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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, February 11, 2011 12:56 PM

Ok I am calling this one started, did some test fitting and stuff like that. I did find that I will have to use a resin ejection seat as the kit seat just isnt close at all to the one in the Streak Eagle. I dont like working with resin but sometimes I guess......... Embarrassed There will be some gizmology goin on though, a camera mount and camera over the pilots shoulder and a few other bits an pieces. Anyway heres the box art and test fitting session, I need to get to the LHS and get some paint for the cockpit before I can do much more.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by taxtp on Friday, February 11, 2011 2:26 PM

This is the Triumph TR-7, copyright MMI 1978. As you can see, it's a simple little curbside (kerbside) kit. I've been wanting to do one of these for years. Monogram also did a TR-7 SCCA racer, and a TR-8, which I also have in the stash. This is the only road ready TR-7 kit ever released in 1/24 . Gunze did a TR-7 rally car (stashed), later to be re-released by Airfix, and I think Entex did a 1/20 one too. I've completed a couple of TR-3s, and a TR-2, and this one will fit nicely into that theme.

Here's my start, nice and easy with the seats. Since taking this photo I've puttied it up, and also detached and tidied up the gear stick, dash board and steering wheel.

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Friday, February 11, 2011 2:29 PM

Well, I got a lot of work done on the airocobra when a major setback occured.  Apparently the plastic got very brittle over the years and it kind of cracked in about twenty or places when I glued it shut and put a couple of elastic bands on it to hold the pieces together...  I am pretty sure it's hosed..

 

So since I am running out of old Monogram kits, about the only other one I might get done in time is this one.

Is this one okay?  (1/48 Monogram Mosquito.)

I also have a more modern Monogram Mosquito (Copyright 1978, Monogram Models Inc. on the plastic.)  which I will have to use the decals from since the ones in this kit are completely bad.  Or I could probably just do the modern kit.  It's basically identical, just made quite a few years later.  I would kind of prefer to do the new one so I don't get any more nasty surprises with brittle plastic.  Let me know so I can get started on one of them.  Thanks

Rich

 

Hans von Hammer

Ok, People, listen up... Keep a bookmark (If you're still TBA on a kit) on Page 4 where the GO/ NO GO list is at the top..

Some Kits have been changed as Stik and I find out about some origins. What was a "GO" may now be a "NO-GO" and vice-versa...

Last nite while we were talking Back-Channel,  he discovered and informed me he came across the info that  the B-24D is a   "GO" ...   Doesn't matter if it's a ProModeler or Monogram, Monogram "Classic", or Revell boxing, it was first releaed in 1983, meaning pre-merger..

Here's the link to the page:

 /forums/t/135482.aspx?PageIndex=4

It's a "Living Document" until 31 March... Some other kits status has changed too, so check your builds..

Also, check the roster on Page One in the first post and make sure I have you listed and listed correctly...

Grazie..

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by telsono on Friday, February 11, 2011 2:39 PM

Monogram did put out a 1/48th scale Curtiss SB2C helldiver in the 1960's. Characteristics of this kit was like the TBF Avenger that they offered. Retractable landing gear, folding wings, sliding canopy, and an operating bomb bay. Here is a link to one on sale. I remember making these and it is quite different from the later release being a pure Monogram product.

http://www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php?detail=18728&cat=Military%20Aircraft&manu=Monogram&scale=1/48

There was also a series of sports cars that came with fighter aircraft decals. A Porsche was one of them that I remember.

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, February 11, 2011 3:28 PM

Ok ok call me trouble a bad boy but Devil

I just finished a Monogram F-14A Tomcat copyright 1981, I also have Revells F-14A Tomcat copyright 1993 so I took me out to the mancave and opened the Revell boxing. I found the molds to be identical. The only differance is the manufacturer stamping on the bottom of the right elevator. Why do they always stamp them there geeze. The Monogram was stamped "MMI 1981" , the Revell is stamped "Revell China 1993". However as I said the molds are, or seem to be identical.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Friday, February 11, 2011 3:56 PM

vetteman42

Ok ok call me trouble but Devil

I just finished a Monogram F-14A Tomcat copyright 1981, I also have Revells F-14A Tomcat copyright 1993 so I took me out to the mancave and opened the Revell boxing. I found the molds to be identical. The only differance is the manufacturer stamping on the bottom of the right elevator. Why do they always stamp them there geeze. The Monogram was stamped "MMI 1981" , the Revell is stamped "Revell China 1993". However as I said the molds are, or seem to be identical.

Hey Pal,get your own name..Big Smile I think Hans is gonna go bonkers pretty soon with this stuff. If it`s a Monogram kit and it has an`86 date stamp or earlier (`85?) it`s pre-merger, it`s good. If it`s a re-boxing of an original Monogram kit, like your Tomcat seems to be, it`s also good.I`m guessing if Monogram made an F-14A in 1981 and Revell in `93, you prolly could bet the farm they`re the same molds.  OR , I could be totally wrong...it has happened many times before..lol...Wink

BTW....I just had to hack the date off the same location on my Shooting Star!

