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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, December 13, 2013 5:23 AM

That is friggin AWESOME!! Now if I can just find one for sale in 1/48 scale................................

                   

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, December 13, 2013 5:54 AM

mustang1989
Now if I can just find one for sale in 1/48 scale..........

I'm searching for you Joe. The kit you're looking for is an all resin kit by R.V. Resins. Seems to be a beautifully detailed kit as it gets some very high reviews. Nothing turned up on ebay yesterday but, I'll keep my eye open for you. Here's at least one link to a build review.

http://hsfeatures.com/fw190v18aw_1.htm

Doug, it appears that it will build up nicely yet, upon opening the box you are struck by a healthy bit of flash to clean up.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, December 13, 2013 5:57 AM

Cool Joe! Even though I'm off of work right now , I'm busier than a one legged man in an azz kickin contest!!! Time to research and/ or surf is out so I appreciate the help. You know you like having a pain in the butt like me around anyways!!!

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, December 13, 2013 5:57 AM

Yeah, I was able to score an Fw 189 in 1/48 scale by MPM, off Ebay. Real nice detail, and also have 3 ICM Bf 109s also highly detailed. Again, good kit Joe, you will enjoy that one.

Doug

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Posted by Chanter on Friday, December 13, 2013 8:17 AM

Wulfstang!

That's a great find Joe.  Looks like something off the island of Dr Moreau. Smile

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Posted by handiabled on Friday, December 13, 2013 8:59 AM

Hey Joe,,,  So,,, since you made this a bit longer I'm gonna (and by me I mean Herman) will throw a kit at this GB as well ,, not sure what,, not sure when ,, but ....Hmm sometime

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, December 13, 2013 9:35 AM

Thats odd Joe, neither of the kits that I found had that much flash... however the G3 I, m doing now does. Its a Revell/Monogram pro kit, but I know that Dragon molded the parts. The last Dragon I did needed virtually no trimming at all. Go figure... still a good find for you!

Doug

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Posted by Greg on Friday, December 13, 2013 10:14 AM

MPM, yet another mfg I've never heard of. Looks like it should be a good one, Joe. Look fwd to watching.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, December 13, 2013 11:09 AM

MPM and ICM are European mfg kits,  (Czech I believe )and the ones I, ve seen are pretty nicely done and fairly well detailed. The Bf 109s have engines and many other features not found in many kits. All in allpretty nice kits for the money.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, December 13, 2013 12:36 PM

MPM!! I have a couple of those kits! The one I have has more flash than a nuclear bomb explosion!!!!

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, December 13, 2013 12:37 PM

Well well well if it aint ol handiabled!!! Man it's great to see you around here again and you are MORE than welcome in here!!! Lemme know what and when pal!

                   

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Posted by Greg on Friday, December 13, 2013 1:32 PM

Doug, thanks for the additional info on MPM and ICM. I like Eduard stuff, so I've already figured I want to try some other Czech stuff.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, December 13, 2013 7:38 PM

Joe (Mustang) ... Brother I dont know what happened to your MPM kits, but just to make sure, I got all 4 of the ones I have out,and checked again, and I swear there is virtually no flashing on either of them. odd, Usually that is caused when the die press has insufficant hydraulic pressure to keep dies firmly together during the pressured injection phase, or the plastic is at too high a temperature (too liqiud) as the styrene enters the screw and is forced into the dies, Oh well ... sorry I went off on a tangent, I think I told you I worked at MPC models when I was a younger guy. Any way... I'm looking forward to some day building the Fw189...Take care!

Doug

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, December 13, 2013 7:52 PM

Doug, You worked at MPC? How cool is that. What did you do? Funny, I still have an MPC B-29 and MIG 15 I got back when I was in high school. They are stored away in my school bus with my other older models.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, December 13, 2013 9:08 PM

Handiabled looks like he's going to join the build here with a 1/32 scale offering.

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, December 13, 2013 9:12 PM

Rigidrider
I think I told you I worked at MPC models when I was a younger guy.

I forgot about that Doug. Sorry. I guess it was Friday at 3 for that kit.

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:23 AM

Hey Joe, maybe the date you bought it caused so much trouble: If you got it less than 6 hours before posting your find here, the date would be Friday 13th here in Austria... Just sayin' Wink That "Wulfstang sure looks cool btw!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:32 AM

As we are talking about rare model finds already, maybe you guys can help me out:

I want to build some kind of aircraft displayin the not-so-near future with the history of Republic Aviation as the theme. I basically want to build every aircraft they built (no experimental ones) in 1/48 scale. Here's what I need:

P-35 (Academy)

P-43 Lancer

P-47 Thunderbolt (Tamiya)

F-48G Thunderjet (Tamiya)

F-84F Thunderstreak (HobbyBoss)

F-105 Thunderchief (HobbyBoss)

A-10 Thunderbolt 2 (Tamiya)

Now what do I need help with? I found a kit for evey plane on this list, but I didin't see any kits of the P-43 Lancer in this scale. Are there any?

