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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:50 AM

Joe: Thanks a lot for those links. 95.50$ is indeed way too much though. Sad Now I know there is a 1/48 kit of this plane at least! I never heard of Classic Airframes. Is it a short run kit? Hmm

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:55 AM

Clemens, I can't say as I know a great deal about Classic Airframes beyond that they have been around awhile and specialized in molding lesser mainstream aircraft. Not even sure if they are still in business. How goes the mass assembly?

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:11 AM

Do you guys know anything about the new Revell 109 G-6 compared to the Hasegawa 109s? I had a look through my stash of German aircraft because I was looking for some decals for my captured P-47 and I realized that there's only a single Bf 109 in said stash Stick out tongue. I'm kinda torn between the Hasegawa G-2 and the Revell G-6. I love the 1/48 Hasegawa 190s and their big P-47 looks very good as well, but the Revell kit is less than 1/3rd the price here in Austria (20€  vs 70€ for the Hasegawa kit). This means that I can get an Aires resin 'pit, Barracudacast wheels and Eduard masks in addition to the Revell kit for the money I'd pay for the bare Hasegawa kit.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:14 AM

The mass assembly is making some slow but sure progress. I'm working at the HGW belts right now and I'll be able to start the fuselage construction after they are finished. I should be able to post an update next week

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:20 AM

I'm not able to help you much on the 109 question Clemens. Is that a Revell of Germany 109? If so, I imagine it's a right nice kit. I'm looking forward to your efforts with the HGW seatbelts. I have a couple of sets of those, 1/48 Luftwaffe and USAAF, but I have yet to use them.

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Posted by handiabled on Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:22 AM

Well everyone my budget was approved ,, so ,, 1/32 Has FW190D-9 ,, Eduard add-ons,  Aires gun bays.....wonderful work here everyone! This is a very talented group of modelers indeed!!!  Looking forward to seeing more builds new and ones continuing , Herman and I will be bouncing in and outta here not sure when we will crack boxes open ,, but they are on the way at least....

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:22 AM

Classic airframes did short run kits.  They went out of business 2-3 years ago. The last couple of kits they did were failures because mainstream manufacturers released the same kit at the same time or very close.  John

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:24 AM

Morning Clemens...

I just last week talked to the owner of the LHS I frequent and being interested in the same kit, was told by him that it was a very nice and well detailed kit for the money. He was also showing me a RLM He219 UHU kit in 1/32 that has just been rereleased and it also is receiving good reviews. I've not examined myself, but am likely going to get one of each after the Christmas  gifting is done.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:34 AM

tempestjohnny

Classic airframes did short run kits.  They went out of business 2-3 years ago. The last couple of kits they did were failures because mainstream manufacturers released the same kit at the same time or very close.  John

That's interesting info John. I thought they were out of business but, certainly did not know why. Thank You for sharing that with us.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:08 AM

Thanks for all the info, guys!

Doug: It's good to hear that it seems to be a good kit!

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:48 AM

Good news re the budget approval, handi!

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Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:54 AM

Classic Airframes kits are Bears to build!! They are short run, multi media kits. their pe and resin bits are really well done, but the fit is horrible and instructions kinda lacking.

 

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:14 PM

Don't forget Clemens, Eduard is suppose to be releasing a 109 G series kit early in 2014. I started to grab the larger RoG 109 but decided I would just wait for the Eduard one.

Eric

 

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Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:36 PM

I hope your right Jester. Vlad hasn't mentioned it in any newsletters or blogs in many months. Is it on their facebook page?

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:51 PM

Eric: I heard rumors about the Eduard Gustavs at my LHS, but aren't they in 1/48 scale? The Revell and Hasegawa kits I'm talking about are 1/32...

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Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:00 PM

If its coming it will be 1/48, yes...From what I've read, the Revell kit is a little over engineered and fiddly, but the detail is nice. The only inaccuracies that would bother me are the goofy looking, undersized bulges on the cowling, and the horrible gear legs.

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:39 PM

Got a bit more done this weekend... Cold and rainy here is the South and my wife home this and next weekend so not much progress to be made, but a little more...

Had to add 2 spreaders in , one at the back of the pit, and one just behind the engine bulkhead but after fitting together a very small area had to be trimmed at the rear wing root but no gaps at all... Thats a first , for me any way... 

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Posted by Chanter on Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:33 PM

It looks great so far Doug; you're steaming right along.

I wish I could say it was cold and rainy here. It was -16C with lots of snow here yesterday. Oh well, it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas....as the song goes.

Thanks for the info on the laquer. I will test first. I may have to order something else, which will take some time this time of year but better safe than sorry.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, December 16, 2013 6:53 AM

Nathan T

I hope your right Jester. Vlad hasn't mentioned it in any newsletters or blogs in many months. Is it on their facebook page?

The secret was revealed at Eday a few months ago! I'm holding out as best I can. I have a slew of goodies for a 1/48 109!!!!! This will definitely be on my list!!!

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, December 16, 2013 7:23 AM

Just sent an email off of Libor at Eduard. We'll see what happens here and get first hand info if we can!!!

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, December 16, 2013 7:26 AM

Doug that looks awesome!! I just love watching your builds come together man! Those seat belts look great!!

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, December 16, 2013 8:10 AM

Awesome work, Doug! Keep 'em updates coming mate!

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Posted by Nathan T on Monday, December 16, 2013 8:45 AM

Thats a great looking cockpit, Doug.

 

 

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Posted by handiabled on Monday, December 16, 2013 9:47 AM

Agreed!!   Very nice indeed!!   Shame the pits are so cramped ,,hard to see all the great detail going on in them,, a retired F-4 pilot friend got to climb into a BF 109 at an air show once upon a time ,,, he stated that they were a close fit without any of the garb the pilots wore back in the day,, and the 190 office looks to be smaller still  ,, keep the pics coming love it!! Cool

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, December 16, 2013 10:31 AM

You know that's an interesting statement handi. I always thought (up until now of course) that the 190 was alot bigger than the 109. It was but not by much. I was surprised to find that the 190 was small in comparison to a P-51. I always thought  the two were fairly similar in size. At least the A's anyways. The D's I think were pretty close in size.

                   

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Posted by Greg on Monday, December 16, 2013 11:01 AM

Your cockpit looks great all snuggled in now, Doug. Glad you are staying sane through the fit issues. Mine are yet to come, as are many questions most likely.

I think the 190 designers should have considered future modelers and realised the cockpit is so small much of the detail work will go unseen. Seriously, I'll bet they were a tight fit!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, December 16, 2013 11:30 AM

Joe... look inside the cover of the FockeWulf Fw190 book, (I think , at work right now) and look at the head on shot of the pilot through the wind screen... all you see is his head, holy s@#t man, talk about clostraphobia...

Thanks for the comments guys... I, m semi satisfied with the pit, but now you know why I like my 32nds, compaired to these 48ths. (GRIN)

Doug

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, December 16, 2013 12:31 PM

Despite the scale Doug you have worked your fantastic magic again! Great work.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, December 16, 2013 3:04 PM

Man, from earlier chat about the cockpit size... Could you imagine being crammed into this and having this view, for any length of time!!!

Sorry guys but I'm right at 6'1' and I dont think so...

Doug

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, December 16, 2013 3:16 PM

Page 2...and yes that is cramped and no....I wouldn't have my butt couped up in something like that for hours at a wack. I forgot about that pic. That is teeny.

                   

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