Rich:

That's too cool...would like to have seen that alright, mind you, I have a pretty good ides....lol.....

Cliff:

Well, I wish I had some of those old kits now. I tried buying a few, shiiiish.....$$III$$HHH!!!

Mind you, I still have a few from my teen years.....now I'm glad i ran out of TNT....lol.

Mikey:

Gosh, you would have had a 'blast'.

In grade one I brought a pack of used razor blades to class, yeah, they had fallen out of someone's trash, the blue steel double edged kind in the light blue package......

I was grinding sodium nitrate pellets in a Melmac bowl out the back door one day and my mom comes out and realizes 'this is different'...."whatcha doing Dom?"

Stupidly bragging "making gun powder"

Mom, scoffing because she didn't think i was capable of such technology: "So, who taught you how to make gunpowder?"

Stupidly bragging "I got the recipe from a book about pirates (forgive me pyro-pals, I may have forgotten this recipe) 5 parts of sodium nitrate, one part of sulfer, and one part of charcoal. I got the chemicals from a 'refresher kit' at the hobby shop and the charcoal out of the fireplace."

Yes, she freaked "YOU'RE REALLY MAKING GUNPOWDER!?!?!?"

ahem.......she never got the batch I had finished though.....a whole Testors paint pot full.......

Oh yeah, that old stuff should be kept a little 'moist'......lol.......blowed up real good......lol

-dom

Yeh it was pretty spectacular.  I suppose the three cruisers that showed up thought so too.  At the time, fireworks were illegal in MA....  Luckily I was working a summer job at the Police Station and I knew all the cops, so they just  got a good laugh out of it and said next time to invite them to the fun...

Last night I masked and installed the canopy sections on the F86.  All I need to do now is a bit of contour sanding and body masking, then I will be ready to shoot some paint.  I am still a bit unsure about the metalizer.  Everyone is saying it's very very fragile.  I don't have any sealer for it either, so I am not sure how durable it would be.  I also have normal MM Aluminum plate I could put on, as well as steel, and titanium enamel.  I was thinking of a combination to get that differing metal effect.  I already did the tail ring/exhaust cone in Jet Exhaust (MM), the two panels that cover the guns as well as the nose bit all got steel.  I used steel for the landing gear as well.  Luckily I still have some mixed insignia yellow for the HC stripes.  I had some issues masking the cockpit and got some fine line scratches.   I think a brush coat of future will fix it after I finish up the rest of the painting.  Whaddya think?

Rich

Bockscar

Rich:

That's too cool...would like to have seen that alright, mind you, I have a pretty good ides....lol.....

Dang, I never got to do anything cool like that as a kid. Guess I can't complain - I did play with lawn darts and rode my bike without a goofy helmet...

Rich: The metallizer should be ok outside of masking over it. I've used post-it notes for masking with good effect since they're pretty low tack. You can also use a piece of paper slightly moistened stuck to the model using the surface tension of the water to hold it in place as ultra low tack masking too.

I've heard of people not sealing the metallizer afterward saying it dulls the shine. You should be ok if you don't handle the model too much.

Hi Everyone,

Dom:  I wonder what kind of market there would be for ejection seat handles!  Of course I doubt anyone would be willing to pay the money I would charge! 

That is some story about making your own gun powder!  Very cool!  So did you ever go looking for some Uranium-235? 

Rich:  With that much effort, it sounds like you could have made it in the film industry for special effects!  I did have a few (very few) models that met their demise via fire crackers, bb guns and pellet rifles, but nothing with as much flare as what you described!

Well tonight I went shopping for the wire and this time I went all out.  I thought about the tensile strength as the wire thickness would be thinner gauge.  I did not want to be dealing with something so flimsy it would be like trying to push string.  So then I came up with the idea of using cable wire.  The strands of wire in a cable are very strong, much stronger than copper wire.  So I bought a foot of each available size (in the smaller sizes of course) of cable the hardware store had.  I figured that I should be able to find the right diameter wire in one of those!

SOMM (the other Ken)

Gamera

Dang, I never got to do anything cool like that as a kid. Guess I can't complain - I did play with lawn darts and rode my bike without a goofy helmet...

