~The Bear Trap GB~ December '09 to August '10

mg.mikael wrote:

Less then two weeks to go unitll the start of the Bear Trap GB!!!

People always tell me I am "special". Can i start early?

Less then two weeks to go unitll the start of the Bear Trap GB!!! Hope you guys are getting your kits together for the big day.

On a related note, their has been quite a few new resource links added to the first page. Hope you guys check them out, because theirs things ranging from an interview with a SPETsNAZ vet to superb pics of the war from the soliders view.

M1Carbine wrote:

RZM has some good prices on Kastens http://www.rzm.com/main/main.cfm scroll down on the page for the link   Bob

Thanks for the link, M1Carbine. Unfortunately it seems both modelkastens workable and non-workable tracks are pretty much the same price......was sorta hoping one would be much cheaper then the other.

RZM has some good prices on Kastens

http://www.rzm.com/main/main.cfm

scroll down on the page for the link

Bob

darson wrote:

mg.mikael wrote: Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?   I've built the Tamiya T-72 before and if you're modeling the tank with the side skirts on then to be honest I think AM tracks are a bit of overkill.  Different story altogether if your tank doesn't have skirts though. If you really want a set of Kasten's have a look at these stores  http://depothobbies.com/modelkasten.htm http://www.dragonusaonline.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=UMLZMKSK11

Thanks for the links, darson. I guess your right, if the side skirts are on then you won't be seeing all that much. I guess I better go do some researching to see if the majority of T-72's had side skirts in Afghanistan or not.

mg.mikael wrote:

Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?

I've built the Tamiya T-72 before and if you're modeling the tank with the side skirts on then to be honest I think AM tracks are a bit of overkill.  Different story altogether if your tank doesn't have skirts though.

If you really want a set of Kasten's have a look at these stores 

http://depothobbies.com/modelkasten.htm

http://www.dragonusaonline.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=UMLZMKSK11

No worries, the pics came out great and you didn't get the "red x."

Dang, that kit comes with a metal barrel too.......now I'm even more jealous of your kit.

This is my first attempt to post pictures to a web site. Figure I better get some practice in before the real deal starts up.

Just some plane jane pics of the box and some parts. I didnt worry about picture quality or lighting or anything. Purely done just to see if I could get them to post.

Complete kit

Tracks and roadwheels

Box art

Lower hull, metal barrel, clear plastic, and PE

Coldsteel6d wrote:

mg.mikael wrote:  Coldsteel6d wrote:  mg.mikael wrote: Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?     I have been looking for some for a while now as well. Great Models has them listed but they are out of stock and have been for a while. I'll keep my eyes open for em. Seen em in the past for $22 to $26 range. They were "out of stock" on some other online hobby sites too.......I wonder if they were discontinued or something. I know Miniarm makes a set of tracks, but their resin unfortunately. Maybe I should have bought the Friuls at the IPMS meet yesterday, but they were $33 dollars or so and even if I did haggle for them they still would have been too pricey for me. Especially considering the T-72 kit cost $10 and I didn't want to spend three times that on just the tracks.  Unlike yours, my kit comes with indy tracks and they dont look that bad.

Ahhh man, I'm so jealous.

mg.mikael wrote:

Coldsteel6d wrote:  mg.mikael wrote: Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?     I have been looking for some for a while now as well. Great Models has them listed but they are out of stock and have been for a while. I'll keep my eyes open for em. Seen em in the past for $22 to $26 range. They were "out of stock" on some other online hobby sites too.......I wonder if they were discontinued or something. I know Miniarm makes a set of tracks, but their resin unfortunately. Maybe I should have bought the Friuls at the IPMS meet yesterday, but they were $33 dollars or so and even if I did haggle for them they still would have been too pricey for me. Especially considering the T-72 kit cost $10 and I didn't want to spend three times that on just the tracks.

I want a set for my T-62. Havent really started looking yet but if I cant find em online I will hit the local shop. Maybe he can order them through his own supplier. If not the kit ones will do. Unlike yours, my kit comes with indy tracks and they dont look that bad. 

Coldsteel6d wrote:

mg.mikael wrote: Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?     I have been looking for some for a while now as well. Great Models has them listed but they are out of stock and have been for a while. I'll keep my eyes open for em. Seen em in the past for $22 to $26 range.

They were "out of stock" on some other online hobby sites too.......I wonder if they were discontinued or something. I know Miniarm makes a set of tracks, but their resin unfortunately.

Maybe I should have bought the Friuls at the IPMS meet yesterday, but they were $33 dollars or so and even if I did haggle for them they still would have been too pricey for me. Especially considering the T-72 kit cost $10 and I didn't want to spend three times that on just the tracks.

mg.mikael wrote:

Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?

I have been looking for some for a while now as well. Great Models has them listed but they are out of stock and have been for a while. I'll keep my eyes open for em. Seen em in the past for $22 to $26 range.

Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad.

Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?  

Got Hinomaru wrote:

I admit I am thinking about joining this one, but for now just a question. Are the MiG-19, Su-15, Su-20, Su-22, Tu-95 and Tu-128 not listed because they didn't fly actual combat sorties during the war or for some other reason? I am pretty positive they were all "In the inventory" during this time frame.                                             Andrew

I looked into it and I will include the Su-20, Su-22, and the Tu-95. The Su-15 and Tu-128 are not going to be included because I found no proof of those ever seeing service in the Soviet-Afghan War.

As for the MiG-19, I haven't found any references that state it was in the war, but if anyone has proof otherwise please share.

Roster and vehicle list have been updated.

Thanks MG, appreciate it.

Bob

Got Hinomaru? - First off, I hope you do decide to join the Bear Trap GB. Secondly, my list isn't 100% perfect so I'll look into those vehicles and update the list accordingly.

M1Carbine - Great to have you aboard, just remember no starting untill December 1st. Your a braver soul then me to attempt that Maquette kit......nevertheless I hope you conquer the beast.

Hey MG, I would like to get in on this one as well.  I have  Maquette 1/35 ASU-57.  I will probably have to fight this kit to get it done.  I have attempted ths Russian brand before and it was horrific and spent many days in theropy afterwards and Johnny Walker and I became close friends............LOL.  let me know if I can hop in this GB.

Bob

   I admit I am thinking about joining this one, but for now just a question. Are the MiG-19, Su-15, Su-20, Su-22, Tu-95 and Tu-128 not listed because they didn't fly actual combat sorties during the war or for some other reason? I am pretty positive they were all "In the inventory" during this time frame.

                                          Andrew

Sorry about not getting the badges up this weekend guys. I've been swamped with work again this weekend, but I'll try to get some work on them done later this week.

Going to the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS show on Saturday(won't be entering any builds) but maybe I'll pick up a Shilka or something.....guess I better get their early.

HSteve wrote:

mg.mikael wrote: HSteve- Is the 1/48 KOPRO gonna be a SU-25 kit?     As long as it's available until I can afford it, yeah... I've found one kit available, and from what -neu- has told me, they're not great kits... -neu- , bad fit, flash, etc.? The KP costs around 50 bucks... I want to hear from some folks who've built 'em before I go nuts... Eduard has an entire set of p/e stuff to detail it - cockpit, exterior, you name it... I'm a little cautious about sinking +/- 100 bucks into a model; I've got a year to build and hone my skills, though... Rationalization: You Gotta Love It!

mg.mikael wrote:

HSteve- Is the 1/48 KOPRO gonna be a SU-25 kit?

As long as it's available until I can afford it, yeah...

I've found one kit available, and from what -neu- has told me, they're not great kits...

-neu- ,

bad fit, flash, etc.?

The KP costs around 50 bucks... I want to hear from some folks who've built 'em before I go nuts...

Eduard has an entire set of p/e stuff to detail it - cockpit, exterior, you name it...

I'm a little cautious about sinking +/- 100 bucks into a model; I've got a year to build and hone my skills, though...

Rationalization: You Gotta Love It!

HSteve- Is the 1/48 KOPRO gonna be a SU-25 kit?

balta1- Welcome aboard, just remember no starting untill December 1st. Updated roster.

Hi! 

I'd like to join in on the GB it that's okay. I will build the 1/48 Revell Mi-24D.

Well the blst models set for the T-55 arived today and after a quick inspection I must say I'm very happy with it.  The only part that I can see that is damaged (beyond repair) are the drivers view ports.  This is not a big deal as I'll just use a combo of kit part, Blast and scratchbuilding to fix it up.

Cheers 

HSteve - Sorry about the delayed response, yes you can add as many builds as you want. I'll update the roster very soon.

 BearTrappers- Guys I'm sorry I didn't get the badges up this weekend. I had to get some supplies for my studio class and finish up a few architectural projects. But I'll try to get the badges finished very, very soon. (that way we can have the vote.)

Guys I'm not much of an expert on Soviet camo or colors for tanks so could someone give me a heads up on what color green my 70's vintage T-55 should be?

I can get hold of Vallejo, Tamiya, Gunze, Model Master Enamel & Humbrol enamel paints.

Thanks

-Neu- wrote:

HSteve: If you need a few extras for your Su-25, I have a small fret of FAB-500 bombs and some drop tanks from an old Kopro kit that I built as a kid, which I don't mind parting with. Its a bit crude but with a bit of work it would give you some more options if you want them.

That's awesome, buddy! I'll PM...

What kit will the hind be?

I'm thinking of adding a 1/48 KOPRO in w/some Eduard details... 

Start w/ the RoG, end w/ the KP kit...

We've got a year, right?

mg. ,

Can I do that? Add another kit?