plastic which can come pretty flimsy. nice work.

bondo - I will have to procure some of that stuff for the next time. A great tip stored away for future use...Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanks to all - the Mono 262 followers , I have officially hit a wall with my building skills.  The rear wheels have/had a molded in brake line. Attempts to remove it were sastisfactory but to replace the missing three spokes were not to my liking. As it saddens me to say - I will be ordering Resin replacement wheels. All this way with no aftermarket.. Anyway I would of Happily broken that rule for a replacement canopy but none are to be found for any 1/48 kit. (least by my sources)

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:34 PM
 KJ200 wrote:

Note to self, don't bother with the CMK slats & flaps!

Sure you'll sort it Guy, but what a PITA.

Sean, stunning work on the scratchbuiltwheel bay divider, not sure what the proper name is!Confused [%-)]

Probably something like Fahregestellevordemflugel knowing the Germans!

Karl

 

Nichtmudonkapitainsgebootsthingen! My current nightmare is that the MM RLM02 is not sticking to the Tamiya putty I used around the separate gun bay cover. Sand, paint, sand, paint.
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Posted by luftwaffle on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:15 PM

Aaron- belated Happy Birthday!!! Happy B-Day [bday]

Guy- Bummer!  You're right, some resin stuff just doesn't fit that well.  I think most of the items you see are at least pretty good but I've seen other items that are identical to the ones in the kit, like they used the ones in the kit as a master and then tried to sell it as an upgrade.

Sean- Sweet, you're going to town on that baby!

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:45 PM

Note to self, don't bother with the CMK slats & flaps!

Sure you'll sort it Guy, but what a PITA.

Sean, stunning work on the scratchbuiltwheel bay divider, not sure what the proper name is!Confused [%-)]

Probably something like Fahregestellevordemflugel knowing the Germans!

Karl

 

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:20 PM

Thx guys, My manly mojo has definately been kicked.

Lord Moustachio (Sean) After i posted the last one i went back up to the modelling den and attacked it with Gusto (Whoever he is). Im going to do away with the longer insert altogether and fashion some styrene strip in there to make the inner piece. I think that will be a bit easier than reusing the old bits i cut off. Ive already done this part and ill try to sort the links to the rollers later on. Ill post some pics up later. Im off tomorrow, so more done then.

Frank, You have to watch a lot of these resin kits. Some of the pieces ,Like my cockpit set, have been around for a few years and, im sure, the molds are starting to suffer. And resin shrinks over time. I bought LE slats for my Swordfish, from MDC, who are well known for thier excellent resin. The bits i got were short too. But luckilly he replaced them. He said that after my call he smashed the molds and made new ones. Good eh? But i cant see CMK doing that though LOL,

...Guy

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:08 AM

Guy- I can't believe they would sell something that fits that poorly!  Not like it is only a tiny bit short, looks like they goofed big time there.  If I know you, you'll have it whipped back into shape by this afternoon and working just like the real thing with scale linkages and rollers.

Sean- You are building at Guy's pace here!  Looking very good indeed.  That tip on wicking CA into the card stock, sounds like an R/C tip. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:11 PM

Man Guy that is a major bummer. With your manly mojo I am sure you will come up with a fix for it. I have not seen you defeated by any model kit yet! Did you find out if it is just a bad product or for a differnet kit?

Sean looks like some nifty work there.

I have spend only a couple of hours at the bench but these Tamiya kits go together so easy I already have the fuselage all closed up and the wings assembled. I dry fit the wing assembly to the fuselage and the fit is one of the best I have ever seen. Absolutely perfect! Busy today watching my niece today. I will be back at the bench tomorrow.

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:32 PM

Guy, do not throw it against the wall although I can feel your pain. Seans right- we'll be too polite to point it out...

Sean a trick I use is thin clear report cover plastic which can come pretty flimsy. nice work.

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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:00 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:


 

 

Guy - I would dig the pieces you cut off out of the bin and graft a the section in to fill the gap. As for rod rollers fill the plastic gaps with some styrene ans saw new ones in.  After some putty and cleanup no one would ever know the diff.

I have spent the last few days contmplating on what to do with the wing gear wells. Not a lot there for detail, plus a really nice gap fore and aft.

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I decided to fill them up after looking at reference pics and adding a little modelers improvision.

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 Yep thats a piece of notecard as I did not have any styrene thin enough for the upper lip. I wicked it with thin C/A to make it sturdy .

