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ME-262: Reich Defender II 10/09-7/10

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:02 AM

Mike I have been using a technique described in a Reader's tip using Mr. Surfacer on panel lines with a toothpick then rubbing it away with a.......well SEVERAL cotton buds(q-tips) dipped in alchohol to gently rub away the excess without sanding away detail. The tip reccomends letting the surfacer dry for a few minutes then going at it with the cotton bud. I have been just fine after a couple days, Just takes a few more minutes to soften and then rub off but it does work quite well. If it's not good enough, then just redo the process. If you want totally flush filled panel lines then a final wet sand with 2400 and finer gradesto get a glass smooth finish. It is indeed laquer based and smells but will still come off with alchohol as described with no ill effects to the plastic. PM inbound Mike!

Don't know why but I bought Revell's 1/72 262 for future builds/decompression/AB practice type job hehe

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:07 AM

Hi Richie,

This sounds a good technique, and an excuse to go buy some isopropyl at long last. It's kinda scary wondering what a plane model will look like without panel lines -- toylike? Hopefully accurate, but... It reminds me of the 262 at Hendon, and how strange it looked without visible divisions in its skin -- I wondered about that at the time!

Cheers, M/TB379

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:06 AM

There is a 262 in OZ??????? COOL!!!!! must check it out one day!!! PM inbound.

Well, I got the office together, not fussing much over it as I am trying to keep it OOB. Wasn't anything to worry bout just laziness as to why it took so long lol. Hopefully 2mora will get it into the fuse and see where I'm at then. In the mean time a couple pics to show at least a lil step forward.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what that thingamajig on the left side of the office tub that obviously was important enough to make a seperate part for is????? Am thinking it might be the throttle linkages or something.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:00 PM

simpilot34

There is a 262 in OZ??????? COOL!!!!! must check it out one day!!! PM inbound.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what that thingamajig on the left side of the office tub that obviously was important enough to make a seperate part for is????? Am thinking it might be the throttle linkages or something.

Ritchie, that pit is looking spot on.

Black X is the Australian 262, see link.

http://www.stormbirds.com/schwalbe/survivors/survivors.htm

Not sure what the linkage is on the side of the cockpit tub.

I always figured it was throttle or flap related as those are the levers on the port console.

Karl

 

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Posted by Spike190 on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:21 PM

Very nice detail you've added Karl, it's coming together really nicely. Well done on all your filling n sanding..

Richie the cockpits looking great, keep the pics coming.

Mike, those decal belts look really good in the pic you posted, the cockpit looks very nicely done.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:19 AM

Karl thanks for the link!!! Maybe one day will go to Canberra.

Thanks for the comments guys!!!! Much appreciated.Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:25 AM

Excellent work Richie!  Very nice nice stuff indeed.

Black X is the subject in Eagle Editions' book Stormbird Colors.  Some great reference pics in that book as well as some photos of some of the original camouflage!

Frank 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:19 AM

Thanks Frank!!!! Got the office in the fuse and have the Wing bits off the tree and a couple bit in the center section glued in. Will probably glue them up 2nite and then start filling pnel lines and checking fit to fuse. More pics soonish, Might be going fishing Saturday but calling for rain. If the sky is cryin' then I be at the bench!!!Wink

Just out of curiosity and a somewhat decent price I went and bought the Hase 1/32 Bf109G-6!!!! 1/32, ME!!!!????Embarrassed One day....

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, May 30, 2010 5:40 AM

Well it was rainin' so got some bench time that I just loved!!! Got the wing on my bird, filled it tonight. Have to go over a few bits again where the Surfacer  sucked inside. but otherwise a decent fit I must say. painted and got the engine bits off the tree. Did a quick burntish irony color then willclose up the rear section of engine and fill seams in the cowl. The office fit like a glove and will look decent under a closed roof. Final coat of Tamiya smoke. I did the exhaust stain on my Jake with it using it for the first time and was ecstaitic!!!

and the exhaust stains

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, May 30, 2010 9:51 AM

Heh fellas, excellent Me-262's still being completed here!

