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Panzer III and Its Variants GB

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:37 AM

Chazzer, I am still here... please tell us you didn't go all the way.  Only FIVE more days... hang in there.  On serious side, how is you doing now as it has been weeks since the snake bites?  I hope you can handle this GB when it rolls out...

 

Andy

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:27 AM

terry35

Hi, Andy could you change me for a 10.5cm Sturmhaubitz 42 Ausf.G the zimmed kit. Kit No.6454, Dragon.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Terry.

Terry- That's GREAT!  We will see plenty of StuG III Ausf G so I am glad that you are going to build something unique like that StuH.  Rob will be building one too.  That would be fun to watch...

Roster has been updated few minutes ago. 

Andy

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:34 PM

Chazzer

Andy!!.................Mike!..where are you guyz?...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/RoDaJoKy/Smileys/hlplionl.gif

Chazz: Right here, buddy.  Haven't been real active.  Doing real world stuff and dealing with my own cloudy days. Umbrella

You can start on your StuG real soon.  Looking forward to WIP photos that I learn from. Big Smile

Be well and do good. Toast

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by Chazzer on Saturday, June 25, 2011 8:09 PM

Andy!!.................Mike!..where are you guyz?...

ChazzerBlack Eye

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, June 25, 2011 7:13 PM

Hi, Andy could you change me for a 10.5cm Sturmhaubitz 42 Ausf.G the zimmed kit. Kit No.6454, Dragon.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Terry.

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  • From: The Great North Woods, Maine
Posted by Chazzer on Friday, June 24, 2011 7:46 AM

One week to go. I know I canIknowIcanIknowIcanIknowIcan.................

ChazzerBlack Eye

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:58 PM

satch_ip

Come to San Antonio.  Gary at Hill Country Hobbies has a full selection of Vallejo, Gunze Mr Color, and MM Enamels. 

Love Gary's paint selection. One area of the shop where HCH completely blows Kings out of the water (I dig the Floquil railroad stuff sometimes, but I'd rather have Gunze, and man their stocks of MM enamel, Tamiya and Vallejo have staggered lately).

 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by satch_ip on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:48 PM

Come to San Antonio.  Gary at Hill Country Hobbies has a full selection of Vallejo, Gunze Mr Color, and MM Enamels. 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:29 PM

Now that my Pz.IV is off the bench, I'm starting to turn my thinking to the Vorpanzer. And my thoughts are turning toward...my first diorama. 

Now if I could just find some $*$(@(#!# Panzer gray. My LHS is completely out of it in Model Master, Vallejo, and Tamiya. WTF?

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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  • From: imperial beach, ca
Posted by malone duke on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:43 PM
Thanks a bunch. Finally was able to get luckymodels up on my phone and found two sets for the j. Gotta start savin some pennies.

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Posted by armor86 on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:37 PM

I'm currently building a Pz III Ausf. G (another group build on Rommel DAK) and found the Eduard set for the Ausf F provides the tool fasteners / clamps along with other details .... I'm also using the Eduard set for the Ausf J for mine Ausf J Initial Production project. I have the Dragon Ausf. H and its very detailed out ... so may not use much other than the fasteners for tools mounted on the side fenders ... note the Ausf F etch detail set has the wrong rear mud flaps ... the Ausf J set has the correct ones. 

 


Dan

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Posted by Chazzer on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:56 PM

Whew!..so close...........still fighting....the...urge.........demons..trying to take....over.....my..mind!.....need to just look...won't touch....just a little.....fondel...just a bit....smells like styrene..........losing control...giving in....where's the Sammy Adams..oh boy.....Stug....Tamaya.....aftermarket.....jerry...cans....stowage.......tracks..need tracks...glue smells good....getting stronger.......ahhh....acrylics...mmmmm.....need a  nap..gettnig sleepy...Mike, Andy...need help....so tired....ZZZ....zzz....