Len

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Friday, February 11, 2011 5:23 PM

That's weird.  My Monogram 1/48 F80 has the stamp inside the left fuselage half..  Must have been made at a different plant or something I guess.

 

troublemaker66

 

 

BTW....I just had to hack the date off the same location on my Shooting Star!

Len

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, February 11, 2011 7:12 PM

Vetteman and Tony, your status is updated..

Sparrow, the Mossie's fine... It's been around since the 60's, just finished that one up myself (white box, 1978 issue) a few months ago, but it was destroyed on the ground by a Tomcat... Sadly, not an F-14 in some kind of wierd re-make of The Final Countdown, but the furry kind of cat... (He's responsible for a fair number air-to-ground kills, including a B-17, 2 1/2 ton truck, air cmpressor, and an entire recovery team)

Telsono's right about the E-Bee-Doo-See (S B Deuce C, get it? That's the Marine Corps nickname for the Helldiver, according to an old friend of my Dad's who was a rear gunner/radio op on one)... The kit we want to build is the one with all the "operating features", not the PM kit.  Dunno who made it, but was NOT a Monogram kit.  All the Monogram Navy aircraft of that period had the retractable gear, swiveling guns, folding wings, dropping bombs/torps, etc...


The USN/USMC kits in the series were the F4F, F4U-4, F6F, SBD, SB2C, and TBF-1.  The others were the Zero, Spitfire IX and Me 109E. None had any cockpits to speak of.  I think that's about it for "working" models in 1/48th...

As for the data plaque in the kit, they got put about everywhere, the underside of the elevator with "MMI" being quite common... BTW Sparrow, I have a "1977 White box" issue F-80 and the data stamp is located on the bottom of the elevator (MMI), and on the inside of the lower wing.  The (MMI) is also on the elevator on the 1983 (Box art) issue, as well as the inside of the lower wing,lol.. 

Troublemaker has got it right though.. Any date-stamp 1985 and earlier is a GO,some 1986 kits are as well, since they're likely Monogram-engineered kits, but make sure that it's not a reboxing of another manufacturer's kit (like the 1970s WW1 Aurora kits)...  Some later ones are ok too, just don't get all bent about it.. If ya don't know, and can't find an answer, ask away... But it's much easier for all involved if you try to do some homework on your own first.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, February 11, 2011 7:21 PM

BTW Sparrow, I updated you to the Mossie, vice the P-39..

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Friday, February 11, 2011 7:31 PM

Thanks.  I'lll do the white box kit.  I don't trust the old plastic anymore.  Hopefully I won't have issues with this one.  I really hate buying open box kits...

 

Rich

 

Hans von Hammer

BTW Sparrow, I updated you to the Mossie, vice the P-39..

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, February 11, 2011 7:35 PM

troublemaker66

 

 vetteman42:

 

Ok ok call me a bad boy but Devil

I just finished a Monogram F-14A Tomcat copyright 1981, I also have Revells F-14A Tomcat copyright 1993 so I took me out to the mancave and opened the Revell boxing. I found the molds to be identical. The only differance is the manufacturer stamping on the bottom of the right elevator. Why do they always stamp them there geeze. The Monogram was stamped "MMI 1981" , the Revell is stamped "Revell China 1993". However as I said the molds are, or seem to be identical.

 

Hey Pal,get your own name..Big Smile 

Len

CowboyOops Oh my !! I beg your pardon Troublemaker66 Surprise I will correct that in short order, an never never ever do it again. Cool

Hans best of luck to you sir on Monday, hope its not serious and hope to see you back with us soon.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Friday, February 11, 2011 8:00 PM

vetteman42

 troublemaker66:

 

 vetteman42:

 

Ok ok call me a bad boy but Devil

I just finished a Monogram F-14A Tomcat copyright 1981, I also have Revells F-14A Tomcat copyright 1993 so I took me out to the mancave and opened the Revell boxing. I found the molds to be identical. The only differance is the manufacturer stamping on the bottom of the right elevator. Why do they always stamp them there geeze. The Monogram was stamped "MMI 1981" , the Revell is stamped "Revell China 1993". However as I said the molds are, or seem to be identical.

 

Hey Pal,get your own name..Big Smile 

Len

 

CowboyOops Oh my !! I beg your pardon Troublemaker66 Surprise I will correct that in short order, an never never ever do it again. Cool

Hans best of luck to you sir on Monday, hope its not serious and hope to see you back with us soon.

Vetteman-  You didn`t have to fix your post! I was just trying to be funny..Propeller  And Hans...Ditto on the best of luck...I`ll keep an eye on tings till ya get back!

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, February 11, 2011 8:15 PM

Troublemaker66 hey I thought is was funny too and decided to play Clown no worries here Len Toast Gotta be able to poke a bit of fun in the groups ya know.    

