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Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 10, 2012 10:02 PM

Russ: Those look great though I'd agree with Mike that if I were building them I'd do a spare or to since it's a certainly with me that one will break or vanish. I've used wax paper as something to lay superglue items down on. If it sticks you can usually cut it away without too many problems.

Ken: Good to hear about your mom. As you said the disk is no laughing matter but it's way better than cancer. And good score on the lithograph. Beautiful plane and great piece of history there!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, September 10, 2012 9:25 PM

Incoming!!!

Don't see planes like this anymore:

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, September 10, 2012 8:50 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

By the way Russ, how did you hold the little pieces in place while

you cemented them?

Dom

 
Not very professionally, I'm afraid. First, I glued the two bomb bay doors together at the angle I figured looked about right, then I traced the end of the door assembly onto a piece of paper. I used that as my reference for cutting and laying out the pieces. Once I completed the first assembly, I drew an outline around it to use as a pattern.
 
While I was piecing together the first assembly, I discovered the pieces were sticking to the paper. I was about to correct this when it occurred to my dull senses that this might be a good thing, if I didn't overdo it, so I let a bit of glue hold the already completed parts while I glued on the next ones. Once the assembly was finished and the glue dry, I inserted a sharp knife between the paper and the part and carefully cut it from the paper.
 
What would be nice would be a clear material that super glue wouldn't stick to that you could lay over a pattern and build the assembly on top of.
 
Russ 
 

Russ:

You've managed to re-invent the wheel, your precision looked too good to be a random

glu-it-together.

Wide tape works, like a masking tape with thick stick-um.

Even if you do get some CA on the tape, it doesn't soak through the stick-um on the

tape so you can separate it, at worst, with a bit of varsol or lighter fluid.

a very fine point X-Acto or riffler to clean up the excess CA.

Also you are using patterns, a technique, don't laugh, I learned from my mom when she used to buy

them to cut and sew her own clothes back in 1962, also the cereal boxes used to have cut out rocket ships and planes, and my dad gave me an old acetate drafting guide to trace curves and circles.

My first real job was as a draftsman, go figure. I ended that gig cutting circuit boards on Compaq computers back in the early 80's......

I swear by patterns to this day, especially for guaging the inside of kit parts that need spars.

That is a very good process you have going, time tested and sound.

I can still smell the ammonia from the big blue print machine......lol

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, September 10, 2012 8:27 PM

Bockscar

By the way Russ, how did you hold the little pieces in place while

you cemented them?

Dom

 
Not very professionally, I'm afraid. First, I glued the two bomb bay doors together at the angle I figured looked about right, then I traced the end of the door assembly onto a piece of paper. I used that as my reference for cutting and laying out the pieces. Once I completed the first assembly, I drew an outline around it to use as a pattern.
 
While I was piecing together the first assembly, I discovered the pieces were sticking to the paper. I was about to correct this when it occurred to my dull senses that this might be a good thing, if I didn't overdo it, so I let a bit of glue hold the already completed parts while I glued on the next ones. Once the assembly was finished and the glue dry, I inserted a sharp knife between the paper and the part and carefully cut it from the paper.
 
What would be nice would be a clear material that super glue wouldn't stick to that you could lay over a pattern and build the assembly on top of.
 
Russ 
 

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, September 10, 2012 8:14 PM

Bockscar

Don't tell the artist Ken, I

collect stuff on this thread too.......

Thanks for sharing.

No problem friend!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, September 10, 2012 8:12 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

Russ:

Your years of accumulated technical skills are being translated into tiny bits of styrene!

You and Ken could have been watch-makers!

Dom

 
Lol, thanks Dom! Ken for sure as a watch-maker, but I don't think I have that kind of patience. I might have been ok as a watch repairman Smile.
 
Russ

Thank you Russ for the compliment!  Embarrassed 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, September 10, 2012 8:08 PM

Don't tell the artist Ken, I

collect stuff on this thread too.......

Thanks for sharing.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, September 10, 2012 8:04 PM

Bockscar

Russ:

Your years of accumulated technical skills are being translated into tiny bits of styrene!

You and Ken could have been watch-makers!

Dom

Thanks for the compliment Dom!  I also knew you would like that litho of the RF-101C!  I know how much you like collecting the box art.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, September 10, 2012 8:01 PM

Yeah Russ,

We need a bit of that 'good news' stuff around here!

By the way Russ, how did you hold the little pieces in place while

you cemented them?

