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First Annual Berny Memorial Group Build

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:34 AM

Its sad to see any historical aircraft (or any aircraft for that matter) getting chopped up for scrap.

But i guess you cant save them all.

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Posted by jimbot58 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 11:45 PM

Bockscar

Roger that:

Check this web site:

Boneyard

It's really sad to see all those B-52's chopped up like that. You can actually see this site using google map-you don't even need to use google earth, which requires a download. Just search for the Davis-Monthan Air base and switch to satellite views.

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It's all about classic cars now!

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:34 PM

Im not sure how it is with military aircraft, but with civilian aircraft they sell it to the scrappers, then the scrappers tear it down and sell the parts to recoup their loss.

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:30 PM

Ever it was thus, it happened to all of the WWII planes, now when someone finds a Lightning, or Spitfire, or even a Corsair at the bottom of lake Michigan, everyone goes nuts.

I sure wish I had one of those Phantoms parked in my driveway! Yeah, a waste of a great plane, and a complete waste of taxpayers' toil all right!

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:04 PM

Bockscar

Roger that:

Every time I see a waste of a perfectly good airplane like this, I get angry and sad.I think the Government should remove all weapons and classified devices, then sell them to civilians for a reasonable price.  Collectors would jump at the chance to get one of these to restore, and it would save a little bit of aviation history from the scrap yard.  Considering how much military aircraft ost the government, it's a huge waste of taxpayers money to just chop them up like this.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:03 PM

The ironic thing is in 50 years time theylle be trying to restore these aircraft (not those 2 specifically) to display at airshows as "Vintage warbirds" lol.

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 8:32 PM

Ditto that Mikey.

We work so hard to put 'em together, and look what the scrapsters do......

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 8:09 PM

Thats really sad to see. I think when you join the airforce as a pilot, your issued an aircraft. Thats your aircraft. No matter what, and when you leave you get to take it with you (demilitarised of course.)

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:36 PM

Roger that:

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 3:38 PM

Scorpiomikey

Its really wierd knowing that so many of the aircraft i grew up admiring, are now demilitarized.

 
...or scrapped Sad

 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 3:35 PM

Its really wierd knowing that so many of the aircraft i grew up admiring, are now demilitarized.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:39 AM

Ditto that, Jim! Great recon.

Come to think of it,

my classmates and i probably made those

A-7 vents in high school shop class.....Big Smile

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, September 2, 2012 3:56 AM

Nice photos, Jim. Yes

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Sunday, September 2, 2012 2:58 AM

I made that trip to the museum today. Whoever it was that told me I should buy and extra battery for the camera was right! I exhausted mine and ended my picture making fun too early.

Here is that vent on the A-7D. It looks the same as the picture I posted earlier, with the exception of the missing screw. They must have all been like this.

And one of the pitot tubes I need to add.

And this thing I thought was a blade antennae towards the back, I find referred to as a "fuel vent mast". Note the tube projecting from the bottom.

Something of a different subject is this: They have an FB-111 on display there. The bomb bay door is open and I was able to see this inside when i crawled underneath:

Il,ll share a few more photos later, but I better go- I have been up for 22 hours now and I should sleep, I guess.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 31, 2012 8:58 PM

Thanks, Gam! Smile

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 31, 2012 8:48 PM

Russ: Yay!!! Looks good! Will check you out over on the dio section!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 31, 2012 7:12 PM

Bockscar

Way to go Russ!

Dom

 
Thanks, Dom, and thanks for your advice! Yes
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, August 31, 2012 6:40 PM

Way to go Russ!

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 31, 2012 3:58 PM

Guys,

I've opened a build for my 1/72 B-52D in the Dioramas section(http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/19/t/149616.aspx). I'll continue to update progress on my plane in this build, as well as that one, but will move any further updates to peripheral equipment, like the bomb clips, trucks, revetments, etc. to the diorama build.

Cheers,

Russ

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 31, 2012 3:26 PM

I've been reviewing my pictures of bomb loading and I've decided my diorama isn't going to look complete without a bomb lift trailer, so I'm taking a stab at building one. Below is what the bomb lift trailer looked like and my version of the control end. I figured I'd tackle the easy part first. The wheels are from that HO scale semitrailer that I used for the bomb truck. They're a bit too large but they're the only ones I could find in this format that are close to actual size.

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, August 31, 2012 12:19 PM

Bockscar

Hopefully I won't see those family members for 567 years......lol

Big Smile  Big Smile  Big Smile 

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, August 31, 2012 10:26 AM

Hopefully I won't see those family members for 567 years......lol

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:30 PM

Damn Dom, that sucks. Im relativly lucky that my family is pretty tight nit. We dont see eachother for 5 6 7 plus years then all gather together and just chill like we were hanging out yesterday.

Theres a couple of exceptions of course, always is. Me and my cousin are pretty close (more like a sister to me than my own sister) we always joke that shes the black sheep of the family and im the grey sheep lol. I dont care how people act towards me, when i go, all my posesions are going to my nearest blood relative, weather that be sister cousin parent or child. Someone whos married into the family only gets whats given to them by blood relatives.

Blood is thicker than water.

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:40 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Dom, it was a museum bird, so it's going to look a bit rough with missing and repaired parts.

I am using the smallest tubing I had on hand, and I am in the process of carefully sanding the outside of it to reduce it's wall thickness. Not sure yet of how the scale will be. I may have to find some smaller stuff.

Ken. Thanks for asking. My best answer is that there are bad days, and then there are worse days. Nights and weekends are toughest. I still can't handle being at her house and don't know if I'm ever going to be able to sort through her things.