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Saturday, February 12, 2011 2:33 AM

Hey Vetteman42, since you are going to be building the Eagle as the Streak Eagle, are you going to be using any of the kit decals? My issue of the kit, being touted as a "C", with featherlesss burner cans, also got a cheap decal sheet that is quite lacking in the stencil department.....

 

I know where there are aftermarket Eagle stencil set for sale, but it's more than the kit retailed for.......

 

Good luck Hans on the surgery! Dont let 'em  -ectomy, -oscopy, or resect any of the wrong parts!

Darrin

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, February 12, 2011 1:52 PM

Kustommodeler1 this the old kit sheet and has a gazillion stencils on it. I need 9 of them for the Streak Eagle but the rest are yours if you want them. You may have to use a decal saver on them as the sheet is over 20 years old, copyright is 1979. But the colors are good, not faded, and the carrier film looks good. Gamera was kind enough to send me the rest of the markings I need.

PM me your address and I will pop the sheet in the mail for ya

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Saturday, February 12, 2011 5:24 PM

Thanks Vetteman! you got a PM!! just pop a note in and let me know how much I owe ya!!

 

This means a lot as the kit is a Birthday present from my son and I want it to be the best it can beToast

 

Here's a link where I introduced it.

 

/forums/t/134945.aspx

Darrin

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Posted by swingr1121 on Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:42 PM

Hey, Don Hammer, I would like to be a part of your ever-expanding enterprise..  I'd like to get in with a P-40B and a B-25J, both 1:48.  What do you think?

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Posted by MKelley on Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:53 PM

Well gentlemen I have started the Mustang. I plan on dropping the flaps and having the gunbay open for this one. I was digging around the spare decals and found an original Detroit Miss sheet from one of the first D that I bought. I am hoping that they will be good still. I figure since I am only 100 miles west of Detroit why not a Mustang with the name Detroit. A couple of photos to show progress

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:27 PM

Kustommodeler PM received, I will get it in the mail Tuesday. I am paying it forward as someone was kind enough to help me out with this build. All I ask is that you do the same when you can.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Sunday, February 13, 2011 3:00 PM

Sparrowhyperion

That's weird.  My Monogram 1/48 F80 has the stamp inside the left fuselage half..  Must have been made at a different plant or something I guess.

 

 troublemaker66:

 

 

BTW....I just had to hack the date off the same location on my Shooting Star!

Len

 

Yep..what`s more wierd is that my kit has a Revell 1977 copyright stamp on the inside bottom port wing along with the Monogram stamp on the bottom port elevator...maybe they had some old sprues lying around and decided to use `em up..lol...no stamps in the fuselage..thank goodness.

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, February 13, 2011 8:00 PM

swingr1121

Hey, Don Hammer, I would like to be a part of your ever-expanding enterprise..  I'd like to get in with a P-40B and a B-25J, both 1:48.  What do you think?

Sounds like a plan...

You're in...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, February 13, 2011 8:05 PM

Ok, you mugs, listen up...

I just finished the few house-keeping details here, and now I'm gonna spend some time with the Ju-87, get her a bit farther along than she is, hopefully get a few WIP pics in before I head out for the hospital in the AM... I gotta be on the road NLT 0600...

Meanwhile, take your questions or gripes to StikPusher, have fun, and just don't nobody shoot nobody...

Everything goes ok, I'll be back home on my birthday, the 18th... If something DOESN'T go OK, I'll be back home before then...Whistling

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Posted by MKelley on Sunday, February 13, 2011 8:34 PM

Hope everything goes well for you HVH.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, February 13, 2011 8:45 PM

Good luck and a speedy recovery Don Hans. I'll keep an eye on things here...:bigeyes:

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by swingr1121 on Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:02 PM

Good luck Hans.  Just gotta say though that Friday the 18th isn't a great day...  It's my Mother In Law's B-day too..  Be driving down to Mobile, AL for that.  Here's to a speedy recovery.

 

Mike

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:02 PM

Lol Hans..  You are starting to talk just like my Uncle Lou.  Safe Journey.

Rich

 

Hans von Hammer

Ok, you mugs, listen up...

I just finished the few house-keeping details here, and now I'm gonna spend some time with the Ju-87, get her a bit farther along than she is, hopefully get a few WIP pics in before I head out for the hospital in the AM... I gotta be on the road NLT 0600...

Meanwhile, take your questions or gripes to StikPusher, have fun, and just don't nobody shoot nobody...

Everything goes ok, I'll be back home on my birthday, the 18th... If something DOESN'T go OK, I'll be back home before then...Whistling

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:20 PM

Tanks for da well-wishes, yous Wise-guys...

Now get back to freakin' woik...

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:32 PM

OK Boss, but I just finished a R/M kit... but's new tooled post merger...Whistling

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:36 PM

I am waiting on paint for my build, cant get too serious about it till Tuesday Tongue Tied

Hans best to you tomorrow and hurry back. Just wont be the same around here without you crackin the whip

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, February 14, 2011 8:39 AM

there will now be a brief intermission... approximatly 229 minutes long. Whistling

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