First O and now Satch,

I'm lookin' fer Jugs

in all the wrong places!

Although I'm in with the Hawk 1/48 P-47, I've also an old Otaki one too.  Is this old kit any cop?  Bought it cheap at some show a while back.  Looks like a simple build (which often means that not many parts, but the few only fit where they chose to).

The Otaki Jug is a fine kit.  Not as detailed in the pit area as a Tamigawa kit but certainly serviceable.  I built one for the 8th AF GB last year.  Nice platform to ad some aftermarket goodies.

Thanks Satch!

I've always liked the Arii/Otaki kits. I'll agree that maybe they're not quite as nice as newer Tamiygawa kits but I've always had good luck with them.

oortiz10

 

So...

I’m over at The Fossils’ (my parents’) house over the weekend, and I’m helping them put the Christmas lights up on the house I grew up in.  While I was digging around in their garage for the decorations, I come across a small, sealed, unmarked cardboard box and instantly recognize the sound of loose styrene rattling around inside.  I open it up, and am surprised and confused by what I find inside. 

I find an old Monogram P-47D. 

I have no idea where it came from or how it got into their garage.  

I know Doogs' rule say that a build like this is too far along for this GB, but I'm wondering if there might be an exception made for a garage dwelling Monogram mystery Jug?

Cheers,

-O

 

Dude! You're definitely in! I can't turn down the early 90s boxing of the Monogram Jug! 

Seriously, it might be among my favorite kits of all time. I built it when I was a kid, loved it, and it's one of the few kits from my childhood that still survives:

When I got back into modeling last year, one of my first actions was to track down the kit on eBay. Had fun building it, could have painted it better (and did the next time around with the Tamiya kit)...but the decals completely ruined the proceedings:

I guess moral of the story? Buy some aftermarket decals! And welcome to the GB!

satch - want me to put you down for that fine score?

Centhot - want me to add your Otaki?

Getting ready to crack into the Trumpy Wildcat probably tonight, but man, I'm SO tempted to set it aside to play with some Jugs.

Also - haven't had a chance to put together a GB badge...hard to get in P-shop time with two kids who are attracted to an open laptop the way a dog is to bacon. Still hoping to get to it, but if anybody else wants to take a crack, feel free...

Yes thanks

DoogsATX

Dude! You're definitely in! I can't turn down the early 90s boxing of the Monogram Jug! 

...welcome to the GB!

WOOHOO!  I’m in!

OK, I wasn’t sure if the progress on this kit was disqualify me from the GB, but I kept moving forward with the Mystery Jug anyway.  (C’mon, who isn’t gonna build a free kit?)  Since school’s over, I’ve had some time to spend mashing plastic.  Here are the results…

This kit seems to have just materialized in my parents’ garage.  My folks don’t know where it came from; they didn’t even know that it was there. They seem to think that it’s mine, but I’m not sure that can be.  I don’t ever remember buying that kit.  (Cue The Twilight Zone theme song…)  The kit’s been started, has all its parts, and the instructions indicate the painting guide and decals are for Schilling’s Hairless Joe, but I didn’t find any decals in the box.  A little research on the interweb tells me it’s Monogram’s “High Tech” boxing using their 1967 molds (date’s stamped on the stabilizer).  This kit includes a fret of photoetch, but I’ve never built a kit using PE.  I’ve never even purchased a kit with PE until recently, much less attempted one.  Further, the sub-assemblies that have been completed don’t show the use of any filler at all.  (I know that can’t be my work!)  Thing is, I stepped away from the hobby about 10 years ago and have only started up again within the last few years, so I wonder how long that kit’s been there. From the looks of the instructions, it seems like it’s been a while.




Don’t even ask me where those resin wheels came from…

Something else that leads me to believe this wasn’t my kit to start with is one of the elevators was removed from the stabilizer. My guess is the point was to build the kit with repositioned control surfaces, yet only one was detached. So I went ahead and removed the other. First time I’ve done this; let’s see how it turns out.

One thing you might notice about the tail is the raised detail has been sanded off and the panel lines have been rescribed. I figured I’d use this build to get some scribing practice in too. So, out came my scribing tool and away went all the raised detail. The scribing was challenging since the major components have been assembled. I did the best I could.

After I got the scribing done, I thought I'd add a little detail and open up the vents that are on the forward part of the fuselage, right behind the cowling. Unfortunately, while trying to thin the plastic behind the vents in an attempt to open them up, my ham-fistedness (Is that a word?) pushed my Dremel through the fuse.

