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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:10 PM

I started on the two Butcher Birds today....

I got all the sub-assemblies for the cockpits together and I'll give them a coat of color tomorrow.

Hopefully I can post some pics then.

Clemens

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, May 13, 2013 6:37 PM

Now thats a nice camo scheme! Cant wait to see this one Doug!

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, May 13, 2013 1:14 PM

I WILL blame ya for sure!!!

Just kiding... Most of the models I'll build are from tamiya or Dragon and I never had really bad fitting issiues with those companies' kits. So it shouldn't get that bad...

Clemens

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Posted by Bish on Monday, May 13, 2013 12:29 PM

Nice to see the cotton tip in action. Thanks Bill.

Clemens, looks like your off to a good start on the GB front. But don't blame me when you start pulling your hair out.Wink

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, May 13, 2013 12:06 PM

It's actually 4 GBs and the one I host LOL!

I didn't write about my entry in the Ground Attack GB...

Another Thunderbolt!!!

It'llneed untill the end of the month to arrive here though...

It's in 1/32nd scale with lots of AM goodies (Big Ed set, seatbelts, wheels, gear bays, engine, gun barrels and AM decals)

Clemens

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, May 13, 2013 11:12 AM

Ok guys. It's been a hectic week with being gone the first three days of this week to Dallas for more training, my sons birthday party on Saturday and my son's birthday/ mothers day on Sunday. Now I'm here playing catch up.

 For starters:

 Reasoned: That build turned out fantastic! You shouldn't cut yourself short on your abilities. It was great having you in this build and am looking forward to participating in more with you. Thank you for being a part of this one. I have posted a pic of your completed build in the intro post.

 Rigidrider: Man I can't tell you how glad I am to see you still building 190's here in this build. You are contributing alot to this build. I have you down for that Monogram 190 that you are going to build in the intro post. I am really looking forward to seeing you "hack" this one up and make an open cowlings build!

taxtp: I have changed your entry from the original entry to the updated Hasegawa build as requested. Looking forward to having you in here. The French build should be interesting.

flyitlikeyoustoleit: Hate to hear youre having fit issues with your Hasegawa build. Knowing what that is ALL about I can really understand. As for the research , for me half of the fun of building a kit is learning not only about the aircraft but also about the units and men in which the machines belonged to. Really good stuff Bill.

Clemens:You are da man for participating in 3 group builds and managing 1 as well. I wished I had it in me. Your input is awesome as well.

 

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, May 13, 2013 4:47 AM

ROTFLMAO,! Glad to have been able to pass on some helpful info!

Take care...

Doug (RR)

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Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Monday, May 13, 2013 12:05 AM

Oh I understand about the cotton, Doug. I'll be diggin for some to keep in the arsenal. But man, you might have created a monster. Watch, I'll be cutting parts off just cuz I can.

Bill.

On the bench:  Lindberg 1/32 scale 1934 Ford Coupe and a few rescue projects.

In queue:  Tamiya 1/35 Quad Tractor or a scratch build project.

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:17 PM

Nice looking cuts Bill!

Eric

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:42 PM

No problem guys, Just passing on some valuable info I was given many moons ago. Bill, I try to use a higher cotton content because its more durable. Polyester works and on smaller models it works good but polyester is similar to the material thats being cut and while it will cut, its being melted also. Cotton is just more durable thats all. The trick is just take your time. Your cut looks great! nice smooth and clean! Pretty neat trick ,huh? Yeah I started cutting up my little Monogram 190 today with thread. Looking forward to seeing some more!

Take care...

Doug (RR)

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:23 PM

SOLD! Given that demonstration Bill I'mm going ti be all over that method. Thanks Doug.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:03 PM

Bill: I haven't tried it out yet, but I'll start on some projects this week:

1) Wildcat for my Carrier GB

2) the 2 Butcher Birds for this GB (I will cut the fuse right after i finish the cockpit)

3) a He-162 for the Special Wingdings GB

4) my favorite: Tamiya's Thunderbolt for the Force of Nature and Reich Defenders GBs

Clemens

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Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:43 PM

Hey, does anyone know if Clemens tried slicing the nose off of his kit yet? Because . . . . Rigid . . . .  that thread method you told us about. That is freakin outstanding, man.

