vetteman42

B17Pilot Did you preshade the panel lines on this one ? I really like the way they came out.

Sorry for the delay, haven't really had much time to be surfing forums lately. No the panel lines weren't preshaded. I used that premixed black wash, can't remember the name of it at the moment. Its acrylic and after the recommended drying time, I used a wet paper towel to wipe away the excess, though it took a couple of coats to get them like that.

Looks good to me Theuns! You can sand the Alclad a little to get rid of the splattering, may have to hit it a couple of times though.

Here is the black gloss on, a few pannels were sanded with 2000 paper to try and get different tone under the alclad

I was however unsuccessfull in that as the alclad went on to heavy and it all looks the same. I will get some different shades with oils.

Then desaster when the airbrushe spluttered and gave a few blobs of silver on the right under wing........to late to fix it now :-(

Note the difference in shine between the alclad and the Humbrol alluminium in the wheel wells.

Hopefully after decals and a pannel wash it will look a little less "clinical"

Theuns

Yep, and even stick the tamyia tape on the underside of your arm before applying. I found this to be really effective to reduce/ eliminate paint lifting. Some people like the 3M brand low tack painters tape too (the blue stuff) but i have never used it myself.

Richard

I have the Tamiya gloss black enamel on the mirage and it gave WAY better smooth shiny surface than the Humbrol gloss enamel or my future over matt idea.

Now I just need to figure out how to mask some pannels (over the pollished allu alclad 2) and not lift it away from the black.

I understand the only real option is using tamiya tape??? The "paper" or "plastic" Tamiya tape??

Thanx

Theuns

them guns are very good mine are cheap and nasty pm models kits i bought i load of them very cheap so im not too fussed about them lol

Eathis: Gee, how did I miss these? Really cool stuff there!

Enrico: Nice work, love the brass guns.

Hi all....same up dates......Ciao Enrico

ps that lightnings is possibly the best model iv EVER seen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

these are both quick nasty and cheap builds of cheap and nasty kits lol

i threw these together yesterday

waiting on decals to finish them
the jag is actually not a bad looking plane
it really does look like a baby tsr2!

P-47 in primer with some panels left grey

Black on , but the future I used for gloss did not go on to well so I needed to sand the whole thing with 2000 wet paper. Just hope it will be OK. The airframe allu doesn't have to be to shiny anyway so I am not to worried about the less than perfect finnish

Theuns

very nice looking pit!

Nice work! Great job all around.

Hi all......same up dates.....it needs only a light van *** washing....before to close the fusolage......Ciao Enrico.

Morn'n Lads.

I was a little dissapointed this morning apon seeing that the primer I sprayed on the Jug has nearly filed the pannel detail. The scribed pannels on this Otaki kit is really fine! The paint wasn't to thick , maybe I just laid it on to much (1 light and 1 med coat)

Anyhow, I will mask off a few pannels in the grey of the primer and paint the rest black ready for the alclad to go on.

Pix to follow

Theuns

I did the Otaki Jug and it's a nice kit for the era. Don't know how it stacks up detail wise, but it certainly has the character of "jugness."

Eric

Theuns: Doogs found this technique and had great success so I 'borrowed' it from him.

1). Undercoat of gloss black

2). Alclad airframe aluminum

3). Post-shade (paint centers of panels) with plain aluminum

4). Light misting of aluminum overall to dampen the contrast

The airframe aluminum is more shiny and slightly translucent showing the black though slightly so it's a little darker. The plain aluminum in the centers is lighter giving a pre-shade effect.

You can also just as said paint the different panels black or grey and then spray everything plain aluminum and you'll get slightly different panels. There's a lot of different things you can do with it, I find the Alclad very easy to use- it's getting a good smooth perfect undercoat that's the problem for me.

I've been sealing the model with Model Master Metalizer Sealer but here lately I've noticed the NM looks kinda dull and off so I may stop using it. You don't have to cover the Alclad with anything. I will spray a little matte varnish on the decals if they're shiny, not sure if they need protection though.

Don't spray the whole model with matte varnish though- it makes the Alclad turn really dull and look like cheap silver paint. I found out the hard way!!!

Guys, I would like to get a few tips on Alclad please. I have the basics down I think.

On the two P-47 featured the previous page, what color did you guys use for the basecoat? I assume it was airframe allu that was used as a final?

I know that some use black and light grey for different shade before the airframe allu goes on, but I also asume it has to be gloss like with pollished allu?

I am going to try and "stain/shade" some pannels with very thinned down artist oils like I saw in an Alclad dvd, but it is also nice to get some first hand know how from the experts here :-)

Do you guys seal the decals afterwards, does it not affect the alclad look?

Thanx

Theuns

Mr. V   while I am working on the Mirage and waiting for some Alclads to come it from the States, I started a 1/48 Otaki P-47 d I want to use to practice some NMF skills before going onto nicer models.

Is there space for it aswell?

Thanx

Theuns

Hi, Can I join up? I'm building a P 38 in NMF. its quite a bit finished, but, I didn't start until Christmas Eve 2012

Thanks

Nice to see so many excellent builds still going. I am actually doing anorher nmf plane but in the vietnam gb. If i had thought about it i could have done it here instead. Ill be watching to pick up more tips from you guys so keep posting :-)

Gamera Looks great buddy !! The markings are really  eyecatching, and gotta say love the noseart.

B17Pilot Sweet man ! Thats what I was lookin for, it looks like a thunderbolt now ! Did you preshade the panel lines on this one ? I really like the way they came out. Great save on the paint mishap too it looks flawless. The front page has been updated with your finished build and your badge is there too.

Theuns Nice to see ya back man That Mirage is gonna look great in NMF, been waiting to see it too.

Dogfish7 your ummmm huge P-51D is in and welcomed. Cant wait to see this monster. You are offically on the roster.

Italian Starfighter Welcome to the group You have a nice start on your build, I too like your cockpit and floorboard work. You are also offically on the roster.

Ohhhhh nice work on the cockpit there! Love the worn wooden floor!

Cliff

Hi modeller........same update.......Ciao Enrico!!

Wow, Enrico - that's beautiful! Looking forward to more of your photos.

Hi all......I'm in your shiny Gb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!With a 1\48 P-51D Mustang Hasegawa.....belonged to the 325Th Fighter Group....Africa and Italy.The plane is double zero chekertail  of Lt.Co. Toner.........Here you are same picture...Hi Enrico.

Oh sorry, I looked at the grey and assumed you'd just primed her.

Mate I wish the Mirage was ready for final finish, but a way to go still. The airframe needs a good prime and sanding. Then if all the imperfections are gone , or atleast small enough for me to live with I will go the gloss black and grey for the Alclad.

It will be a mix of different pannels in airframe allu and some in pollished allu.

The red trim around the intakes and rear canopy is the same as on the Frensh AF birds with SAAF castles, these will have to be AM as the kit castles are incorrect in color.

Theuns

Theuns: Nice work, looks like she's ready for the NM now.

B17: As I said over in the other thread- really sharp work there!

Hi all, after a long "time off" I am back in the NMF race with my 1/48 Hobbyboss Mirage 3 cz in SAAF NMF delivery sceeme.

The airframe is nearing the final prep stage and my Alclads are "on the water" so hopefully it will be done shortly.

Theuns