Rich: The metallizer should be ok outside of masking over it. I've used post-it notes for masking with good effect since they're pretty low tack. You can also use a piece of paper slightly moistened stuck to the model using the surface tension of the water to hold it in place as ultra low tack masking too.

I've heard of people not sealing the metallizer afterward saying it dulls the shine. You should be ok if you don't handle the model too much.

"I didn't mean to stick my cousin with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick my neighbor with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick my classmate with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick my uncle with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick my older sister with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick all those cops with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."...LOL....

Thousands of kids die while texting and driving, and the 'movies' get them freaked out about some 'Dung Herd Games' in the woods with no MRE's..........go figure.

Hey, when we really didn't like someone, we phoned them up and invited them to a game of Lawn Darts....LOL

Such a green lawn.....and still no Lawn Dart Games Movie........lol......ahem......

The police: "There's no way a dog the size of Zorro could make such huge green spots on your lawn!"

Me: "No, but seeing as he loves to dig, and he has to dispose of all of the cases you guys can't solve...Duhhhh....."

Yeah,,,Lawn Darts were great.........

Cliff, that surface tension idea is a real winner, is it an old stand by idea, did you submit that to FSM? You should, or patent it......

Bockscar

 

Gamera:

 

Dang, I never got to do anything cool like that as a kid. Guess I can't complain - I did play with lawn darts and rode my bike without a goofy helmet...

Rich: The metallizer should be ok outside of masking over it. I've used post-it notes for masking with good effect since they're pretty low tack. You can also use a piece of paper slightly moistened stuck to the model using the surface tension of the water to hold it in place as ultra low tack masking too.

I've heard of people not sealing the metallizer afterward saying it dulls the shine. You should be ok if you don't handle the model too much.

 

Yes Gamms, with Lawn Darts, you got to do away with unwanted cousins even before the 'Dung Herd Games'...ahem.....man

 

"I didn't mean to stick my cousin with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick my neighbor with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick my classmate with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick my uncle with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick my older sister with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."

"I didn't mean to stick all those cops with that Lawn Dart, your Honor...."...LOL....

Thousands of kids die while texting and driving, and the 'movies' get them freaked out about some 'Dung Herd Games' in the woods with no MRE's..........go figure.

Hey, when we really didn't like someone, we phoned them up and invited them to a game of Lawn Darts....LOL

Such a green lawn.....and still no Lawn Dart Games Movie........lol......ahem......

The police: "There's no way a dog the size of Zorro could make such huge green spots on your lawn!"

Me: "No, but seeing as he loves to dig, and he has to dispose of all of the cases you guys can't solve...Duhhhh....."

Yeah,,,Lawn Darts were great.........

Cliff, that surface tension idea is a real winner, is it an old stand by idea, did you submit that to FSM? You should, or patent it......

Lol, yeah lawn darts were great, wonder if I can still find a set on ebay or a yard sale. I'd be tempted to by my nephews a set.

Not sure where I saw the moist paper as a mask before, it certainly wasn't my idea. I used it on the exhaust stacks on a P-51 I did with Metallizer years ago and it worked quite well.

Please put me down for a F-14 or F-16 Italeri OOB 1/72 not sure which yet.

Dom, you just keep cracking me up!  I remember those lawn darts.  We played many games with those and never came close to impaling each other with them.  And when they were pulled from the shelves I just couldn't believe it.  I mean really?  Think about all the other games out there that can be just as dangerous if you don't watch what the heck you are doing.  But just like anything else, Big Brother government has to defend ourselves from ourselves!

Take for example horse shoes.  Throw one of those at someone's head and it could kill them.  So let's outlaw those too!  And golf, you can definitely get killed by a line drive, so we better outlaw golf.  I could keep going but the list would be endless.

  Okay, I had to get my two cents in.

SOMM (the other Ken)

Frightful6_7

Please put me down for a F-14 or F-16 Italeri OOB 1/72 not sure which yet.

Hi Frightful6_7!