Now, I know you said to use cotton thread, but I only had polyester on hand and gave it a try. If cotton is better, it must just let you sit back and watch while it cuts for you, as I had no trouble what-so-ever cutting the rudder off of my 190 with the poly. Granted, the panel line for the rudder was pretty darn deep so that helped. But, wow! 

This first pic shows cutting half the rudder with a knife.

This second one shows cutting the other half with the thread.

and the 3rd shows the results of both methods. If you look closely enough, you might be able to see that the thread side (left) resulted in a much cleaner cut that required only slight clean-up to get it nice and smooth with virtually no loss of material.

Thanks for the tip, Rigid! It was soooo easy and using the thread this way leaves no chance of screwing up and cutting too far. With how easy that is, I'll probably open up the radio access panel and throw some iteresting bits in there. The possibilities are endless. Gunner ports on bombers; roof hatches on APCs; whatever.

Look out plastic! There's gonna be holes in fuselages where you didn't even know you had holes.

Bill.

On the bench:  Lindberg 1/32 scale 1934 Ford Coupe and a few rescue projects.

In queue:  Tamiya 1/35 Quad Tractor or a scratch build project.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:27 PM

Very cool... That makes it all the more special. I am holding a 1/24 Fw190A for a special build but I'm sure I'll never put it to that use, a former girlfriends Grandfather flew a 190A towards the end of the war, he is long since past now but she was going to get me the info so I could build it for him(in his honor). Still waiting... (grin) Best of luck with the build and cant wait to see it come together.

Doug (RR)

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Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Saturday, May 11, 2013 11:14 AM

Yes, Rigid, Wilhelm "Wutz" and Paul were both KIA. Adolf went on to tell his tales for many a year and is, in some cases, the only source for some of their battle details.  I'm attempting to depict Wutz's A5 that he was flying when shot down Aug 17th '43.

I'm only just learning all of this as I research details for the plane. I'm building it to represent Wutz's final aircraft per my neighbor's request, as I am building it for him.

Bill.

On the bench:  Lindberg 1/32 scale 1934 Ford Coupe and a few rescue projects.

In queue:  Tamiya 1/35 Quad Tractor or a scratch build project.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:41 AM

Thanks Jester I'll check into it...

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:14 AM

I can second Chrome as well, best browser period. I left IE many moons ago and haven't looked back once! I've tried Firefox as well but just didn't like the feel of it.

Eric

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:58 AM

Morning Bill... Yup, thats the one. They were using the standard brown and green camo, and during the winter solid white. Some chose to remove portions of the white exposing the brown and green underneath then adding splotches of black to try and break up their outline. I'm going to give it a shot!

 Thanks for the help, I just dont understand why PB had to change their format. It worked! But NOOOOO... lets change it and make it very difficult to use. If "Chrome" isnt too much problem to download I might just use it too. I mean shoot, even my Email, you click on picture and click on attach...No problem! Any way, Thanks again Bill... Wasn't Wilhelm and his brother killed? I think Adolph was the only brother that survived.

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Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:12 AM

Well, I'm discovering all kinds of things about my Hasegawa 190, some good, some not. The fuselage is a terrible fit. Gonna take a bit of filling to hide the seam on bottom and the cowling doesn't even come close to lining up.

One cool thing though; Wilhelm Galland's  A5 had the retro-fit air intakes. That'll be kind of fun to scratch those additions. Even if I cant get them perfect, they often looked bad on the real planes as they were usually cobbled on in the field. Picture shows the leftside intake (vaguely) and markings for Gallands A5.

Bill.

On the bench:  Lindberg 1/32 scale 1934 Ford Coupe and a few rescue projects.

