Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

[View:http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/Devil-Dog7275/media/Heinrich Sterr Fw190 A4 Yellow 2/images_zps54e919fa.jpg.html?sort=2&o=3#/user/Devil-Dog7275/media/Heinrich Sterr Fw190 A4 Yellow 2/IL2-IF-Fw-190A4-6_JG54-Yellow-2-Bar-Sterr-1943-V17_zps84cc5005.jpg.html?sort=2&o=2&_suid=1368142564648010648445420603036:600:0]OK... To start, Scott , nice start...Tex Gunner, Good info, I've always opted to dry brush but there are those times... I will head for the hobby shop this weekend to see whats offered, thanks for the tip! Man Joe, I just cant tell you how much I appreciate you doing this GB. So many great builds and good info being shown here. I Love It!

Well... #3... I found (at a yard sale today) a Monogram Fw190,1/48 scale, STILL SEALED in the box for   $1.50. I thought about leaving in the box....For about 30 sec, Then tore it open. Man, I forgot how cool these old Monogram kits are, The fuselage and wings are just beautiflly rivited and paneled, and the copyrite and molding date in the fuse half is 1968. Well I thought about a thread I exchanged with Nathan where I had not wanted to try and do alot od detail to a 1/48 and his reply was ... They scream for detail too! Well Hell...Why not. My next build will be this 1/48 Monogram Fw190 (A-4) The aircraft flown by

ObLt Heinrich "Bazi" (Rascal) Sterr, 6/Jg54 Yellow 2 bar. This cought my eye while researching and I think is one of the coolest camo schemes I've seen. (Luftwaffe that is) Going as far out as I dare on this one,Aires BMW 801 resin engine,Tru-Detail seat, pit, and wheels, Eduard PE set,White metal landing gear,Eduard guns... There will be alot of scratch built too since this kit has no firewall, engine mount and many other items that will be required. OH, there will be ALOT of thread cutting also, since all panels and cowlings will have to be greatyly altered.

                                             Keep me in your prayers , Please...(ha)

mustang1989

Texgunner

In addition to that silver pencil, one can also buy one in gun-metal color.  That comes in handy sometimes as well.

Gary

I didn't know that. Will be acquiring one of those as well. Thanks a mil Gary!

You're very welcome brother!  

Texgunner

In addition to that silver pencil, one can also buy one in gun-metal color.  That comes in handy sometimes as well.

Gary

In addition to that silver pencil, one can also buy one in gun-metal color.  That comes in handy sometimes as well.

Gary

Archangel: Way to go chief. Youre looking good so far and glad to see you around these parts again, Joe

FlyItLikeYouStoleIt

Well thank you, Joe! Silver lead pencil huh? Is that just a normal graphite writing pencil that's silver instead of gray-ish? Or a special hobby tool? And, would the results be similar to that of dry brushing with silver?

Bill and Scott, Excellent work on both your engines. Very nice detailing detailing and painting.

Well thank you, Joe! Silver lead pencil huh? Is that just a normal graphite writing pencil that's silver instead of gray-ish? Or a special hobby tool? And, would the results be similar to that of dry brushing with silver?

Scott, great progress there. My  kit is lacking a lot of cockpit detail as well. No throttle or throttle friction knob. Missing flap adjustment, etc... I like what you're doing around the gun deck too. I'm going to be peaking over your shoulder for some tips and tricks further on in my build, man

Finally was able to get back onto the build here. Still slow going but making some progress. Now I'm playing around here trying to figure why Photoshop is acting up on me and won't show the pics?

Okay I now have to delete part of the img code. It's always something. Added some detail and pre-shading on the gun decking.

Added cannon plugs down the sidewalls, adding the wiring will be fun. Had cut out the shell casing ejection chutes underneath.

Started work on the cockpi. Surprising a kit this size and it did not have a throttle so that was scratched built. roughed up the seat cushion abit, tried to give the map case a little more depth. Rudder straps is foil from a yougart cup.

Now I'm getting some paint on. Have a lot more to do before it's finish but it's a start.

Now it's a toss up to use either the airscale instrument decal sheet or the Eduard instrument bezel set?

Just test fitting the engine to the mounts. I was going to cut out the exhaust pipes and use metal tubing but decided not to to save time and once painted don't think anyone would be able to tell the difference anyways.

Once I finish painting and detailing the engine, will start adding the wiring, wiring harnesses and hoses. Have found several excellent pics of the BMW engines but none showing good close up shots of the engine enstalled.

I did test fit the engine assembly to the fuselage and it appears that I fixed the Airfix 5mm problem of the fan assembly sticking out pass the cowling rings. So that was a break. Well back to the kit, more later...

Scott

flyitlikeyoustoleit: Man that engine is really awesome! Really like the detail youve put into that thing. Will offer a suggestion for you on highlighting. I used a silver lead pencil to bring out the corners and rounded edges to simulate worn metal. It really works great. Not picking at yours at all. Just trying to give you a trade secret you may not know yet, Joe

FlyItLikeYouStoleIt

Nathan T

RLM 66 is the exact paint for all Fw 190 cockpits. 02 is for all other interior bays/gear. If you don't have RLM paints, Tamiya's German grey looks great for RLM 66.

Some 190 interior pics I've seen seem to show that some surfaces are the RLM 66 gray while others are a greenish color. I was tempted to use a little Cockpit Green but that would only apply to allied WWII interiors, right? If so, what is the green that I've seen in some Fw190 cockpits? 

02 is the gray/green color the Luftwaffe used. I'd be interested in these green cockpit pics you've seen. Can you post them here?

That engine looks great Bill!!