I entered 'OCC & mini Me' in a contest held @ Fredericton New Brunswick on Saturday hosted by CAMS model club (Central Area Modeler's Club) And took 'Best of category' for 'Aircraft 1/72 scale & smaller' It was a points format, I believe the nifty display base & custom K-rad helped score it above the rest as there were excellent entries in this category.

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Posted by Spike190 on Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:27 AM

Well done on your win Suppression, always liked that little Dio you rustled up Toast.

Keep up the good work Richie it's coming along really well. I love the Mr Surfacer myself, which grade are you using? I like the Tamiya smoke also, nice for post shading etc.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, May 30, 2010 2:20 PM

CONGRATULATIONS JASON!!!

ToastPropellerBalloonsPirateBow DownEatsToastGiftToast

That is spectacular news buddy!  You ought to be very proud of that one.

Speaking of pride, Richie- you are really pulling out the stops now!  A couple of days ago you were showing photos of the completed office, now you're just about ready for paint.  Well done mate!

Frank 

 

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:18 PM

Thanks Daywalker,

The first contest it was entered in was peer judged and I felt that the larger entries gathered more votes in that format. Each entrant was allowed to vote on their pick each category. The last contest was a points system where there could be multiple gold awards depending on the quality of entries. Judges from the host model club scored the entries. Only one 'best of category award'Big Smile

The bold red banner made me blush as I know your Me-262's would score higher in comparison.Embarrassed

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:52 PM

Congratulations Jason!!! WELL DONE mate!!!!Bow Down

Thanks Frank!!! Yeah I hope I keep going on this pace as the contest is the middle of June, not much longer to go.Tongue Tied Going to put the engines together 2nite after work.Toast

Spike I have been using surfacer 500, bit thicker than the others, fills gaps rather well.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, May 31, 2010 2:01 AM

Daywalker

CONGRATULATIONS JASON!!!

ToastPropellerBalloonsPirateBow DownEatsToastGiftToast

That is spectacular news buddy!  You ought to be very proud of that one.

 

Ditto what Daywalker said, and has been said, I just cant add to it. Thought it was a stunning build when I first saw it.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, May 31, 2010 4:35 AM

Jason, congratulations on the medal!Toast

Ritchie, you're storming along there with your 262.

The Jap float plane looks sweet.

Progress

The pit on the big Trumpy 262 is painted and Futured and just needs an oil wash and some dry brushing before I cable it all up.

I'll post some pics later.

Karl

 

 

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Monday, May 31, 2010 9:18 AM

Embarrassed

Tanks again fellas!

I can explain the 'medium scale aircraft' thingy... The awards were a bit rushed and confused. Someone else accepted the 'best in category, small scale' as mine was on the 'medium scale' list??? They also called the wrong name.. I am Jason not Jeff. After the ceremony I straightened the error out and received the 'medium scale award' I just hope the fella who accepted the 'small scale' had a good entry.

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Posted by IBuild148 on Monday, May 31, 2010 12:58 PM

SuppressionFire,

Congratulation's on the win! Bow DownNice effect you've created!

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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, May 31, 2010 2:47 PM

Finally a pic of the pit...

...the oil wash is just drying in this pic.

Karl

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, May 31, 2010 10:39 PM

Great work Karl, keep it up! 

Any idea why this page looks so funky?  I see that 148's post above looks a bit different, with his sig above his post.  Wonder what gives?

Frank 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 11:58 AM

Yeah and the greenish background to previous posts I see.....Huh?Maybe they are experimanting on a post that Crushlikins posted about the background being bright.....don't know, wierd I must say. The pics still show that is a plus and welcomed. Still haven't gotten the engines together but hope to get some BIG progress this week as the contest is in 12 days!!! ACCCCKKK!!!!Whistling I went fishing, caught 4 !&*!%@%#* starfish!!!! lol that time for that catch would have been better spent at the bench, but the unknown chance of nice fish is very alluring as we fisherman always know hehe!!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 1:03 PM

Maybe it's a special colour to commemorate the 1,000,000th post...