Jim

Jim, I know what you mean.  I still haven't finished cleaning off the workbench in my Dad's garage after 2 and a half years.  Every time I find a receipt with his signature or some small project he was still working on I start to tear up and have to quit.

Ken

Every situation is different; in the case of my mother, I had powers of attorney for health and property. As attorney though, I had no rights to review her will.

I cared for her for her last two years and was by her side when she passed of a massive stroke. It was a 2 and a half our drive one way to visit her, but I missed work, weekends, and even my wife helped out cleaning her home, paying her bills, talking to the bank, installing a new furnace, doing yard work, taking her to the hospital, and buying her groceries. I would make her soup and meals and put them in tupper ware so she could have handy meals during the week.

She left everything to one of my sisters. Everything.

My father's second wife has a heart colder than a witch's nose. I took him to the cancer hospital two dozen times over two years, and those took the whole day. About two weeks before he died, I was tending to him while the ice queen went out shopping. When she returned, I was chatting with my dad, and singing him little songs he taught us when I was a child.

I excused myself to visit the bathroom, and when I got back to his care room she was bent over him saying "...he's not leaving.....he's not leaving...." my dad turned his head on his pillow and saw me, and he was mortified, and she just kept repeating...   "......he's not leaving.....how do I tell him to leave....."

He didn't leave me a dime either. Her kids will get everything my dad worked for.

So now ice queen wants me to visit the apartment and pick up a few things, including a big 1/24 Supermarine Spitfire I built for my dad, but I hear you guys, I sure as heck am not going back over there.

I'm counting that Spitfire as an MIA, and everyday she looks at it, she'll think to herself ".....it's not leaving.....it's not leaving....."

Dom

Wow Dom, that is really cold!  I know you didn't do all that work for the inheritance but to have that done to you.  Did you every think that maybe the wills were fake?  I mean you know your parents better than anyone else, but do you really think they would do that?

I have already seen my parent's will so I know in advance what to expect.

Ken

Well, you have a point Ken;

I have nothing to feel bad about though, I did what I did for

family, and my conscience is clear. Even knowing what I now know,

I would do it all over again if I had to.

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:27 PM

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Dom, it was a museum bird, so it's going to look a bit rough with missing and repaired parts.

I am using the smallest tubing I had on hand, and I am in the process of carefully sanding the outside of it to reduce it's wall thickness. Not sure yet of how the scale will be. I may have to find some smaller stuff.

Ken. Thanks for asking. My best answer is that there are bad days, and then there are worse days. Nights and weekends are toughest. I still can't handle being at her house and don't know if I'm ever going to be able to sort through her things.

Jim

Jim, I know what you mean.  I still haven't finished cleaning off the workbench in my Dad's garage after 2 and a half years.  Every time I find a receipt with his signature or some small project he was still working on I start to tear up and have to quit.

Ken

Every situation is different; in the case of my mother, I had powers of attorney for health and property. As attorney though, I had no rights to review her will.

I cared for her for her last two years and was by her side when she passed of a massive stroke. It was a 2 and a half our drive one way to visit her, but I missed work, weekends, and even my wife helped out cleaning her home, paying her bills, talking to the bank, installing a new furnace, doing yard work, taking her to the hospital, and buying her groceries. I would make her soup and meals and put them in tupper ware so she could have handy meals during the week.

She left everything to one of my sisters. Everything.

My father's second wife has a heart colder than a witch's nose. I took him to the cancer hospital two dozen times over two years, and those took the whole day. About two weeks before he died, I was tending to him while the ice queen went out shopping. When she returned, I was chatting with my dad, and singing him little songs he taught us when I was a child.

I excused myself to visit the bathroom, and when I got back to his care room she was bent over him saying "...he's not leaving.....he's not leaving...." my dad turned his head on his pillow and saw me, and he was mortified, and she just kept repeating...   "......he's not leaving.....how do I tell him to leave....."

He didn't leave me a dime either. Her kids will get everything my dad worked for.

So now ice queen wants me to visit the apartment and pick up a few things, including a big 1/24 Supermarine Spitfire I built for my dad, but I hear you guys, I sure as heck am not going back over there.

I'm counting that Spitfire as an MIA, and everyday she looks at it, she'll think to herself ".....it's not leaving.....it's not leaving....."

Dom

Wow Dom, that is really cold!  I know you didn't do all that work for the inheritance but to have that done to you.  Did you every think that maybe the wills were fake?  I mean you know your parents better than anyone else, but do you really think they would do that?

I have already seen my parent's will so I know in advance what to expect.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:26 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

I'm not sure what is happening at your end there.

That's what she said Big Smile

Big SmileBig Smile

Hey, the TAG didn't follow the reply!!AngryAngryAngryBig Smile

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:18 PM

Nice job Jim!

Ken

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:45 PM

Yeah Jim, nice work, cool camo!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:28 PM

Buffirn

OK, I think I figured it out. 

So here they are.  A 1/48 Hobbycraft MiG-17 and a 1/48 Revell MiG-21.

Berny's Phantom has to have a target!

They look good, Jim. Nice work!

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:13 PM

Bockscar

I'm not sure what is happening at your end there.

That's what she said Big Smile

Bockscar

If I hit Reply and Rich Formatting, the formatting menu bar comes up on top, and the TAGS dialogue box comes up on the bottom.

I just enter what I want and hit the POST button, and the tag attaches to my post.

Ahh, maybe that's it. I didn't realize you had to post to add the tag. I'll try that now by adding SEA.

Yup, that worked, although it overwrote what I had there already.

I think we're good. Thanks, Dom!

Russ

 

 

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