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Blitzkrieg in the West (France 1940) Sept. 18 2011 - March 1 2012

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 2:55 PM

Rob- I really like the badge you are working on!  Maybe add German flag at top of the tower and France flag in the background?  A stuka would be awesome... remember we have to make our wingy friends happy too!

JC- Thank you so much for sending me the information via PM.  GREAT information... I owe you Beer!

Andy

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 2:53 PM

Hi Eric  : )

hey buddy that Panzer IV J is a real nice piece of work man!  came out BEAUTY!

I been away from the forum for a day and a half and I feel like I missed so much! .... I am still reading all the posts

Tomorrow I go to the Dr. to find out the course of action for my ailing hand....I hope no surgery....

treadCool........ wish me luck!Yes

   

 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 2:45 PM

That's cool Tread. I've always kind of liked the Somua. Great tank for 1940.

Yes, it's been fun learning about French armor. I used to think they were a bit hideous, but have since warmed up to their, uh, lines. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 2:34 PM

 

TREAD - Would love to see your picture of the Somua!  Even if did not use it would be nice to see.  

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Hey Rob : ) sorry dude... my pic of the Souma S-35 is the same as the one you have already... the one at Aberdeen.... at least it is the other side.. lol ... here it is

  

wish it coulda been new info for ya

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:38 AM

You might be on to something Rob, the problem is when it gets shrunk down to fit with the badges. We need something that conveys the name of the GB and date in that small space. Short and sweet. Wink

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 Eric 

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, September 5, 2011 11:51 PM

BILL - Glad you liked the picture, hope it helps.  Thought it was a good picture showing the two tone.  I too have entered to build a "Kleiner", mine will be the initial production one.  Hope I can build all of these in the time frame Stick out tongue  Is it time to start yet?

ERIC - SWEET looking Pz IV Yes  Your on a role,  now onto the H39!

I was thinking of this for a badge....

but since all of you were talking about the Eiffel Tower did this one too.  Could even put some aircraft, thinking maybe a STUKA, in the background flying past the tower.

Rob

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, September 5, 2011 11:33 PM

Not sure , maybe the background colors in red - blue -white . will look into it .Yes

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, September 5, 2011 10:18 PM

Carl, maybe we can make the map in the tri-color? Not sure how'd it look though.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 5, 2011 10:18 PM

Darson and Eric: Great work on the Crusader and Panzer IV guys! I hope my Char B comes out half as well.

Not sure about a badge but I like the idea of working the Eiffel tower in there somewhere. And maybe the French and German flags would be look good in there somewhere. British Union flag as well if there is room.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, September 5, 2011 9:48 PM

Darson thanks for ref. pics . I think i get the idea .

Eric , no i dont have that issue .I tried looking for it in the "searrch" area here but i never have had any luck with the gizmo .Super Angry

Thats a sweet IV .Yes

Eric , i agree with Andy about a map of the invasion .

For example ..................

Maybe add so the GB name in some contrasting colors , red ?

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, September 5, 2011 9:41 PM

bobbaily

Not that I'm going to find anything applicable from the RAF side, but would the Dunkirk evacuation be included for this GB?

Absolutely. It was in the time frame of the entire campaign. 

Andy thanks. I think maybe the Eiffel tower could be incorporated since that is the symbol of Paris , is it not? I'm open to all ideas. I don't have photoshop, so I'm out of the loop. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, September 5, 2011 8:16 PM

Eric- Great looking Panzer IV! YesYes  Bet it felt good bringing it across the finish line.  I have to try one of those Cavalier Zimm set as I have an Ausf J from Dragon in stash. 

For the GB Badge, either a map of France invasion like Ostofront GB or for something different and fun, we can make a badge of Germans surrendering to the French... Big Smile

 

Andy

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, September 5, 2011 7:51 PM

Not that I'm going to find anything applicable from the RAF side, but would the Dunkirk evacuation be included for this GB?

Bob

 

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, September 5, 2011 7:45 PM

Good point about a badge. Are there any graphic designers here? How about something that incorporates the French flag? Just saying. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by modeler#1 on Monday, September 5, 2011 7:09 PM

if you don't mind tigerman im going to change my subject to a 1:35 Char Leger.

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Posted by modeler#1 on Monday, September 5, 2011 6:40 PM

Im just curious but is there going to be a badge?

On the Bench: Nothing atm

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, September 5, 2011 6:37 PM

Yeah, it's good to finish a project.  I tend to take entirely too long....short attention span I guess. 

You can always add another wash or two.....I've taken several built kits and 'added' as time went by.  I have a Tamiya Panther G Late that is in some dire need of extreme weathering.  Maybe once the snow starts flying & soccer season is over....hopefully soccer season ends before the first snow flakes fall.

Still haven't decided on a build yet.  Right now it's between a bf109E-something and tracking down a Tamiya Dewoitine D.520.  Seems that the D.520 is a little scarce at my on-line sources.  I'm going to check with my LHS and see if he has a source.  With most everyone building French subjects, I'd like to support the cause...if possible.  If not, somebody has to provide cover for the Stukas......Wink

 

Bob

 

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Posted by BaBill212 on Monday, September 5, 2011 6:33 PM

Rob,,   Thanks!    for the pic of the Pz I command tank.......  that's my build!!!     I'll have to start digging for more info. I hope to get started in the next few weeks.

 

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, September 5, 2011 6:26 PM

Thanks Bob. The zimmerit is Cavalier. Love that stuff. The decals are Dragon Cartograf. Those things rock! Tamiyas are for you-know-what.