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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 1:53 PM

Daywalker

Any idea why this page looks so funky?  I see that 148's post above looks a bit different, with his sig above his post.  Wonder what gives?

It was like that when I got here, and I didn't do nuthin!

Maybe they've migrated to Windows 7!Wink

Karl

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:24 PM

EmbarrassedBTW Karl your office is looking great!!!! Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by gspatton44 on Thursday, June 3, 2010 12:00 PM

Yes KJ your cockpit is coming along nicely!

I am one of the ones straggling behind also and may be in danger of not making the revised end date but I am giving it my all and advancing my skills in the process. The problem with the kit I am doing (old hasegawa) is that there is quite a bit of detail missing fromthis bird even if you don't decide to open anything up! I have PE sets for the Revell kit which are helping but there is still a lot of detail missing from the wheel well area. I will post some progress pics in the next few days to show what I have come with so far. I guess the motto should be keep on truckin'.

BTW any one have any ideas on the color for the wheel well area? RLM 02? Most color pics I see look like there was very little paint used in this area but I don't know if that was just because most of these were taken after these aircraft where taken apart and studied or from the germans lack of time and supplies at the end of the war. Any opinions are welcome.

"When I want it to stick, I give it to 'em dirty"

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, June 5, 2010 2:15 AM

Patton the destructions on my academy kit call for silver in the bays. But left them unmasked whilst doing primer and stuff so I just might do a wash and be done with them. As mentioned things HAD to move quickly and cleanliness and roughness with functionality became the norm. HTH!!Yes

SIGH! Might miss the contest date with mine next weekend but ..... well it will be ready for next year!! Engines still not together but looking to remedy that. Will be having a couple more residents in my house next week. Long story, but will be getting the two cats the ex and I had whilst together. Will be reunited and will be including them in pics occasionally Cool they are pure bred British Shorthairs, sisters, and will be MINE. GF won't be happy but.... well, like dogs, who will be more loyal and give an unconditional love. Will just have to make sure I shut the man cave door when I leave the house hehe.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, June 5, 2010 7:27 AM

From what I have been able to find, I think the gear bays inside the actual wings was RLM 02, while the areas inside the fuselage were left in natural metal. 

Richie- Bummer that she may not make the show, but don't hurry the build now for it!  Would hate to see something go wrong trying to finish it quickly.

Frank 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, June 7, 2010 5:58 AM

Very true Frank.Yes

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by gspatton44 on Monday, June 7, 2010 11:52 AM

Thanks for the useful info guys. I think Iwill come up witha mixture of natural metal and RLM 02 to mimick what I see in the photos that I have.

I finally have some progress pics that I want to share

This id the nose wheel bay with a coat of primer. I added some styrene ribs and some tin foil plates around the access holes with rivets i punched with a dull needle

Next is the cockpit tub wich is from the Eduard set. At his time I only have the floor panel and the seat base installed. The side panels will come later after all the work on the main gear bay is complete. This should minimize the destruction od the control levers and such. Also in this picre are the two styrene seat frames.

Next are photos of the bottom of the cockpit tub. The piece of metal as it comes from Eduard is devoid of any detail whatso ever so I am having to add everything. I am simulating riveting with drops of CA but I now think I should have used tin foil with the technique I used above.

Lastly is the rear main LG wheel bay bulkhead. As I said before the old Hasegawa kit has very limited detail compared to the trumpy kits but I am adding to my skills set so I am very happy about this. I don't know how it is all going to turn out but I have my fingers crossed.

Thats it for know but I should have some more in the next couple of days. I am inthe process of working on the gear bay sidewalls and adding the electrical cable and boxes to these areas next. Any comments are welcome and thanks for looking!

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, June 7, 2010 7:33 PM

I tell you what-

Nothing looks quite like metal like REAL metal!  Great work so far, looking forward to the next set of WIP photos!

Frank 

 

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