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Achtraden! 8x8 Group Build '09-'10

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  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Saturday, February 13, 2010 7:25 PM

THanks Andrew just reading through that page was interesting, 2 of the 4  pic's are or Irish vehicles. I didn't know we had 8X8 vehicles i thought we only had the 6x6.

Thanks,

Terry.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, February 12, 2010 5:12 PM

Gygax -- not at all, welcome aboard! i'll add you to the leaderboard, and look forward to seeing your Puma -- it's certainly been the most popular type in this build. I'll be most interested to see your rendition.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by gygax on Friday, February 12, 2010 1:44 PM

Hello there!

Is it too late to join in on this one?  I have an Italeri 234/2 Puma (1/35th scale) that is dying to be constructed and added to the recon division forming here. 

Lemme know, and happy building.

 

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  • From: Cary, North Carolina
Posted by M1Carbine on Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:00 AM

Mike - the moulding detail is excellent from what I can tell in the pictures.  I will have to pick that kit up.

 

Bob

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:46 AM

KW13 -- The Stryker is Trumpeter #00375. AFV Club brought out their version soon after this one but it would have to be going some to be substantially better than this, I've been very pleasantly surprised at the quality. Those more acquainted with the vehicle would probably be able to point out the inaccuracies or areas of moulding compromise, but so far she seems visually pretty sweet, and is a friendly build.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

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  • From: Hobart, Tasmania
Posted by Konigwolf13 on Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:43 AM

Terry best I can do is point you here. The Mowag Family tree. Past that I dont really know.

Andrew

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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:43 PM

Chris excellent Puma, the articulation of the wheels brings a great sense of realism to the model and I love the tire colour.

Andrew cool LAV.  Stupid question but does it share running components with the stryker.

Mike cool stryker, I thought I had it bad withthe centauro thingy, lumps bumps and grab handles, oh so many handles. Thanks for the tip with the periscopes, gonna try that one, sounds like a gem.

Terry.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:36 PM

Konigs, Mike......looking real good gents.  I love'em both.

 

Bob

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:36 AM

Thanks Mike and Nate

Mike, what brand is your LAV, er sorry  Stryker? Looks well detailed.

Well 5 or six houes work this evening got 1/2 the turret completed and everything on the hull finished except the small fiddle bits I dont want to break. I spent nearly an hour just doing one side storage area.

Will post pics tomorrow morning

Andrew

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:05 AM

Andrew -- excellent progress! You make me want to grab out that LAV from the stash and have a go myself! I'm really looking forward to seeing this one move along to completion!

I've made some progress on my Stryker. She's well along now, an hour each evening has got construction within reach of the finish line.

Here's a shot taken a few days ago, with forty-something parts added to the upper hull:

 

Shortly after this was taken I joined the upper and lower hulls, the fit was quite excellent and required only a little pressing here and there:

 

 

From this point there are a few dozen parts to go. The hatches were loosely attached, and removed for fitting of the periscopes. These were painted Humbrol bronze and masked with Tamiya tape in 1.5 x 5mm pieces. I was considering a topcoat of clear gloss with a smidgeon of red in it, but the bare bronze actually reminds me quite strongly of the prismatic orange colour the periscopes have in photos, so I decided to leave them as-is:

 

Appologies on the focus in that last shot. Next, finish the hatches and attach them, attach the headlight arrays, build up the weapon mount for the top hatch, smooth off one or two places, and think about the PE bits.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:24 AM

Looking good Andrew, really starting to take shape!Yes

Nate

 

 

 

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 6:37 PM

Chris, 

YesCHAMP! Yes It looks great after weathering for sure!  Glad you are done so you can get the badge! 

Not for me as everything has stopped for me because it is still way too cold for me to do airbrushing in my  garage... the temp has been in 20-30's for several weeks.  What is happening to the global warming... just another hoax? GRIN  I am afraid to take a risk to airbrush and ruin my work unless anybody has a suggestion.  Nope, I don't have an airbrushing vent or paint booth so I can not do it inside the house or my wife would be more than happy to kill me.  Super Angry

Andy

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  • From: Hobart, Tasmania
Posted by Konigwolf13 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 6:36 PM

Got some time yesturday, but amazing how much time PE stuff takes up. Oh well heres the current sitrep.

Andrew

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 4:00 PM

Wow! Nice job Chris. I love the articulated wheels, and the dusty look you've achieved.....well done!