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ChazzerBlack Eye

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Posted by malone duke on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:30 PM
Having a hard time finding a detail set for an ausf h. Any ideas? Can I use a set from a different ausf.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, June 20, 2011 10:28 AM

What's it now, 10 days?

I'm nearing the end on the Pz.IV. Hopefully it won't take me three more days, much less ten. 

Planning to have the bench all nice and cleared for the Vorpanzer come July 1!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Monday, June 20, 2011 10:17 AM

deafpanzer

 Today is my birthday so I am allowed to fondle my Pz III Ausf E, right?  Big Smile

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! BalloonsToastCakeBig Smile

Go ahead and stroke the Panzer III, but wash your hands afterwards.

 

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, June 20, 2011 9:55 AM

Carlos-  You are lucky!  Bill is currently building a Dragon 1/35 Wirbelwind with Zimmerit.  Check it out... he always do great WIPs with so much details.  You will see plenty of information about zimm in this one...

/forums/p/136601/1429146.aspx#1429146 

Hope this helps... Yes

Guys- Man, only TEN more days to go... hope Chazzer makes it. Tongue Tied  Today is my birthday so I am allowed to fondle my Pz III Ausf E, right?  Big Smile

Andy

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Posted by carsanab on Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:29 PM

...a little help....as I mentioned, in preparing for the GB i figuered I would get my "armor legs" back by building a Wirbelwind....now it calls for zimmerit in certain areas but when I look at some pics I see some without the coating and other with it in areas different from the instructions...can someone please guide me on the placement of the stuff on a wirbelwind??

thanks

carlos

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Posted by detailfreak on Friday, June 17, 2011 9:57 PM

                        Major,you may be in luck!  Our local thrift store may have a copy of Photoshop for Dummies,probably a couple of bucks. I'm going back there and pick up a set of old dickens short stories for my collection.I'll reply tommorrow.

                                                     Greg "Detailfreak"RowleyYes

 Andy,I keep forgetting to dropthat patch in the box.

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, June 17, 2011 8:30 AM

Chazzer:  Get a grip!!  Not much longer.

I confess that opened the kit box yesterday and laid out all of the AM stuff to go with it. Embarrassed

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, June 17, 2011 8:30 AM

Chazzer:  Get a grip!!  Not much longer.

I confess that opened the kit box yesterday and laid out all of the AM stuff to go with it. Embarrassed

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

  • Member since
    January 2011
  • From: The Great North Woods, Maine
Posted by Chazzer on Friday, June 17, 2011 7:58 AM

Guys, I'm on the verge of doing it again. Need help....losing control.....can't fight the urge.....oh no.......need....to.......soon.....just for a minute..........I...can't stop myself......beem me otta here Scotty...hurry......come in Scotty....anyone.....can,t sto...o.....o...p! He....l..........................................................................

ChazzerBlack Eye

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:28 PM

No problem.  I'd volunteer, but I just purchased Photoshop and I can barely start the program.  I need a "Photoshop for Olde Pharts" book.

I'm at my best when making unnecessary snarky comments from the back row of desks.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:41 PM

MAJ Mike

How's the GB Badge coming? 

Hey Mike!  I am sorry I missed your question earlier.  I can't believe I haven't started working on our GB badge!  I did try few weeks ago but I didn't like how it came out because my photo shopping skill really sucks. 

Wondering if there is somebody who is good at making GB badges can make one for us.  I had one in mind... a best picture of Panzer III then it will be marked with large roman numerals 'III' like this...

Is anybody interested to give this a shot?  We can make second badge for those who are building a StuG. 

 

Andy

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  • From: Illinois
Panzer III Ausf. J Early version (Initial production - Sep - Dec 1941)
Posted by armor86 on Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:57 PM

Researching (And Yes I have opened the kit) on the Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. 'J' - Initial Production / early version and reviewing a lot of material (photos) of panzers in North Africa which provide details on paint, unit markings, equipment and gear stored on the vehicles.  I have found several examples of early Pz III Js in DAK service.  However, the kit (DML 6463) only comes with Russia/Eastern Europe markings (not a big deal), but also does not come with the extra filters use for the tropical environment vehicles, or the kit instructions don't call out the filters as an option. I think the extra filters are included (K16 and 17s).