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:52 PM

Aaron: Happy Birthday! Many great birthday wishes to you. Hope all is well.

Guy: That's to bad about the slats. It will be interesting to see how you work with them.

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:10 PM

Hi all, im working on the LE slats and have come up to a stumbling block. The resin pieces are just wrong. They fit well and look good,

but the moveable part doesnt sit flush to the wing, but when fitted in place it is raised above the wing,

Ive checked a walkaround video and they come out flush with the wing. Me thinks some modifications are in order, Check out the vid at 6:12 and you'll see what i mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uKpPPaS5PI

or this one from 6:22,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyVwhvLRGQE

The longer L/E slats are just wrong. Well the insert piece is. For one its too short,

and secondly, the rod roller thingies underneath, dont line up with the holes in the wing. I think this part has seriously shrunk or its made for another kit,

The resin moveable piece is the right size? Crazy eh.

...Guy

 

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Posted by Gigatron on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:40 PM

Geez louise, you guys are darn near finished and I only just placed my order for the kit today.

This'll be the first time I didn't finish a GB that hasn't started yet Laugh [(-D].  Who do we have to thank for getting this thing started a month ahead of schedule Wink [;)]?

Hopefully, I'll be finished with the major construction of my Sherman by week's end and painted and ready for weathering by the end of the weekend.  Just picked up a few tubes of oil paints for a dot filter wash (have to learn to do it someday, might as well be now).  Then I hope to start the 262 by middle of next week (hooray for vacation).

-Fred

 

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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:32 PM
 Evil Herc wrote:

Just a pic I found with a lil info on it.

Kannichiwa & Arigato, Jason

That's from Brett Green's Gotterdamerung, a book I can heartily recommend for all Luftwaffe lovers.

Dave, Pukka is a Hindi word, meaning perfect. Shadows of empire and all that.

Guy, nice work on the flaps and ailerons, looking kushti.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:07 PM
 Evil Herc wrote:

Just a pic I found with a lil info on it.

Kannichiwa & Arigato, Jason

Funny you should post that picture. There is a guy on another forum I use that is building that scene with I believe a 144 scale Stuka. Here is the link

 http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/group-builds/unofficial-group-build-after-battle-ju-87-stuka-litte-diorama-19846.html

If you were to pan over more to the photographers right you would see another Me 262 sitting near the barn.

 

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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Posted by sidure on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:18 AM

Many happy birthday wishes Aaron, hope you are doing well and getting better. Live long and prosper

Steve

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Posted by Evil Herc on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:08 AM

Just a pic I found with a lil info on it.

Kannichiwa & Arigato, Jason

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Posted by Evil Herc on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:13 AM
 Daywalker wrote:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR AARON...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

Happy B-Day [bday] Sarge! Make a Toast [#toast]Party [party]Big Smile [:D]Propeller [8-]Make a Toast [#toast]Wow!! [wow]Tongue [:P]Party [party]Make a Toast [#toast]

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Hope your Birthday is great and may you get well soon. the nurses are missing you over in the FAA.

Kannichiwa & Arigato-Jason

Jason- (USMC Colonel/USMC SQ CO FAA/USN/FAW GB) Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:14 AM
 Daywalker wrote:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR AARON...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

Happy B-Day [bday] Sarge! Make a Toast [#toast]Party [party]Big Smile [:D]Propeller [8-]Make a Toast [#toast]Wow!! [wow]Tongue [:P]Party [party]Make a Toast [#toast]

                                                                                                                                                                                               Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I wholeheartedly agree. I hope your pharmacutical intaqke wont stifle your celebrations? How is the back BTW?...Guy
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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:12 AM
Happy B-Day [bday] Aaron!!!  If I had known earlier I'd have baked a cake.  Then ate it cause it would have cost to much to mail!  Laugh [(-D]

Dave

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:10 AM
 Luftwoller wrote:

So its all looking fairly pukka.

Pukka...  ??? Confused [%-)]  I don't know about your side of the pond but over here that would not be a very complimentary adjective!  Laugh [(-D] 

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 19, 2009 11:59 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR AARON...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

Happy B-Day [bday] Sarge! Make a Toast [#toast]Party [party]Big Smile [:D]Propeller [8-]Make a Toast [#toast]Wow!! [wow]Tongue [:P]Party [party]Make a Toast [#toast]

Frank 

 

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