Just let us know which kit you decide on and we will put you down for it.  Welcome aboard!

SOMM (the other Ken)

Probably the F-16 i have a great Venezuelan camo scheme i want to try

[quote user="Sparrowhyperion"]

Here are the wing and fuselage assemblies prior to mating.

A lot of older kits have stuff like that.  I think it's caused by the plastic coloring agent not properly mixing before injection.  They aren't raised or recessed, just colored weird.

[quote user="Frightful6_7"]

Sparrowhyperion

 

Here are the wing and fuselage assemblies prior to mating.

 

I noticed that the wings seem to have lines on them, not panel lines but like different plastics. why is that.  It was also on one of my fighters earlier this year.

[quote user="Sparrowhyperion"]

A lot of older kits have stuff like that.  I think it's caused by the plastic coloring agent not properly mixing before injection.  They aren't raised or recessed, just colored weird.

Frightful6_7:

 

Sparrowhyperion

 

Here are the wing and fuselage assemblies prior to mating.

 

I noticed that the wings seem to have lines on them, not panel lines but like different plastics. why is that.  It was also on one of my fighters earlier this year.

 

 

Those lines are in all injection molded kits. the resin with its fillers come into the mold at a high temperature, and depending on the company, it's molds are either cooler or warmer relative to the injection temperature. Not all 'dies' are designed for quick cool.

 

What you are seeing is the line created when two or more 'squirts' of molten polymer are injected into a die,

and where they meet is that line. The rolling front of a die injection is always very cooler than at the point of injection.

If you have a larger injection mold, low injection resin temperatures, you might actually get holes in the casting.

Those lines have the resin at its lowest melting temperature. All the fillers absorb heat, so they are left behind.

It is like material chromatography....the lower temperature ingredients get left behind so you do not get a 

perfectly homogenous surface, those lines in the plastic are the front lines on the battle field......between hot and cool.

 

Thanks,

 

-Dom

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Hi Dom,

Very nice explanation! 

SOMM (the other Ken)

VooDooKen:

The best guys are on this thread,

no second best....lol.....

Bockscar

VooDooKen:

The best guys are on this thread,

no second best....lol.....

I must agree!  And something I must share since I find it very exciting.  Aurora is coming back to life!  Here is a link to their website!

http://www.auroraplasticscorp.com/index.html 

Very cool news indeed!

SOMM (the other Ken)

Awesome...!  At least it will be if they keep the kits affordable to anyone.  So far, all of the companies that tried to do the old Aurora kits, charged a small fortune for them. 

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

 

Bockscar:

 

VooDooKen:

The best guys are on this thread,

no second best....lol.....

 

 

I must agree!  And something I must share since I find it very exciting.  Aurora is coming back to life!  Here is a link to their website!

http://www.auroraplasticscorp.com/index.html 

Very cool news indeed!

SOMM (the other Ken)

UUhh...does this mean the Ebay value of my stash is fallingg....lollll....

Thanks for the explanation Dom.  I wasn't surer.  I always thought it was weird that most of the silver plastic kits are like this, but the others usually aren't.  Now I know why.

Oh, I have the first primer coat on the Sabre.  Masking is done too.  I am going to let the primer cure until tomorrow afternoon, then give it a quick sanding with 800 grit to smooth out the primer a bit, then either use metalizer, aluminum Enamel or Chrome again.  I also did some more on my Mosquito for the Way Too Many Props build.  Two on the bench and reaching the finish line.  I also got another Mossie for parts, but the kit turned out to be complete, so I can do a MK IV Bomber, and a MK VI Fighter/Bomber version.  One gear up, and the other gear down.

Rich

Bockscar

 

 

Those lines are in all injection molded kits. the resin with its fillers come into the mold at a high temperature, and depending on the company, it's molds are either cooler or warmer relative to the injection temperature. Not all 'dies' are designed for quick cool.

 

 

What you are seeing is the line created when two or more 'squirts' of molten polymer are injected into a die,

and where they meet is that line. The rolling front of a die injection is always very cooler than at the point of injection.

If you have a larger injection mold, low injection resin temperatures, you might actually get holes in the casting.