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, September 10, 2012 8:01 PM

Bockscar

Russ:

Your years of accumulated technical skills are being translated into tiny bits of styrene!

You and Ken could have been watch-makers!

Dom

 
Lol, thanks Dom! Ken for sure as a watch-maker, but I don't think I have that kind of patience. I might have been ok as a watch repairman Smile.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, September 10, 2012 7:56 PM

Wow, very nice, Ken! Yes Yes The 101 really was a beautiful airplane and that is an outstanding litho of it. Congratulations on winning the auction!

Also, great news about your mom!

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, September 10, 2012 7:49 PM

Thanks, Ken! Big Smile

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, September 10, 2012 7:30 PM

BEEEE U TEEE!!!!

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, September 10, 2012 7:16 PM

Hi Everyone,

I found out some good news!  It seems that the back pain my Mom was having was a herniated disc and not the cancer coming back.  I know that a herniated disc is not good, but it is much better than cancer!

Well yesterday I had to work (on a Sunday!) from 1:00 PM to midnight!  Then get up and go in at my regular time at 8:00 AM and work a full 8 hour day.  While I was at work yesterday I was so busy I completely forgot about an item I had bid on eBay.  Today I remembered it and much to my surprise I had won it!  Here are the pictures of it:

 

 

Here is the description:

NO RESERVE on this  great color litho of the famous VooDoo Fighter Jet  that was produced by McDonnell Aircraft Corporation  . The color litho was produced in  the early 1960's. The litho is very clean, great bright color and ready  to be framed.  This litho measures 25 inches  long by 19  inches wide.   This litho is very clean and has been rooled up in a tube for over 50  years. The color is great and the litho has a nice clean white border .  The litho was produced in the early 1960's  for the  McDonnell Aircraft Company of St. Louis Mo. The litho predates 1969 when McDonnell Aircraft Co. became McDonnell Douglas in 1969 

I won this for $5.99!  Happy, happy!  Joy, joy!

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, September 10, 2012 7:13 PM

Russ:

Your years of accumulated technical skills are being translated into tiny bits of styrene!

You and Ken could have been watch-makers!

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, September 10, 2012 6:59 PM

Striker8241

Hey All,

Here is the first set of bomb bay door locking assemblies. Trust me, it is a nerve-racking experience to make these things. I'm still shaking Big Smile They're a little bright in color right now but I'll weather them when I do the fuselage.

 

Nice work there Russ!  I will have to say this is some great detail work you are doing.  And I am still enjoying all of the interesting details about the B-52 like the different load outs.  Very cool.  Cool 

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, September 10, 2012 6:55 PM

jimbot58

Well, this is turning out to be one helluva year: just got off the phone with a friend of mine. His mom is in the ICU and it may be that she has liver cancer. It doesn't look too good.

On the bright side, I also found out that the tyrant I work with has been let go. Seems she suffered from brown bottle flu once too often. Couldn't make it to work the Friday before Labor day as she got picked up for a DUI and was in detox... I can't feel sorry about that as she did it to herself.

Hi Jim,

I am really sorry to hear about your friend's Mom.  I know you don't want to relive that memory so soon.

That woman from where you work, I seem to remember you talking about her last year.  She really made your life a living hell.  Mean people suck!  Good riddance!  I don't feel sorry for her one little bit!  It is great to hear that finally someone gets what they deserve!  I hope that this means things will start getting better for you at least at work.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, September 10, 2012 6:40 PM

Bockscar

For Ken:

Thank you Dom!  Great big C-5 Galaxy!  I still can't believe they are going to put one of those in the new wing of the U.S. National Air Force Museum!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, September 10, 2012 6:31 PM

I still have the pattern. I suppose I could make another one but I'll need to do it in a rubber room...

 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, September 10, 2012 6:28 PM

Hope you have a couple spare, murphys law states once you start weather, one will break.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, September 10, 2012 6:25 PM

Hey All,

Here is the first set of bomb bay door locking assemblies. Trust me, it is a nerve-racking experience to make these things. I'm still shaking Big Smile They're a little bright in color right now but I'll weather them when I do the fuselage.

 

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, September 10, 2012 5:01 PM

The Multiple Karma theory is troubling.

There's a saying that "no good deed goes unpunished" - three times?

You pay it forward, then the smack-downs start?....lol

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, September 10, 2012 2:14 PM

Bockscar

.....so they used heavier bombs in the BB, they look like different Mk. I really need to get up to speed on the BUFF's load outs. I think I should start finishing the bombs, heavy artillery always gets my adrenilin up.