Has any one build the kit before ... additional at some point in the Pz III production every vehicle received the extra filters regardless of the theater it was shipped off too. The engine deck is different on early Js from late Js. Does anyone in the group have photos of Pz. III operating in Russia / Moscow theater in late 1941, DML instructions calls for overall german grey, however would have the crews white washed / painted the vehicles during their first winter. Reading about their first winter accounts, many supply issues were encounter, though they may have found / used captured material. 

I currently have DML / Cyber kits - E, G, H, initial J, 2 in 1 Pz III J (late), Trop L, Ns, and an older Imperial Series M. Research material include Panzers in the Sand Vol I and 2, (excel source), No. 2 Pz III Achtung Panzer (excel book), Squadron/signal pubs Pz III, and several Concord Publication books with numerous photos of Pz IIIs. See several examples of winter camo in early 1942 and later. Looking around for any later 1941 photos of early Pz IIIs or IVs operating in Northern Russia. 

 


Dan

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Posted by deafpanzer on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:19 PM

Boyd, we better listen to your friend Dupes because he knows where you live.  We'd hate for you to disappear mysteriously... Tongue Tied

15 more days to go...

Andy

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:23 PM

That is a good point, Marc.

I had thought about you poor dial up souls out there.... but then decided to throw you under the bus Devil.

The logistical issues would definately seem to preclude the MM type of approach, however...

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:32 PM

One of the issues with doing a Marder-Madness style setup is that anyone either on dialup or limited bandwidth is TOTALLY SCREWED (that would include me). Have you seen how big that first page of MM is? That's the only reason I never chimed in after the first week or two.

Secondly, getting everyone to be at their pc's at the same time the first "official" day of the GB would present a difficult (at best) logistical issue - it would also prevent any new entrants to the build, which I'm sure you wouldn't want, especially for one that runs for so long.

Just my 2 cents

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  • From: 41 Degrees 52.4 minutes North; 72 Degrees 7.3 minutes West
Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:54 PM

deafpanzer

Boyd- I thought about doing Marder Madness because I enjoyed that approach but it worked out great for a small group.  I don't think it will work for us that big... speaking of Marder Madness, have you seen Marc?  I don't think I have seen him online for a while. 

Yeah, I can see where that would be tricky. Even with Marder Madness, we had people jumping in with posts so the builders posts were not the first set and in order.

It would definately take a LOT of coordination. However, if you decide you want to try and pull it off, I'd be game for it. Think about it, and if you want, PM me and we can brainstorm a way to make it work.

Of course, if you just don't want to bother - that's OK too. Toast

 

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:47 PM

deafpanzer

I concur... will start a new thread on June 30th.  It will say 'The Official Panzer III and its Variants GB'.  Thanks for bringing this up... I agree it will be a long one with a good number of participants. Thanks Anthony! Beer

Boyd- I thought about doing Marder Madness because I enjoyed that approach but it worked out great for a small group.  I don't think it will work for us that big... speaking of Marder Madness, have you seen Marc?  I don't think I have seen him online for a while. 

I don't see a problem with a long thread, but you're the Oberkommando GB here.

This is working out pretty well.  I'll have a T-62 completed for the Made in USSR GB just in time to start the Panzer III.  Thanks again for setting this up.

How's the GB Badge coming? 

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 1:25 PM

I concur... will start a new thread on June 30th.  It will say 'The Official Panzer III and its Variants GB'.  Thanks for bringing this up... I agree it will be a long one with a good number of participants. Thanks Anthony! Beer

Boyd- I thought about doing Marder Madness because I enjoyed that approach but it worked out great for a small group.  I don't think it will work for us that big... speaking of Marder Madness, have you seen Marc?  I don't think I have seen him online for a while. 

Andy

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