So, I figured I’d have to scratch new vents and exhausts. After spending a little time thinking about how I was gonna recreate vent doors, I decided to use some aluminum from a soda can. First, I used a strip of styrene to recreate the missing fuse detail…

...then measured out some strips of aluminum. I don’t have a PE brake for bending stuff, so I had to experiment. I basically ended up using two razor blades to make the bends. After some fiddling and trimming, the new vents fit pretty well. No, neither perfect nor completely accurate, but better than a couple of gaping holes in the fuselage’s sides.

I'm not totally happy with this first attempt at the vents, so I think I'm gonna give 'em another go and see if I can come up with something better.

Moving away from the airframe, I decided to spend some time working on the one-piece engine assembly.  I tried to add some wiring and ducting to the engine. (Again, not totally accurate but better.)

I have a build that's stalled in a Mustang GB at the NMF stage, so I figure I can use both the Mustang and this Jug to gain a little more NMF experience.  Hey, if I get a decent looking kit out of it, well, all the better!  Hopefully I can get this thing ready for paint soon since I need to finish the Mustang by year’s end, and I can get them both done together.

Anyway, thanks for letting me join the GB and thanks for looking.  Feel free to drop your two cents in the bucket on the way out.  I appreciate your feedback.


Cheers!
-O

(Edited for broken picture links.)

How about this.  Suggestions for change welcome!

John: Looks good to me.

Doogs: I know this build isn't official for a few more days... but I just started a Jug for the Nose Art GB and would like to cross over here. Hope you don't mind. On a completely different subject I gotta give you a big shout out for the build pictures of your "failed" Dauntless. Without those pics the cockpit would have ended up in the circular filing cabinet. Whoever designed the footrails and rudder control links is one sadistic SOB.

how bout this one.

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Don't think I'll tackle the Tamiya jug just yet.  I have the Big Ed set for it.  I might go with a Hasegawa or Academy one.

With the logo, Satch:

There is also this one but it may be "over the top" for the forum.....

That new badge needs more contrast for the lettering, it's rather hard to read.  Nice picture though

This more to your liking?

I still like the first one. Love a P-47 in flight... that's just me though. Here's the cockpit for "Miss Dallas"

There was a color discussion a few pages back. I decided to go witha dull dark green i mixed of a B-25 build a while back. It's dull, its dark, and its green. A couple of touchups and on to the engine. More later.

i like both of them. i also really like the night shot of the 47 firing its .50's  that doogs has up in the beginning of the thread!  nothing like 671 grains of love to make your day...

OK gang,

I've had a little time to devote to the Jug, so I focused on its front end.  While work continues on the airframe, I thought I'd use the nose as a distraction from the tedium.  Here's what I got...

Thanks for thanks for looking.  Feel free to drop your two cents in the bucket on the way out.  I appreciate your feedback.

Cheers!

-O

Jbrady and O: Sharp work guys!

Pulled out the Promodeler kit last night and looked it over. I picked up an Eduard ZOOM set for the Academy P-47N and am coming up with a plan of attack on how to make it fit the Revell kit (Eduard doesn't make a set for the PM kit ).

Hey all the badges look great, can't make up my mind!

oortiz10

 

 

 

 

-O

 

 

Phew!, we were wundrin' if you'ld ever come back!

Nice work man.......like the scratches.....

Bockscar,

Thanks for the kudos.  School ended last week, so I figured I'd put my free evenings to good use.  May as well get some plastic mashing in while I can since I've decided to enter the teaching credential program in Jan.  Undergrad's done, now it's off to more schooling!  (Insert sarcasm here.)  Yay.

Anyway, let's talk Jugs!  I was happy with the way my T-bolt's nose came out, but that quickly turned to disappointment.  I sprayed some flat coat on it, and it totally changed the patina of the NMF look.  In all honestly, it changed it for the better, except now the fact that the markings are decals is totally obvious.  The NMF under the clear carrier film remains the "natural" Alclad finish, so it doesn't match the surrounding sheen.  Hmm...I can live with it under the nose art, but I'll be hesitant to spray the rest of the model knowing that the carrier film will become that much more obvious, despite the fact that the flat coat makes the NMF look a little more realistic.

Further, I was sitting at my bench staring at the airframe when I noticed something.  This thing has no gun barrels!  UGH.  I'll have to think of a way of replicating them.  A Jug just ain't a Jug without those gun barrels stickin' outta the wings.