Not necessarily heavier in the BB, Dom. They often flew with 500lb bombs in the bomb bay and 750 lb bombs on the pylons. The clips in this photo look like 750 pounders and those are 500 pounders on the pylons. Actually, they used many different combinations. The BB could have 500lb or 750lb bomb clips and either of these weight bombs could be used on the pylons. But we also flew missions with 250 lb bombs on the pylons. It all depended on the objective and also if there were enough of a particular size bomb available.

Russ

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 10, 2012 11:54 AM

Well, I try to love my neighbor as myself but some people are easier to love from a distance...Angel

Know what you mean, had bosses and co-workers that were control freaks, narcissistics, and just plain mean. I hope they have good luck with their lives and things work out for them but thank God I don't have to work with them anymore.... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Monday, September 10, 2012 10:48 AM

We follow the Threefold Law.  What you send out, will come back to you threefold, whether good, or bad.

Kind of like, Multiple Karma.

She may have had a reason to drink, but then again, she may have just been a total Beeotch who had it coming.  We may never know.

Rich

jimbot58

Well, this is turning out to be one helluva year: just got off the phone with a friend of mine. His mom is in the ICU and it may be that she has liver cancer. It doesn't look too good.

On the bright side, I also found out that the tyrant I work with has been let go. Seems she suffered from brown bottle flu once too often. Couldn't make it to work the Friday before Labor day as she got picked up for a DUI and was in detox... I can't feel sorry about that as she did it to herself.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by jimbot58 on Monday, September 10, 2012 8:34 AM

I'm not saying the woman deserved what happened, I'm saying that she is an adult and and made the decision to go out "clubbing" and drink and drive. She often would be hung over at work, and her moods often reflected this. She constantly called in sick for various reasons, often having some sort of "24 hour" disease that somehow went away.

As far as working with her, how would anybody like to have a co-worker who always talked down to you as if you were a bit of dirt beneath her, and constantly went to management to report every error you make, when she  would make more that enough herself. Nobody liked her and one person quit because of her. I believe she was on a campaign to be rid of me at one point and was overheard telling somebody she preferred younger people to work for her as "old" people don't work hard. (At 54, I am the oldest person on the crew.)

The person who quit told me he believed in Karma. I wonder what he thinks now....

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It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, September 10, 2012 3:36 AM

Hey Jim, sometimes the bottle is a cover for something else, yes she did it to herself, but what did someone else do to her to send her there?

Every living being suffers at some point, at those points they deserve our sympathy, no matter how horrible they have been to you in the past.

I dont mean to bring you down Jim, but instead of saying she deserves it, maybe ask, why is it happening to her?

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, September 10, 2012 3:13 AM

You lot stay the hell away from NZ, you're like the walking plague. (im sorry, this joke is in bad taste, im just trying to make you all smile a little.)

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

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Posted by jimbot58 on Monday, September 10, 2012 2:27 AM

Well, this is turning out to be one helluva year: just got off the phone with a friend of mine. His mom is in the ICU and it may be that she has liver cancer. It doesn't look too good.

On the bright side, I also found out that the tyrant I work with has been let go. Seems she suffered from brown bottle flu once too often. Couldn't make it to work the Friday before Labor day as she got picked up for a DUI and was in detox... I can't feel sorry about that as she did it to herself.

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, September 9, 2012 11:07 PM

Sparrowhyperion

Sorry to hear about your Mom Ken.  I hope she feels better soon.  Keep us posted.

Dom, yeh, I really need to get that FGR.2 finished.  It's sitting three feet away from me beckoning to be complete... lol   I love doing non-US birds sometimes.  Some of them have some great color schemes and markings.  At one point I was going to trry and start collecting Tiger-Meet aircraft, but that idea never got out of the hangar. lol

The Big Revell Corsair is finished, painted and decaled.  I had to use my spare decel sheet for it.  The original one disintegrated when it got wet.  Well it was 40 years old after all.  I killed my last can of glosscoat on it, but it came out fairly well, all things considered.  Now I just have 1 or 2 more to finish up before I strat the build kits.  My F5 Aggressor which I am going to find some better decals for to do in NMF, and my Sabre, which only needs decals and clear coat.

Rich

The same thing happened to my decals for my big 1/400 Enterprise, they were 30 years old when I bought them 10 years ago. Even though I sprayed the decal fill on them, that is the experimental piece, they still fragged.

It is as if they need to explode, it isn't a passive process at all.

Maybe I need to find them, good luck on that , and scan.

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