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:46 AM

Hey Clemens, Does it matter what scale? I found that Classic Airframes did one in 1/48 and Pavla one in 1/72. I just took a look on ebay and found one of each available. Unfortunately, the seller advertising the 1/48 Classic Airframes kit wants $95.50!!! Yikes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-Airframes-1-48-Republic-P-43-Lancer-/190989710806?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item2c77dfb5d6

You might do a saved search on ebay for "1/48 P-43 Lancer" and maybe you'll get an email alert of one more affordable. That particular feature on ebay has netted me numerous hard to find items at affordable prices. It just requires a healthy amount of patience.

In case you are interested here is the one 1/72 Pavla advertised:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-72-Scale-Pavla-Republic-P-43-Lancer-Model-Airplane-Kit-/201003488037?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item2eccbdd325

I will continue to keep my eye out for any other options for you Clemens.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:08 AM

Morning Joe and Joe... Joe M , Yeah I think your right, Either a monday or a friday model.,  sorry!!! No telling, I guess it happens all the time and I just received a Ju87 kit I bought on Ebay by Hobby Boss and as you said, as much flash as an atomic bomb! lol...

Joe R, I worked for MPC for 7 years, when it was the "Fun Deminision" of General Mills. We had controling interest and owned Airfix of England, Lionell Trains, Estes Rockets, Crafts Masters paint sets and a few more. Most everything was under 4 huge factories in a row in the same buisness park in New Baltimore Michigan, After we consolidated from location in Mt.Clements Michigan.I started out stocking the assy lines, then went to the warehouse working on the shipping and receiving docks, Then to the plating dept and finally to the molding department keeping the Screw Rams going. It was interesting work for a young guy just getting started, and I at times would work over in most any dept. just to see how it worked. That was back in the late 60s and early 70s.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:30 AM

Doug that would be absolutely cool to work for a model manufacturer for a number of reasons! Any perks with the job?

                   

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:40 AM

handiabled

Hey Joe,,,  So,,, since you made this a bit longer I'm gonna (and by me I mean Herman) will throw a kit at this GB as well ,, not sure what,, not sure when ,, but ....Hmm sometime

It is awesome to have you join us handiabled, or is it OK to go by Herman. You can't help but enhance your quality of living by being amongst this fantastic lot.Wink I can't wait to see what you've got for us. Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!

  Joe

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:58 AM

Ditto

Welcome aboard handi! We haven't had too many large scale 190's. Can't wait to see your work!

Eric

 

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Posted by handiabled on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:56 AM

Thanks Everyone,,, haven't been far away just been a heck of a year , sold house, moved, blah blah blah,,, anyway I will let you know which kit it will be as soon as the boss clears it,,( I know weak but true right? )Whistling  Herman of course says nothing.....  but he did stare at me for a bit.....

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Posted by Chanter on Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:06 AM

Welcome aboard Handiabled!

Fellas, I have a quick question about flat coat sprays.  I have a rattle can of Testors, but it is laquer.  Is it ok?  I painted (and futured) with acrylics.  I'm thinking I'm just about ready to dull her up.  This will be the first time I've ever done this, so I'm a bit apprehensive.

Thanks,

Allen

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:10 AM

Great to have you, handi! I'm also looking fwd to watching a 190 in 1/32nd. I think you won't be able to help having fun here, truly a great group of folks.

Doug, extremely interesting that you worked at MPC! Were the molds made in house or were they farmed out? Always thought it would be neat watching a set of molds being made.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:39 AM

Handi... Have missed seeing your work here... welcome back, and Herman too!

Chanter, I'd test it first on a test panel, (ask Joe R about that) I use lacquer thinner alot to thin my acrylics that will accept it,(not all will) but if you have finished with enamel, you may be in for a an un plesant surprise. I painted a "Tru-flame" paint job on a guys roll around tool chest one time using a gloss black base claiming to be lacquer safe, and epoxy candy for the flames, sprayed lacquer top coat over it and the thing "after about 5 min" began to wrinkle! Ruined the entire job. Had to strip off and start over from scratch.

Joe and Greg, We were able to get any thing they produced at 1/2 off, That was about it, Oh and we could rummage through the returned or damaged goods for free as long as you had permission from your super.

Greg, It really depended on the project, Some were done inhouse on CNC machines which was very cool to watch, keeping in mind that this was in the computer infancy stage of machine working technology.Others were farmed out. The cool thing was watching them work in the screw ram and I would marvel at the accuracy and strngth required , being that most of the rams operated at up to 50,000psi.

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:55 AM

I'll bet it WAS fun watching that, Doug. At about the same time I would have been creating our first paper spool tapes for our first CNC machines. What would have really been a hoot would have been watching mold makers produce injection molding molds before CNC. Mind-boggling to me.

And 50% off, cool!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:58 PM

Your absolutely right! That was exactly what they were run on. For a little while I was a tool maker, and did enjoy running a Bridgeport mill but grew tired of standing in front of the same machine day after day and went another path. What was cool about these dies were they were innerchangeable. with other dies.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:04 AM

I can see where doing the same thing constantly would get boring and get to you. Every now and then it's nice to have a challenge!

                   

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