Nate

 

 

 

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  • From: Cary, North Carolina
Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 11:52 AM

Chris................LOOKS SCHAWEEEEEEEET!

 

Bob

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  • From: Weymouth, Dorset, UK
Posted by chris hall on Monday, February 8, 2010 4:00 PM

Most of the rest of the work was time-consuming, but routine. Three coats of Future were followed by the decals, which were of Cartograf’s usual excellent quality. A further coat of Future over the decaled areas followed, followed by three days’ curing time.

Recessed detail, POL, and water stains were represented by oil paint pin washes, followed by three coats of Humbrol Mattcote. While this was curing for a couple of days, I painted the OVE and other detail stuff with Humbrol and Citadel acrylics.

I was depicting my model as it would have been in early Summer 1944, only a few months after it would have left the production line, so I decided not to over-do the weathering. I represented slight scratching and wear over heavily trafficked areas with tiny chips of soft lead pencil. Soft dry-brushing of tan and sand shades of Conté Crayon and chalk pastel dust served to blend colours together and tone them down, while Tamiya weathering powders served to add road dirt and grime on the lower hull and fenders.

Last of all, I added the radio aerials. The starfish aerial head came from the kit’s etched set (for some reason, the Griffon etched set doesn’t provide one), but the kit plastic item is pretty good. For the aerials themselves, I used lengths of thin brass rod, painted black.

And that was it. I quite enjoyed the build, though it did drag on from time to time. Originally, I had intended to add crew figures and stowage, and may yet, but not until later this year at the earliest. Here are some final piccies:

Comments and queries, as ever, welcome.

Cheers,

Chris.

 

 

Cute and cuddly, boys, cute and cuddly!
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  • From: Hobart, Tasmania
Posted by Konigwolf13 on Monday, February 8, 2010 6:23 AM

PS for those who have forgotten (and I dont blame you LOL) I building Trumpters ASLAV

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Monday, February 8, 2010 6:21 AM

Well its been along time since I showed my mug in here and having spent the best pasrt of the last hour catching up on everything, I  now feel up to date. Alot of very nice WWII armor, nice to see some modern stuff show its head Wink.

Got a little bit done just before christmas, and got alot more done last night. Underneath has finished assembly except for the propeller guards, and some started on top.

Here's were I was at not long after we started

 

Here's where I'm at after last night

I spent most of my availible time tonight catching up here, so I wont get much if any done tonight otherwise I hope to get an hour or four in tomorrow

Andrew

 

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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, February 8, 2010 3:44 AM

Hi Terry,

I haven't built the Italeri Puma, but I do have it in my stash along with the 234/1.I also have all three of  Dragon's 234's in addition to the Puma I just finished. Comparing the two manufacturers is like night and day............especially when it comes to the suspension. The Italeri's suspension is simplified, were as Dragon's is a work of art. I did post pics of the underside of my Puma during construction, so I'll refer you to them to see what I mean.

The Italeri kit isn't that bad really, it's just not up to today's standards.

Nate

 

 

 

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  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 6:13 PM

THanks, Mike Nate, Bob I hope to get real progress for this build. 

Nate that is one super puma.

Just a quick thought, I went back to page one and had a look at everything finished so far. Well the 234 chassis seems the most popular so far. I did not read all 18 pages of posts so far, but of the 234's how many are Italeri?

I really can't tell the difference from the photos. I have bought the Dragon 234/2 and the 234/4, both beauties. 

I can say that from the day many moons ago that of the Italeri kits the 234/1 was "O'kayish" , the Puma was brilliant but I cannot remember how old that lady is, I built mine in the late 80's and do remember that an article did appear in FSM at one stage on how to articulate the steering. I build Italeri's 234/3 but at the time I could not get much reference about the mount for the short 75mm, I presumed it was similar to the 251/9 stummel. Now here is the corker....... Italeri's  234/4 was ......well.....it was "POO" the gun mount was pure fantasy.

I would love to hear from somebody who has built both kits recently. Just an opinion on how lets say the dragon PUMA looks against the Italeri. All I know that was wrong with the Italeri PUMA was that the turret was slightly too tall.

If anybody has any thoughts I would like to hear.

P.s. in the end I would go Dragon but I am kinda only interested from a point of nostalgia.

Thanks.

Terry.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 4:26 PM

Terry -- interesting beast! Can't wait to see her come together!