Those lines have the resin at its lowest melting temperature. All the fillers absorb heat, so they are left behind.

It is like material chromatography....the lower temperature ingredients get left behind so you do not get a 

perfectly homogenous surface, those lines in the plastic are the front lines on the battle field......between hot and cool.

 

Thanks,

 

-Dom

Okay.   Moving right along, The Sabre is primed and painted.  The Chrome I used will be dulled down a bit when I am done.  I am already planning out the detailing.  Tomorrow I mask everything and shoot thew insignia yellow.  Here's some images so far.

Here's the assembly so far with the masked canopy taped to hold it in position while the glue dries.

Another pre painting shot.

Primers on in this one.

2 Coats of Chrome (MM 1290) and lookin' shiny.

A different angle.

And a shot of the bottom.

Well, that's it  for now.  I'll post some more images when I get some of the detail paint done.  Have a great week folks.

Nice work Rich, looking real nice!  

Ken

Greetings everyone,

I put on a coat of yellow paint on one of the strands of wire that I picked out of the batch of cables that I purchased the other night.  I think this one will turn out the right scale to match 1/48.

I had my performance review today at work.  It was a good one.  So I am in a good mood. 

Next week I am getting a new HVAC system installed here at the house.  We have been without an air conditioner this year and now with the heat coming on we have to give in and have it replaced.  It is supposed to get up to 90 degrees this weekend, so my modeling will have to be done in the morning before it gets hot.

So how is everyone else doing?

SOMM (the other Ken)

Slowly. We have a visitor atm, he irks me. Makes it hard to work. Instead i sit on my computer killing zombies all night.

My performance review is coming up shortly. Really not looking forward to it. New software has slowed things down while i break it in. Although i did save the company 1500 this year. drop in the ocean, but every drop counts.

Im guessing everyone here heard about GeneK?

Ken.  Slow here too.  I did finally get the yellow on my Sabre today.  We are starting to feel the heat here too.  Luckily my work area is in the basement which is cooler.  My Mom-In-Law is getting central AC put in, but we have to have an electrician come out and do some rewiring first.  Until then, I just sit and hope it doesn't get over 96F or even down here gets hot.

ScorpioMikey.  I used to hate reviews, even when I was the person doing the review. lol  I'm sure you will do good on it.  GeneK?

Son Of Medicine Man

Greetings everyone,

I put on a coat of yellow paint on one of the strands of wire that I picked out of the batch of cables that I purchased the other night.  I think this one will turn out the right scale to match 1/48.

I had my performance review today at work.  It was a good one.  So I am in a good mood. 

Next week I am getting a new HVAC system installed here at the house.  We have been without an air conditioner this year and now with the heat coming on we have to give in and have it replaced.  It is supposed to get up to 90 degrees this weekend, so my modeling will have to be done in the morning before it gets hot.

So how is everyone else doing?

SOMM (the other Ken)

Slow here now too, I was making good progress and then after masking the canopies and spraying them interior green last night I started to spray the top coat of USAAF OD green.

And the bottle of paint had dried up...

I looked and looked - out of a zillion bottles of paint not one bottle of USAAF OD green...

The nearest hobby shop is over a hours drive from here

(sigh)

On more serious matters I saw where GeneK was in the hospital and I'd been praying for him. I just looked now to see that he'd passed away.... My prayers to his family...

On a happier note - nice work on the F-86 Rich, she's coming along nicely.

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Too many good people lost this year, and last, and too many ill as well.  He sounds like a great guy, I hope he pulls through.

Scorpiomikey

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Unfortunately he passed a couple of days ago.

Very sad to hear, if anyone has a link to one of his last threads that would be great. That's quite the bio.

Sparrowhyperion

Okay.   Moving right along, The Sabre is primed and painted.  The Chrome I used will be dulled down a bit when I am done.  I am already planning out the detailing.  Tomorrow I mask everything and shoot thew insignia yellow.  Here's some images so far.

Well, that's it  for now.  I'll post some more images when I get some of the detail paint done.  Have a great week folks.

That's looking even smoother than the first one.