Monogram Mafia Group Build

I would be in for Hawk/Testors GB. I would even use..................................SALT CHIPPING

Thanks for letting me live.

No sweat... I don't need ta whack anyone just yet anyway...Perhaps I'll one day need a favor from you...

 For a next term of this great GB would you consider allowing more monogram/ revell/ revell AG kits?

I'v considered it, yes... I don't want to add Revell Germany though....  

What I'd LIKE to do in Round Two is add the pre-merger Revell kits... A "MonoVell Mafia", perhaps...

 I was also thinking more of a "Classic Kit" GB even later on, and adding the other guys that get "Poo-pooed" regualarly, like HAWK (to include the Testor's reboxes), Lindberg, Aurora, AMT, Life-Like, Glenco, Heller, and the like... I still want to keep it "60s & 70s tech"... I need to do a lot more research before I announce anything like that though... 

Hans,

For a next term of this great GB would you consider allowing more monogram/ revell/ revell AG kits? There is so much neat stuff done by these companies that is often looked down on as inferior... Just a thought there.

Richard

Hans von Hammer

Unfortunate, KM...

However, don't give up ALL hope... Given the enthusiasm this GB created, there WILL be a "Round Two"...

Thanks for letting me live. Monogram is still my favorite. I wish Revell would bring back Monogram's 1/825 scale carriers. Weird scale yeah, but they had the only out-of-the-box CV-67 JFK there was.

Unfortunate, KM...

However, don't give up ALL hope... Given the enthusiasm this GB created, there WILL be a "Round Two"...

I guess I'm dead. Not to the halfway point yet with the "Vette, and havent cut sprue on the Eagle yet. Only 11 days left since start of my first. Cant build an Eagle in 11 days regardless of the "Vette..... Just make sure to use 2 blocks on each leg when you throw me in the river.......

I havent forgotten this group Don Hammer I have P-51D Passion Wagon back on the bench got the flaps glued on and the windscreen. So it should be ready for masking this weekend, WIP pictures will be coming soon.

Hans von Hammer

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Crossovers, WIPs OK as long as they aren't over 50% compete... 

 

From Page One:

Crossovers, WIPs OK as long as they aren't over 50% compete... 

Don Hammerloni.... I am completing a white box F-15 for the Wild Wings GB.. Can this be added to my builds here to increase my standing in your familia.. ?

respectly... P38jl

I filled 'em with stretched sprue and liquid cement, then sanded, then re-scribed the lines..

stikpusher

Reasoned:

For the love of Pete, I'm starting my final build (B-25J) and has anyone else had "gap issues" with the engine nacelles attaching to the wings??  This isn't just a putty fix gap, it's rather significant (e;g;, 1/8" on either side.  I didn't see in the kit reviews online that this was a major issue, nose weight yes but I think I may have to use styrene filler or any ideas??.  I'd attach a pic but at work.

 

Yup, my stalled B-25 has had that issue. I used gel super glue to fill it.

Yeah, I think that may be a better way, I'm not confident enough to cut and shave pieces of styrene (besides the fact I'm too lazy to put that much in at this point, very disappointing)  I may have to tweak the wing dihedral a bit to to try and narrow it up.

Cant remember my mitchell having gaps that severe in that area.... As i recall it went together just fine with glue and masking tape all around as clamps....

Richard

Reasoned

For the love of Pete, I'm starting my final build (B-25J) and has anyone else had "gap issues" with the engine nacelles attaching to the wings??  This isn't just a putty fix gap, it's rather significant (e;g;, 1/8" on either side.  I didn't see in the kit reviews online that this was a major issue, nose weight yes but I think I may have to use styrene filler or any ideas??.  I'd attach a pic but at work.

Yup, my stalled B-25 has had that issue. I used gel super glue to fill it.

troublemaker66

I was referring to how I made mention that I used salt chipping on my Corsair and Hans posting that he thought that the rubber cement way was easier. A little later I posted how I buzzed up the GB when I made mention of salt chipping. It was meant as a joke, if I offended you I apologize for that. I was not trying to imply that anyone got his britches burnt with what was posted. Sorry

Hence your forum handle, "Troublemaker66"   just kidding!  Seriously, I didn't take it amiss either, your post or any of the other responses about the technique.  I think we had a good discussion about it, a mix of technical info, salted, as it were, with opinion

I probably won't use it any more, because it is a little more effort than need be, for results that I can get with simpler methods.

BTW, Zero is stalled right now, got IJN dark green and light grey on it, need to touch up some spots where there was bleeding under the masking, but then I realized that I did it a$$-backwards--I have to paint recognition markings, which I should have laid down first, and masked over.  D'oh.

Best regards,

Brad

Haven't gotten to that point with mine, but I have noticed that when dry fitting the fuselage halves together I'm missing a nice portion of the fuse where the top turret is.  It'll be interesting, that's for sure..

For the love of Pete, I'm starting my final build (B-25J) and has anyone else had "gap issues" with the engine nacelles attaching to the wings??  This isn't just a putty fix gap, it's rather significant (e;g;, 1/8" on either side.  I didn't see in the kit reviews online that this was a major issue, nose weight yes but I think I may have to use styrene filler or any ideas??.  I'd attach a pic but at work.