In queue:  Tamiya 1/35 Quad Tractor or a scratch build project.

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Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:41 AM

Rigidrider

Sorry guys, not sure what happened to the last post. Picture never printed and not sure what garbled the upper text, Any way I will try again top get picture to load...

Thanks

Doug (RR)001zpsb8a2c855.jpg.html?sort=2&o=2

 

Sorry. I give up, I cant seem to get pictures to print, Will try more later...

Hey Rigid, is this your pic?

Whoa, big picture! But yeah, purdy bird.

I was having lots of trouble getting pics to post (especially from photobucket) until I started using Google Chrome as my browser. Now, regardless of where the pic is, I right click on it,choose "Copy Image" then go to the post and right click, choose "Paste" .  There it is. I got this pic from your photobucket. I had to click on it to view outside of the slideshow it was in, and then proceed

Bill.

On the bench:  Lindberg 1/32 scale 1934 Ford Coupe and a few rescue projects.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, May 10, 2013 5:30 PM

Thanks Joe... I thought thas what I was doing, hilite the address on the picture,copy,bring to FSM paste and insert. You see what the results are. Its worked fine up to yesterday. I just sent a request to explain on the photo bucket site. Guess I'll have to see what they say. Might just flee to Flickr. I will check them out if not satisfied with PB reply. Thanks again Joe.

Doug (RR)

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, May 10, 2013 5:19 PM

Hey Doug, Just my take on your photobucket issue. All I do is simply copy and paste. I have had  no troubles so far posting pics.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, May 10, 2013 4:35 PM

Thanks Tony, Thanks Scott... I mean what a process to go through when the old site worked pretty darn good. Reasoned and Joe R... LOL... Yeah maybe a little off the deep end but Im gonna give it a shot! Nathan... this is your fault!LOLOLOL.No, really, Reasoned, not as much as you might think, like you I tend to be a bit frugal, but what the hey.So most everything is less then full price. Thanks guys!

Doug (RR)

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Friday, May 10, 2013 10:25 AM

I was having troubles posting from Photoshop the other day. Go to the right side of the Photoshop page to Links to Share, click on IMG to copy the link. Than post the link in your replies.

Than delete the first part of the link from the [URL to the end of the .jpg.html] leaving only the last partof the link starting with [IMG to [/IMG] and than remove the URL at the tail end. It seems to work for me.

REMOVE... [URL=http://s152.photobucket.com/user/scottpeck53/media/FW-190%20Group%20Build/DSC_0605.jpg.html]          LEAVE...  [IMG]http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/scottpeck53/FW-190%20Group%20Build/DSC_0605.jpg[/IMG

Scott

 

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Posted by taxtp on Friday, May 10, 2013 8:31 AM

Not that keen on the new PB eithe Doug, but not as many problems as it sounds like you are having.

Mustang - I'm down for an Academy A-8, but the aircraft I wanted to do was a French A-5 , so I've ordered a Hasegawa one. Could you change my entry please.

Cheers

Tony

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, May 10, 2013 4:55 AM

  Thanks guys...I am going to give it my best... Just a question, is any one else having problems with Photo Bucket? Man... their "New" format and site SUX!!! I have had nothing but trouble since they forced us to change, and cant remove photos, because it will cause everything previously to vanish. I do everything as before and nothing but trouble, long waits, freezes up, wont uopload or download properly... I mean just ...Man.

Thanks again guys...

Doug (RR)

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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:06 PM

Rigid, You da Man! I cannot wait to see you work your magic on this one. This is gonna be Great!

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:01 PM

LOL, $100.00 in AM in a $1.50 Monogram 190, go for it RR!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Thursday, May 9, 2013 7:42 PM

Sorry guys, not sure what happened to the last post. Picture never printed and not sure what garbled the upper text, Any way I will try again top get picture to load...

Thanks

Doug (RR)001zpsb8a2c855.jpg.html?sort=2&o=2

 

Sorry. I give up, I cant seem to get pictures to print, Will try more later...

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Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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