Blitzkrieg in the West (France 1940) Sept. 18 2011 - March 1 2012

I touched it up a little bit added the british flag and changed the color of the german advance.

tigerman

No, we can start next week. A badge will get accepted before anyone has finished.

I meant the badge.

castelnuovo

Gentlemen,

It seems that I will have to drop out of this GB . When I opened the box I noticed that my Krupp has markings for Ukraine and Baltic states and nothing for the Western Europe.

Hold the phone there castelnuovo, the markings you have in that kit include the 87th Infantry Division which was part of Army Group A, VIII Corps, which in fact lead the German victory parade through Paris and definitely saw action in the west. 

Also the 1st Mountain Division was stationed in the German Ardennes region and saw action in 1940 during the French campiagn.

I think it would be highly unlikely the markings for either the units and their vehicles would have changed much in the couple of months elapsed from the battle of France to the periods stated in the Tamiya instructions.

Gentlemen,

It seems that I will have to drop out of this GB . When I opened the box I noticed that my Krupp has markings for Ukraine and Baltic states and nothing for the Western Europe.

modeler#1

I don't get what you are saying about the Union Jack. what about rolling the campaign back a few weeks instead?

Hi modeler#1  :  ).... you don't have to worry to much about the badge yet..often, the design of the badge isn't finalized until after the build gets rolling,when more guys are posting.. you know after the official start.. that way guys who aren't real involved yet get a chance too.  The final badge has to be voted on and so far only you and Carl (Shellback) are actively working on one, but maybe other guys will also want a shot at it.

So, keep refining it and get your model ready to go for next Sunday : )  I don't think Eric would change the start date because I know certain people very close to me would probably self destruct LOL

relax and enjoy

tread

The Union Jack represents the British who were a fairly big player in the campaign. I just thought their flag could be squeezed in there to represent them. The French tri-color needs to remain dominant in size, because they represented a much larger percentage of the troops.

No, we can start next week. A badge will get accepted before anyone has finished.

I don't get what you are saying about the Union Jack. what about rolling the campaign back a few weeks instead?

It's getting better. The date needs to be smaller so it shows up better. I'd capitalize the W in West. How about a lower half of a Union Jack in the upper white bar, but only covering a little, so we still know it's a French flag back there?

what about this?

modeler#1

Here's my badge guys. This is my very first one so don't make fun of me!

The dark red represents the German positions near the end of the French campaign.

 

Hi modeler#1 :  )

I like what you have done quite a bit .....I think it needs a little bit more detail or refinement but I think you are on to something !

nice work so far.

tread

That's interesting Modeler#1. Kind of reminds me of some of those World at War maps where they show swastikas and then large arrows where they attack. Hmmmmmmm. I wonder if you can put some tiny panzers driving West in there with an arrow heading to the coast? Or am I just way off?

Here's my badge guys. This is my very first one so don't make fun of me!

The dark red represents the German positions near the end of the French campaign.

The "ambulance" looks like a standard kleiner Befehls I-B with a red cross pennant added to the aerial and a red cross emblem added to the hull side. There wasn't a specific variant created for that purpose and for 1940 the scheme it "should" have is the same as a standard Befehls...panzer gray and dark brown, so what the color plate depicts is partially suspect IMHO.

tigerman

Shellback:

 

tigerman:

 

Carl, I really like the addition of the lightning bolts to your badge. I guess I'm still kind of wishing for the Eiffel Tower, but I don't think it'll work in your badge. That's okay, it's more of a symbol of  Paris, then France itself.

Once we choose our badge, I will download it to the first page, where everyone will be able to find it when they conclude their build.

That book loos really cool. I love lots of line drawings. Does this author do any other vehicles? 

 

 

Eric , i'm still not completly satisfied with the design . I was thinkinking of changinging the arrows and possibly having one of them point to a symbol of the Eiffel tower . Looks ike i need to condense the size a bit so the badge can be readable in a smaller size. hope you dont mind me posting my on going creation here in your thread but i thought this way i could get more feedback from eeryone .

 

 

Nope, not at all. I wish I had photoshop on this stupid computer, but alas, I don't.

No photo shop ? Wow ! Even my old windows 98 had a program .Hmmmm , or maybe i downloaded a program when i boughtmy digi camera onto the 98 .................. 

