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ARMOR - Towed Gun Group Build (ends 7/1/04)

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 7:55 AM
I got some good news today -- greatmodels.com was able to get an Azimut model for me for this build! It's the 1/35th scale Mack NO 7.5 ton prime mover, which I'm going to use to pull an 8" howitzer. I'm glad I'll be able to do this for the build -- I wanted to do something special because I got the ball rolling on this! Hopefully I will have it done by June to remember the 60th anniversary of D-Day in my own way.

As a secondary build, I'll probably wind up sticking the Flak 43 together too, if I build the big truck and gun in time, that is. I think I'll paint it as AAA for a volksgrenadier division in the Ardennes for the Bulge, dunkelgelb with whitewash. I haven't tried whitewash since I was a kid, so this might be a good opportunity to pay around with it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 9:07 PM
dday

Just look at the top right corner of the passage for the post you want to quote. You should see a page icon and the word Quote after it. Just click on the word and you will be taken to a reply page and the quote will be there. If you only want to quote a certain sentence or part of the message just delete the extra stuff like you would any normal text program.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 8:37 PM
I know this peobably should be in the "testing" forum but how do you do that quote thing? Oh yeah sorry I haven't been on lately, computer problems
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 6:38 PM
this is my reply above i didn't realize that i was under my hubby's name so now you know talk to everyone soon, going to work on my towed gun truck see ya later .
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Posted by lizardqing on Monday, February 9, 2004 6:29 PM
Kennethc,
ya i think i do alot better work with the aror build than anything else.
glad to be back on the Dark Side for a change of things here. my hubby
got my colors today so now i can start painting and stuff i'll let ya'll know soon of how things are going . i do belive i will have loads of fun with my kit. Smile [:)] Yeah!! [yeah]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 6:00 PM
OOO Kool!!! That gives me the excuse to buy another kit!!!!!

Now that little Jeep would need British markings right???
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 2:51 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by littlemoe

My question is how can i use the 6 pounder??


You bet you can! It certianly was a towed gun.

QUOTE: I know absolutly nutting about this stuff, ... did the british tractor evertow the 6 pounder???


It didn't need a big tractor to tow it. Officially, the Bren Carrier towed the six-pounder, but jeeps very often were pressed into service, both in Europe and in the Pacific.

QUOTE: Can i tie it in with the tractor ond 25 pounder???


I'm not sure how. I think the Brits actually mounted some six-pounders on trucks in the Western Desert as gun trucks. They put light armour plate on the trucks. I'm not too up on this, but it would take a lot of research, and some modeling skill.

And it would no longer be a towed gun. Tongue [:P]

But if you want, you can use Tamiya's beautiful little Jeep kit to pull your six-pounder around.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 2:00 PM
Hi all!!!

I went to the LHSto pick up a British 25 pounder for my Tractor, but i i accidently bought a British6poundergun!!! DOH!!!! I'm going back tomorrow to buy the 25 pounder....

My question is how can i use the 6 pounder??/ I know absolutly nutting about this stuff, ... did the british tractor evertow the 6 pounder??? Can i tie it in with the tractor ond 25 pounder???

Thanks for the help!
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, February 9, 2004 1:24 PM
Sounds good Sheila, glad you gave up on the wingey thingies and returned to the Dark Side.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 11:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lizardqueen2

I have the British 25PDR. Field Gun & Quad Gun Tractor, and I would like to join
I haven't put anything together yet the only thing that I have done is primered it, just got it a couple of days ago.


Sounds like a fun pair to build up -- and an important weapon system too.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 11:39 AM
All right...straight'en up ya'll! Knock off the Grabarsen and nasty talk! Women on deck! Big Smile [:D]

Welcome to the forum and most importantly the Darkside... By all means join us... Your hubby has been talkin up your skills so lets see what you got...Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 11:23 AM
I have the British 25PDR. Field Gun & Quad Gun Tractor, and I would like to join
I haven't put anything together yet the only thing that I have done is primered it, just got it a couple of days ago.
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Posted by dostacos on Saturday, February 7, 2004 8:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dostacos

well my hanamag and pak 40 arrived today, Still thinking of having it ambushed by a US bazooka team and maybe a M57 that was towed by a M5 recon tank [no turret, just a 50 cal ring.


if you choose the Bazooka team, the Dragon kit has a nice looking team in it kit number 6149 US army anti tank team


Thanks, I am thinking about them, my problem is going to be finding men to service the M57. I can snag a motor team guy for one, maybe the Tamiya flamethrower as a second loading, and maybe one of the infantry standing and pointing the third.