Anyway, I'm gonna put the nose aside and chalk it up to experience, keep on keepin' on with the airframe, and I'll start thinkin' about how I'm gonna do the guns.  

Stay tuned!  O's Thunderbolt adventure continues!

Cheers,

-O

Oortiz: Nice work so far. Never thought about carrier film and NMF. Something to think about on my next build.

Got most of the airframe comeplete. This is the third Tamiya Jug I've built and I still can't get the wing fit right. Definitely have to rethink my approach the next time I do one of these.

Time to get the putty and files out and to get down to fairing in the wings. Gonna lose some detail but it can't be helped.

Finally settled on the subject for my Jug. Getting ready to give the parts an overall bath and cut out the ultracast resin seat and wheels.

                                        Joe

oortiz10

Anyway, let's talk Jugs!  I was happy with the way my T-bolt's nose came out, but that quickly turned to disappointment.  I sprayed some flat coat on it, and it totally changed the patina of the NMF look.  In all honestly, it changed it for the better, except now the fact that the markings are decals is totally obvious.  The NMF under the clear carrier film remains the "natural" Alclad finish, so it doesn't match the surrounding sheen.  Hmm...I can live with it under the nose art, but I'll be hesitant to spray the rest of the model knowing that the carrier film will become that much more obvious, despite the fact that the flat coat makes the NMF look a little more realistic.

Further, I was sitting at my bench staring at the airframe when I noticed something.  This thing has no gun barrels!  UGH.  I'll have to think of a way of replicating them.  A Jug just ain't a Jug without those gun barrels stickin' outta the wings.

Anyway, I'm gonna put the nose aside and chalk it up to experience, keep on keepin' on with the airframe, and I'll start thinkin' about how I'm gonna do the guns.  

Stay tuned!  O's Thunderbolt adventure continues!

Cheers,

-O

You might want to try Alclad's clear finishes. I've used "light sheen" in the past to great effect, and without the under-carrier issue. 

Regarding the blast tubes, check out the techniques section on my blog for the post on dealing with the barrels on a Monogram Jug. Should be adaptable to a kit with nothing there, too. I'd post the link but I'm on my iPhone, so getting back and forth is somewhat burdensome. 

Son of a.....

I just realized that I didn't "seal" my decals before I sprayed the flat coat!  Why's that significant?  Because I didn't put a barrier over the NMF and decals, so that when I sprayed my flat it reacted with the underlying Alclad.  Had I sealed the decals, there would've been a protective barrier over my NMF and decals preventing my flat from reacting with the Alclad.

Now that I know my mistake, I should be able to "flat" my decals and NMF without fear of getting that funny reaction to the flat coat.  Now I just have to think about what "sealer" I wanna use over my NMF.  I'm thinking MM Metalizer Sealer...

Anyways...

-O

JOE RIX

Yeah, nothin' like eight .5 Cal aimed at your hat!

Great Jug content there, a bit grainy, but heck, I can see them guns jess like it was yessaday!

Thanks for sharing Joe.......made my day.....

Bockscar

JOE RIX:

 

Whoa Nelly!!!!!!!!    Eight Nifties!! !! !! !! 50's!! !! !! !!

Yeah, nothin' like eight .5 Cal aimed at your hat!

Great Jug content there, a bit grainy, but heck, I can see them guns jess like it was yessaday!

Thanks for sharing Joe.......made my day.....

Yow Joe, I gotta agree that is some niiiiicccccccccceeeeeeeeee nose-art

O- I've used the MM NM sealer on a couple of NM aircraft, I like the results, it gives a more flat finish when applied over Alclad. And I just hate leaving decals on the model without some sort of protective overcoat.

Gamera

I've used the MM NM sealer on a couple of NM aircraft, I like the results, it gives a more flat finish when applied over Alclad....

Hey Gamera,

I picked up some MM NM sealer last night.  I'm gonna go ahead and try it and see how it works.  I really like the finish the flat shot straight onto the NMF looks, and I'd use it if I didn't have the issue with the decals.  The flat coat gave the NMF a realistic look to it, which is what I hope the sealer will do too.  Right now I think the paint looks too "paint-ish."  Hopefully the sealer will give me the look I'm going for.

Thanks!

-O

Ok, so, this GB has now kicked off? At least on my side of the globe.

I've just moved house and my new dedicated modelling room is still full of boxes to be emptied - so won't be able to make a start tonight, but fingers crossed the Christmas/New Year's break will see me get some sprue cut....perhaps i'll even finish off those three other 75% completed models....

Looking forward to seeing some action!!