Carl / wBill.....

That ambulance version lists as - Sanistaswagen Panzerbefehiswagen I Ausf. B  4th Panzer Division, France 1940

Sounds about right to me,,  but I'll defer to wBill's knowledge.........

Shellback

 

tigerman:

 

Carl, I really like the addition of the lightning bolts to your badge. I guess I'm still kind of wishing for the Eiffel Tower, but I don't think it'll work in your badge. That's okay, it's more of a symbol of  Paris, then France itself.

Once we choose our badge, I will download it to the first page, where everyone will be able to find it when they conclude their build.

That book loos really cool. I love lots of line drawings. Does this author do any other vehicles? 

 

 

Eric , i'm still not completly satisfied with the design . I was thinkinking of changinging the arrows and possibly having one of them point to a symbol of the Eiffel tower . Looks ike i need to condense the size a bit so the badge can be readable in a smaller size. hope you dont mind me posting my on going creation here in your thread but i thought this way i could get more feedback from eeryone .

 

Nope, not at all. I wish I had photoshop on this stupid computer, but alas, I don't.

Thanks wBill......        before I get to a scheme decision point, I'll research and make sure....   in fact I'll probably send you a PM and pick your brain (if you don't mind that is...)

Bill

wbill76

BaBill212:

Hi Carl,,,  quite welcome of course!         And, I agree, that ambulance version really stirs my "what if I" juices.   There's many other plates that step outside the normal grey / brown / green spectrum.   And a number of them coordinate with the 1940 French campaign...... 

 

Be careful which ones you ascribe to the 1940 time period and France in particular. The Pz I-A saw service with the Spanish in their Civil War (some of the schemes in the plates are theirs) and also a few were sold to the Chinese. When dealing with color plates, some caution is always required as they are artist's interpretations and aren't necessarily a guarantee from an accuracy standpoint. The Pz I had a very long service history despite it's physical/armament limitations.

What about the ambulance Pz.1 as pictured in Bills book ? would that be a valid vehicle for this G.B. WBill ?

tigerman

Carl, I really like the addition of the lightning bolts to your badge. I guess I'm still kind of wishing for the Eiffel Tower, but I don't think it'll work in your badge. That's okay, it's more of a symbol of  Paris, then France itself.

Once we choose our badge, I will download it to the first page, where everyone will be able to find it when they conclude their build.

That book loos really cool. I love lots of line drawings. Does this author do any other vehicles? 

Eric , i'm still not completly satisfied with the design . I was thinkinking of changinging the arrows and possibly having one of them point to a symbol of the Eiffel tower . Looks ike i need to condense the size a bit so the badge can be readable in a smaller size. hope you dont mind me posting my on going creation here in your thread but i thought this way i could get more feedback from eeryone .

Carl, I really like the addition of the lightning bolts to your badge. I guess I'm still kind of wishing for the Eiffel Tower, but I don't think it'll work in your badge. That's okay, it's more of a symbol of  Paris, then France itself.

Once we choose our badge, I will download it to the first page, where everyone will be able to find it when they conclude their build.

That book loos really cool. I love lots of line drawings. Does this author do any other vehicles? 

BaBill212

Hi Carl,,,  quite welcome of course!         And, I agree, that ambulance version really stirs my "what if I" juices.   There's many other plates that step outside the normal grey / brown / green spectrum.   And a number of them coordinate with the 1940 French campaign...... 

Be careful which ones you ascribe to the 1940 time period and France in particular. The Pz I-A saw service with the Spanish in their Civil War (some of the schemes in the plates are theirs) and also a few were sold to the Chinese. When dealing with color plates, some caution is always required as they are artist's interpretations and aren't necessarily a guarantee from an accuracy standpoint. The Pz I had a very long service history despite it's physical/armament limitations.

Hi Carl,,,  quite welcome of course!         And, I agree, that ambulance version really stirs my "what if I" juices.   There's many other plates that step outside the normal grey / brown / green spectrum.   And a number of them coordinate with the 1940 French campaign...... 

First step . badge has to be on your computer .

Second step . Upload the badge to Photobucket/Fotki .

third step. Copy IMG code from Photobucket/Fotki and past it in the post message box here .

Are you designing your own Badge on your computer ?