As promised, some pics of the probably complete engine. I might add some additional detail later; we'll see.

I was all worried about those confounded intake pipes for nothing. After cutting off the alignment pins, they all lined up great. 

Moving on to the next adventures.

Nathan T

RLM 66 is the exact paint for all Fw 190 cockpits. 02 is for all other interior bays/gear. If you don't have RLM paints, Tamiya's German grey looks great for RLM 66.

Ok, that's good to know. Our local Ace Hardware has the full line of Tamiya paints and a variety of color-matched, yet  overpriced, options. Might be worth forking over the extra dough as I've got additional Luftwaffe machines in my near future. 

Some 190 interior pics I've seen seem to show that some surfaces are the RLM 66 gray while others are a greenish color. I was tempted to use a little Cockpit Green but that would only apply to allied WWII interiors, right? If so, what is the green that I've seen in some Fw190 cockpits? 

RLM 66 is the exact paint for all Fw 190 cockpits. 02 is for all other interior bays/gear. If you don't have RLM paints, Tamiya's German grey looks great for RLM 66.

SchattenSpartan

That bird looks awesome, Reasoned!

I can't wait to start on my two kits.

I just have a question to you guys:

I am using mainly Gunze Acrylics. Could someone tell me the colors i need for the interior of my planes?

There is a different color in every instruction sheet:

Eduard suggests only a enamel color for the A-8, H-60 for their BF 109 and dragon tells me to mix something myself...

I thought of just sticking to H-60, but i don't think it's the correct color (wasn't the cockpit color changed at some point?)

Clemens

You know, I usually find that the kit's recommendation is the last thing I'd ever use. I've been trying to research the exact colors for interior also and I'm finding conflicting answers. I'll pass on to you what I find. In the end, you can always mix whatever colors you need. But when it comes to spraying large areas (wings, fuse, etc.... ), have you seen the variety of colors available for Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch ULTRA COVER satin spray paints ? No kidding, guys. Check them out. I love that spray paint! It goes on perfectly. Formulated for plastics. And they've got a lot of colors that seem to be made for old military stuff. Just ignore the names of the colors. Our local Menard's has approx 200 colors of it.

Reasoned

Okay gang, she's done!  Was in a hurry to finish up tonight so "the little things" may have been skipped but you get the idea.  As always, your recommendations are greatly appreciated to hone my meager skills.  I already know the mottling mess has to be addressed for further Luft builds.  Got to say this was one of, if not the best fitting kit I've done.  Thanks for a great GB Joe.

Reasoned, that is one handsome bird. Great job! Your skills can NOT be defined as "meager" by any means. I especially like  the surface detail that shows through. You've really done some justice to the old 190.

Others, thanks for your comments & suggestions. There's approx 12 parts to the engine assembly, not including the mounts, hub and prop ..... I basically gave up on the intake manifold accuracy, cut off the little nubs that were there for alignment, proceeded to glue it to the rear radial half and, by golly it all lined up pretty good so, whew. One more little hurdle behind me. As I'm typing this I see that I've yet to upload my latest engine pics. Posting soon

I have no doubt you will ace it mustang!

I meant to comment on that 129 window. Man that was good. Youre making me feel really good about taking this procedure in. Good job on that Eric!!

Lol, thanks Joe and everyone else on the 129!! I was really nervous about sawing out the window and ended up sanding the entire canopy due to some marring from the process but a nice coat of Future cleared everything right up!

Oh Yeah, by the way Jester, after having had a close look at your He129 I feel I need to point out that that is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME. Just thought you would need to know that for future reference.

Thank you again, Nathan

Cheers, Clemens

Yes, but RLM 66 wasnt' used in every cockpit in the early years ('37-41). All fw 190s saw 66 in the pit. Junkers was also know to have used 66 as early as 1939, whereas Messerschmitt retained 02 up until the 109F, which had 66.

Thank you very much, Nathan!

Are these colors sed on every german plane?

Clemens

Gunze H416 is rlm 66 for the pit. RLM 02 is H70 and is used for the gear bays and gear legs.

H60 is Japanese green I think. The difference in kit callouts is Gunze probably didnt' have these colors released yet when the older kits were out.

That bird looks awesome, Reasoned!

I can't wait to start on my two kits.

I just have a question to you guys:

I am using mainly Gunze Acrylics. Could someone tell me the colors i need for the interior of my planes?

There is a different color in every instruction sheet:

Eduard suggests only a enamel color for the A-8, H-60 for their BF 109 and dragon tells me to mix something myself...

I thought of just sticking to H-60, but i don't think it's the correct color (wasn't the cockpit color changed at some point?)

Clemens

Hello, I've got some catchin' up to do.

Stoleit - Boy, I sure like the effect your achieving there. Your technique certainly works quite well. Very nicely done.

Reasoned - All in all I think you've done a rather nice job on your Butcher Bird. There certainly seems to be a small fraternity of us who need to hone our mottling skills. So, don't fret it as you did fine with the brush method. I do hope you hang around and still participate on the GB even though your build is complete.

 As far as my own progress it is slow going here lately. Yet, I am nearly finished with detailing the wheel wells and then I can move on to the upper camo process.

I think it turned out pretty good Reasoned!! Nice looking build to add to a great GB!

I like! Very nicely done...

Doug

Okay gang, she's done!  Was in a hurry to finish up tonight so "the little things" may have been skipped but you get the idea.  As always, your recommendations are greatly appreciated to hone my meager skills.  I already know the mottling mess has to be addressed for further Luft builds.  Got to say this was one of, if not the best fitting kit I've done.  Thanks for a great GB Joe.