I had in mind the Germans driving into the ambush with a bazooka team and machine gunners at the side and the anti tank gun head on. I just wish I could convert the pictures in my head to the finished product...
Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 7, 2004 7:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dostacos

well my hanamag and pak 40 arrived today, Still thinking of having it ambushed by a US bazooka team and maybe a M57 that was towed by a M5 recon tank [no turret, just a 50 cal ring.


if you choose the Bazooka team, the Dragon kit has a nice looking team in it kit number 6149 US army anti tank team
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Posted by dostacos on Saturday, February 7, 2004 6:49 PM
well my hanamag and pak 40 arrived today, Still thinking of having it ambushed by a US bazooka team and maybe a M57 that was towed by a M5 recon tank [no turret, just a 50 cal ring.
Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 7, 2004 3:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

Larry, does it come with a tow trailer?


Tiger, yup, it comes with the trailer.
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, February 7, 2004 2:49 PM
This towed gun build sounds fun. Does anyone know if Italerie's flak 43 anti "wingy-thingy" is a good kit? Id like to build it.
John
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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, February 7, 2004 11:54 AM
Larry, does it come with a tow trailer?

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 7, 2004 9:15 AM
I picked up the CMK FLAK43 and I am simply amazed by how ambiguous the instructions are! And I considered this a quickie build!

Anyone know if the instructions are right, and the actual gun part was left unpainted? I've seen variations on this in kits -- some flak gun build-ups have the gun entirely unpainted, some have the barrel only unpainted, some have the entire gun painted.

Hmmm. Some B&W photos I have for Wiking's flak guns suggest no paint on the gun partss at all, but you know how hard it is to interpret B&W.
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, February 5, 2004 7:00 PM
That was the same kit I helped my son build, Jon. Nice little build, except for the tracks.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 6:34 PM
ive got mine with a RSO/3 wooden cab
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, February 5, 2004 6:24 PM
I've built both and I liked the Italeri one better. Can't find it by itself anymore.

I'll bet AFV's will have an aluminum barrel and other goodies.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 6:20 PM
Captain,

I think the muzzle brakes are different too.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 6:18 PM
the Iterleri has 6 spoked wheels and the Tamiya has solid, so your right Latch
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 6:14 PM
Captain,

I'm not sure, but isn't the Italeri Pak 40 the late version and the Tamiya Pak 40 the early version??
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 6:03 PM
It just says soon Erik?
Italeris Pak 40 is suposed to be better than the Tamiya one????? i havnt built any of them but i do have both,
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, February 5, 2004 5:44 PM
Jon, that may have been me asking about the Pak 40. Any idea when?

Larry, Tamiya's old Pak 40 wasn't bad (my first Tamiya kit), but I didn't care for the shield attatchment.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 4:29 PM
Cool, thats a good idea (dont worry I wont steal it)
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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, February 5, 2004 4:06 PM
OK, I have finally worked up an idea after a visit to the LHS (that's forum lingo for 'local hobby shop', right?Blush [:I]

Originally, as some of you might recall, I wanted to try to do something from the Pacific theater or maybe from Korea. Well, even though the build is a long way off, I quickly rejected that idea (maybe for the NEXT Towed Gun Group Build...).

So at the store today I picked up a German Flak 37 and Flakvierling 38, plus a British Universal Weapons Carrier, all by Tamiya. My plan (at this point) is to depict one of the guns hooked up to a Weapons Carrier. As I thougt about it I came up with this Dio idea of having the Brits looking like they have just returned from a skirmish in which they captured the gun. They will also have a bunch of German gear (helmets, pistols, and the like). There will be a few guys hanging around the Weapons Carrier trying to trade for souveniers. My working title is "Barter System", or some such.

What do y'all think? And any hints to the three kits? They look pretty straightforward, but its always nice to have suggestions.

Bow [bow]Bow [bow]

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 1:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman

i remember someone asking about a new Pak 40. AFV Club are bringing one out this year


Great news. Didn't they already do a Pak97/38 complete with winter crew? That's a really cool and interesting gun. They also did a Pak38 if you want to go downbore a little.

I wonder if Tamiya will re-release their Pak40 using the gun from the Marder as a basis? The gun in the Tamiya kit is supposed to be gorgeous, but I haven't built it.
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