BaBill212

Hi guys,,   In gathering intel for the upcoming build, I came across this softbound book in my library and thought I would pass the word on to anyone interested.

It is called - -   AFV Collection Number 1.     Panzer I, The beginning of a dynasty.     By Lucas Molina Franco. AF Editons.

If you like the little pz I, this book is great!   There are 48 color profile plates among other color plates as well. Loads of good b/w pics and the "reads" are to the point and not over-techno'd.

I know a couple of us (in this GB) are building variants,,,  Nachtflieger and Shellback

I don't remember where I picked mine up but I did see it on Amazon for $16.95 ........

Thanks for the info Bill . looks like a lot of good info in it . I like the picture of the ambulance Pz.1.

Vit13

Hello Guys ,

Just for info , a mistake in the french flag .

the good one is :  bleu , blanc , rouge   (blue,white,red)

 

Jc

 

 

 

 

Thanks Vit !   I'll change it if the design is accepted . Dang enternet ...........................

to but badges on the computer you have to post them on Photobucket/Flikr right?

Hi guys,,   In gathering intel for the upcoming build, I came across this softbound book in my library and thought I would pass the word on to anyone interested.

It is called - -   AFV Collection Number 1.     Panzer I, The beginning of a dynasty.     By Lucas Molina Franco. AF Editons.

If you like the little pz I, this book is great!   There are 48 color profile plates among other color plates as well. Loads of good b/w pics and the "reads" are to the point and not over-techno'd.

I know a couple of us (in this GB) are building variants,,,  Nachtflieger and Shellback

I don't remember where I picked mine up but I did see it on Amazon for $16.95 ........

Hello Guys ,

Just for info , a mistake in the french flag .

the good one is :  bleu , blanc , rouge   (blue,white,red)

Jc

Panzer...;

I hadn't looked to see whether this kit comes with a cupola - frankly, I was thinking of the flat-top as pictured on the box... pretty much why I bought it!  Still, if there is a cupola - I would guess you would be OK for this GB, seeing as a retrofitted early production should be viable as an in-service vehicle still in 1940 - but of course this is only my considered opinion.

About the road wheels...  OK. Here's the story: Dragon has produced several kits based on the Pz.1B chassis... the first 4 or so (Pz. 1B, Pz. 1B "DAK version", Kleiner, and Kleiner 3-in-1) all shared a set of older-style road-wheel sprues created for that chassis. These provided 10 road wheels.  Mr. D then put out the Pz.1A "modified" with interior SmartKit...  This little gem came with MagicTracks and a new type of road wheel that features little brass add-on trim rims to better emulate the structure of those roadies...  D created a new "Pz. 1A" road-wheel sprue with the correct 8 roadies for Pz.1A.  Then, the D started out the gate with a new series of Pz.1B variants... two panzerjager-4.7cm kits, the s.IG 33 auf Pz.1B, the CyberHobby panzerjager 1B with 7.5cm Stuk 40, and a new Flakpanzer 1A premium SmartKit...  all of which also feature these new roadies with brass rings...

But wait.  IF it's a Pz.1A kit (the mod, or the new Flakpanzer 1A), one Pz.1A roadie sprue is sufficient...  But to get the 10 Pz.1B road wheels, Mr. D did NOT make a new 10-wheel sprue, but simply puts 2 of the new 8-wheel Pz.1A sprues in... so you get 16 roadies when you need only 10!  And so they have for all of those new Pz.1B variant SmartKits... all but this "Kleiner Initial production".  Somehow, they goofed, and put only 1 Pz.1A sprue in - along with only sufficient rings for that one sprue. Which leaves you short 2 roadies and 4 rings (2 per wheel).  Now, the D is actually pretty good about his mistakes - and so if you buy one of these deficient little panzer kits, they will, via DragonCare.com, pretty cheerfully and promptly send you a new Pz.1A roadie sprue, and another 4 rings!

That's the deal.  PS: maybe I shouldn't say this, but if you do happen to have other new Pz.1B SmartKits, you will have extra new-type roadies.  But you will still be short those brass rings...  so get them from DragonCare.

Cheers!

Bob

Tread , well we'll see .What did you do , have a picture of Mr. Hampster on his corn- nuts ? 

Thanks Rob. 

Ok , my last one for today . With the "in" Tread !