I was just glad to finish it. I started it for Dupes 1000 Wheel Gb, but my AB went poof late last year. Since I've had some extra time available, cough cough, I painted and did all the detail work on it in the past couple of weeks. I think I really need another wash or two on the upper hull. I pin washed the heck out of the lower hull.

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 Eric 

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, September 5, 2011 6:20 PM

Very nice Panzer Eric.  I have that kit in the stash.

Is the zimmert putty based, resin or PE?  Either way, it looks great.

Bob

 

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, September 5, 2011 5:35 PM

Hi gents. I'd thought I'd share a couple of pics of my recently finished Tamiya Pz IV J

I'm not overly happy with it, but it sure beats the crap out of my Monogram one I built back in the early 70's.

The washes don't show up as well as I thought they would in the pics. This is outdoors too. I might go an add another wash or two to it on the upper hull. I did dot filters to the sides. This is the Normandy camo scheme and it was freaking hard. This is the second attempt and I just said "Good enough" LOL I was missing one of the spare track holders on the right side, hence the hole in the middle of the upper hull. I did buy some schurzen, but they kind of sucked, so I nixed it. Anyway, my armor WIP's are kind of done, so now I can focus on the H 39. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, September 5, 2011 2:34 PM

JC - Thanks, more great stuff!  Looking at the link with the book "TRACK STORY", I'm liking the one thats o the cover of the book and the second page one in the color plates.  Decisions...?  The other link showing all of those great pics of the interior is making me want to build an interior.  Not sure but think will pass on that though being that had just finished a complete scratch built interior on my STUG over in the Pz III and variants GB.  Still, great information!

TREAD - Would love to see your picture of the Somua!  Even if did not use it would be nice to see.  I've only seen one real Somua.  Here she is:

Figured throw these in to

DARSON - Great info on the paint colors for the Panzers.  Thats a fantastic looking Crusader!  I'm happy some of these early British tanks are coming out in 1/35.

Check this picture out

Off to do some more research on the Somua.

Rob

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, September 5, 2011 2:19 PM

Carl, do you have a subscription? I found it! It's in the September 2009 issue.

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 Eric 

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Posted by darson on Monday, September 5, 2011 12:26 AM

Shellback

I havent seen an exanple of the "color modulation" Eric . I'll look . And yes Bill and Rob provided me with some reference pics of Pz.1's with the base panzergrau and disruptive dunkelbraun over that . I'm just dreaming out loud .Beer

While it's probably not a great example of the technique here are a couple of shots of my 1/48 Crusader that I painted using "color modulation" as an experiment.

Also here is a nice little article that explains how to do it. Click Me

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, September 4, 2011 10:40 PM

tigerman

Carl, wish I could recall Rick Lawler's Tamiya 1/48 Marder that he did about 2 years ago. Not sure which issue it was in, but I'm thinking 2009 summerish. His article was about color modulation to give the vehicle depth by I think going dark to light from the bottom of the vehicle up. Might be able to search the archives here.

Thanks Eric Beer .Maybe i can search by using Rick Lawler .

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, September 4, 2011 9:53 PM

Carl, wish I could recall Rick Lawler's Tamiya 1/48 Marder that he did about 2 years ago. Not sure which issue it was in, but I'm thinking 2009 summerish. His article was about color modulation to give the vehicle depth by I think going dark to light from the bottom of the vehicle up. Might be able to search the archives here.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, September 4, 2011 8:20 PM

BeerDarson , thanks for the info and help ! Yes  Painting is a loooooooooooooooong ways off so i still can use all of the info and research available .Beer

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, September 4, 2011 8:17 PM

tigerman

 Shellback:

Interesting story about your Dad Tread . I'm surprised at the camo options on these French vehicles . Painting my Pz 1 in panzergrau is going to look boring .

 

A good opportunity to try the color modulation that is all the rage. Wasn't there some talk earlier in the thread about brown also being used with the panzer grey?

I havent seen an exanple of the "color modulation" Eric . I'll look . And yes Bill and Rob provided me with some reference pics of Pz.1's with the base panzergrau and disruptive dunkelbraun over that . I'm just dreaming out loud .Beer

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Posted by darson on Sunday, September 4, 2011 7:02 PM

Shellback

Interesting story about your Dad Tread . I'm surprised at the camo options on these French vehicles . Painting my Pz 1 in panzergrau is going to look boring .

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Hey there Carl, just as a heads up on the camouflage patterns for early war German tanks.

Anthrazitgrau/Signalbraun Pattern, 1935-1939
RAL 7016 Anthrazitgrau - Factory Base Coat
RAL 8002 Signalbraun - Disruptive Pattern

Vehicles drafted in 1939 were painted in this pattern. The base colour dominated the disruptive pattern by a factor of 2 to 1, with soft contours between colours.

My Pk.Kpfw.III Ausf E will fall into this timeframe and will get a two tone camo scheme to break up the plan grey look.  Also a few simple filters as well as a little tonal shading will break up the scheme as well as add some interest.

Cheers



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Posted by treadwell on Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:20 PM

PANZERWAFFE

Has anyone found any good color plates of the Somua in there searches?  Not sure if I'm going to use the one I have.  The link that JC has posted has many intresting pics but would be nice if could find some in color.  Also was there individual names and markings and what not for the Somua like there was for the B1?  Thanks

hi Rob : )   I have a real nice color picture of souma S-35 , but it is a restoration... if your interested I will scan it and upload it.... it is really pretty cool looking tri color camo

treadCool

   

 

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