MKelley

troublemaker66:

 

I never took it as don't use this or that. I just thought it was kind of funny how that little mention of salt chipping was like throwing a match on a puddle of gas. Kind of like Yosemite Sam when his "britches are burning"  

 

Who`s "britches are burning"? I`m asking because I think I`m the only one that went on at length that was pro-salt weathering and there was nothing "explosive" on my end...lol. That`s why they make chocolate and vanilla...and a thousand other flavors...don`t like one then try another...

[/quote]Nope...no offence...it`s all good...prolly judt read it wrong like I usually do...

Hans von Hammer

Who`s "britches are burning"?

Yosemite Sam's...

Who`s "britches are burning"?

Yosemite Sam's...

troublemaker66

 

I never took it as don't use this or that. I just thought it was kind of funny how that little mention of salt chipping was like throwing a match on a puddle of gas. Kind of like Yosemite Sam when his "britches are burning"  

[/quote] I was referring to how I made mention that I used salt chipping on my Corsair and Hans posting that he thought that the rubber cement way was easier. A little later I posted how I buzzed up the GB when I made mention of salt chipping. It was meant as a joke, if I offended you I apologize for that. I was not trying to imply that anyone got his britches burnt with what was posted. Sorry

I use Elmer's...

As for going on, it depends.. I use a stabbing, stippling motion with the applictor brush... While the "blobs" can get "high", they don't really get "wide", if you understand what I'm trying say... A build-up of cement of ok... For smaller areas, and their resulting smaller "chips", I use #2 round that's been cut to about 1/8th" long bristles.. Below is typical of the large brush:

[/quote]Who`s "britches are burning"? I`m asking because I think I`m the only one that went on at length that was pro-salt weathering and there was nothing "explosive" on my end...lol. That`s why they make chocolate and vanilla...and a thousand other flavors...don`t like one then try another...

Hans von Hammer

MKelley:

Boy I sure got the GB buzzing by just mentioning....... salt chipping............

 

LOL.. Yeah, well... I don't like to tell others how to do their stuff, but I do chime in with the "Old School" tips and techniques when someone has re-invented the wheel...  (Not to mention FSM's  "Reader Tips" that someties show up as "new" when actually, I first read about them in something like, FSM's April '85 or Scale Modeler November 78, lol)...

The main thing about about the salt-chiping technique is like what TM pointed to... Some can do it first time out, some can't, some have trouble with removing the salt, etc..

Not so with the rubber cement masking... It's usually a 100% success-rate, even for first-time users (although I recommend a short practice session and  try it on a hangar-queen first, just in case)...  It also works for masking cockpits (just cover the canopy in cement) and for masking those pesky little windows that have to be installed from inside fuselages... 

While I do see some benefit in salt-masking in certain areas where the fit is tight, it seems to me as it's more labor-intensive than it needs to be...

Bottom line is that I'm not saying, "Don't use salt".. I'm just saying, "There's an easier way"...

Hans-

What brand of rubber cement do you use so I can try it?

One advantage I can see for salt over rubber is that salt is granular. Depending on how "nuts" you want to get with your weathering, you could really get a sand-blasted, debris-strike, look to leading edges of wings ,props, cowls, etc with very sparsely placed salt. Probably look awesome in larger scale models. I`m guessing rubber cement goes on blobby..for the lack of a better word..lol...but not sure.

I really do want to try rubber cement, who knows..if it does give the same result as salt but alot less work, I`ll be the biggest convert.

MKelley

Boy I sure got the GB buzzing by just mentioning....... salt chipping............

LOL.. Yeah, well... I don't like to tell others how to do their stuff, but I do chime in with the "Old School" tips and techniques when someone has re-invented the wheel...  (Not to mention FSM's  "Reader Tips" that someties show up as "new" when actually, I first read about them in something like, FSM's April '85 or Scale Modeler November 78, lol)...

The main thing about about the salt-chiping technique is like what TM pointed to... Some can do it first time out, some can't, some have trouble with removing the salt, etc..

Not so with the rubber cement masking... It's usually a 100% success-rate, even for first-time users (although I recommend a short practice session and  try it on a hangar-queen first, just in case)...  It also works for masking cockpits (just cover the canopy in cement) and for masking those pesky little windows that have to be installed from inside fuselages... 

While I do see some benefit in salt-masking in certain areas where the fit is tight, it seems to me as it's more labor-intensive than it needs to be...

Bottom line is that I'm not saying, "Don't use salt".. I'm just saying, "There's an easier way"...

Monogram =

MKelley

Boy I sure got the GB buzzing by just mentioning....... salt chipping............

Yeah its all your fault MKelly geeze

Hey Brad,

That sounds like a great idea; I really love the old Monogram kits.  I grew up with them, and am still amazed at how detailed they are, and how well they still fit, almost 50 years later.

 I picked up an original P-47D in "Gabby" Gabreski's markings a couple of years ago.  Built it over 30 years ago, and still have great memories of that kit.  I just recently broke the old cellophane and looked into the box.  It had the little color brochures  and everything.  It was like being a kid again.....

Another favorite is the old C-47 Skytrain; I still have one with the Shep Paine diorama 'how to'  booklet......Waiting for just the right moment to open that one up.  

This has been a wonderful experience so far; just reading everyone's posts, and seeing all the great work being done.  It's inspired me to get out my airbrush for the first time in about six years.  Learning all sorts of new tricks and techniques.  Although, I may steer clear of the salt weathering technique!! LOL

Boy I sure got the GB buzzing by just mentioning....... salt chipping............