Nate -- fabulous finish! I know what you mean by modeller's block, but this one is a showpiece to be proud of. I especially like the rusting of the mufflers, it's very convincing, as is the overall finish, the arbrushing, the weathering, paint chipping, PE work, you name it... Top marks on a superb build! The lead post has been updated.

Chris -- you should be next to finish, I look forward to adding yours to the leaderboard too.

We now have six finished builds, three of which are Pumas, and the seventh will be as well, in addition to a 232. But with Terry's Centauro and my Stryker we have some modern eight-leggers coming along too. Speaking of which, I have four small subassemblies and about 25 small dressing parts to go. I'll be joining the hull soon, and she'll be ready for paint in no time. WIP pic of the upper hull soon!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Nachtflieger on Sunday, February 7, 2010 1:28 PM

Thanks Chris! I know exactly what you mean about interfering with other projects. I felt like I HAD to finish this kit for this GB before I could do anything else, and it was really starting to drag out. It was really a very nice kit to build, but I wanted to start other kits, and felt I had to finish this one first.

Nate

 

 

 

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  • From: Weymouth, Dorset, UK
Posted by chris hall on Sunday, February 7, 2010 12:03 PM

That's fine work, Nate! I'm calling my Dragon Puma done too. Diminishing marginal returns have set in with a vengeance, it's been on the workbench for more than two months, and is beginning to interfere with other projects. Final piccies and comments tomorrow morning UK time, when I should have better light to work with.

Cheers,

Chris.

 

Cute and cuddly, boys, cute and cuddly!
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  • From: Connecticut, USA
Posted by Nachtflieger on Sunday, February 7, 2010 7:29 AM

Hi Guys,

I'm calling this one done. I don't know why, but I came down with a SERIOUS case of modeler's block with it when it was almost done. Next on my plate will be something totally different for me: a WWI bi-plane!

Anyway, here she is. Feel free to comment.

Nate

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Sunday, February 7, 2010 4:55 AM

Looks good Terry.Smile  That's a rather unusual drive system the beast has.

Nate

 

 

 

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  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Saturday, February 6, 2010 9:33 PM

Well I finally got some progress shots taken of my Centauro. So far so good no real problems. Well I'm so late it would be better if I got on with the pic's.

The hull, its actually quite big but seems that the kit wil finish quite low in ride height.

On the bottom I found it easier to assemble the drive shafts away from the hull.

Lower hull and suspension just finished.

The add on armour plate is veisble on the front.

I simply stippled the plastic to replicate the anti-slip plating as on the real vehicle it is not very prominent.

One thing that has slowed me slightly is the additional armour, I noticed that the kit has the welds cast into the kit in certain areas. I decided to do most of the welds on the upper hull as much as possible. I'm only using available reference.

THis link I found to be a great source so far.

http://www.afvplanet.com/especial/centauro/index.html

 

Terry.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 3:29 PM

Looking sweet Mike.

 

Bob

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 3:00 PM

Lookin good Mike. It reminds me of an LAV on steroids!Big Smile

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 5:12 AM

Hi guys,

First WIP shot of the Stryker. I've pretty much followed the construction order in the plans, which I rarely do, but it seemed as good as any on a subject with so many parts. Here's the lower hull subasembly, including all differentials, axles, steering linkages and shockers, 76 parts in total (six more left off as yet as they're small and strike me as fragile:

 

That's four of the wheels and all the jerrycans too, another 20 parts. There's a fair way to go yet but it's been a good build so far!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:17 AM

Chris -- that's a most unusual approach, I'll be most interested to see how it all comes together in the weathering stage. I agree, trying to freehand lines so thin is a highly specialized form of airbrushing, if I can manage 5mm wide I'm very happy with myself, to go narrower than that is a big ask. So congrats on finding a very novel solution!

Well, guys, after looking at it for a long time, I've cut sprue of Trumpeter's M1126 Stryker:

 

This is late-tool Trumpeter and I'm very impressed, their engineering seems logical and parts are tooled with great care for maximum detail. The plastic is tough but not brittle and reacts readily with liquid cement. Fit of the main hull parts is nigh perfect, and sprue attachment points are small (high pressure moulding) and in discrete places where they can be smoothed out with minimum work.

I've done some work on the underside today, making up three of the four differentials and stub axle assemblies (six parts each), and adding the applique armor under the bow. There are lots of parts but it has the feel of a clean build without any nasty surprises in store, so hopefully this one will just flow along.

Cheers, Mike/starhawk379

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

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