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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:22 PM

Alright Gents, Here is my best attempts at capturing my progress so far. The cockpit is painted with MM enamels. The tub is RLM 66, the seat Rust and the harnesses with Panzer Interior Buff. Although it does not show up in the photos I used black and light gray pastels to create a depth effect in the recesses. The floor was given a worn effect using a silver pencil and a brown/black pastel mix. The instuments are painted black and the dials marked with a white chalk pencil. The dials were then touched with a drop of testors clear cement to represent the glass.

Bish - Yeah, My birthday is coming up soon and a new camera will most likely be at the top of my wish list.

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Here a couple of before and after pics of the work to install the brass guns in the cowling. The first is the process of carving out the molded in gun barrels. The second (not so good pic) of the barrels set in place.

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Thanks for checking these out and as always I am open to critique as well as questions.

I'm actually enjoying this little foray into 1/72 scale. Just Thank God for a magnifying lenses. Overall so far the fit of the kit is quite nice. Joe

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 9:55 PM

Nice Joe. Man I just cringe at the thought of 1/72 scale fighters. I like that seat, are the belts pe?

 

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:45 PM

Thanks Nathan. The seatbelts are molded on as part of the resin seat. Working with this 1/72 bird isn't as bad as I initially thought. That may change when I try to scratchbuild a tiny gunsight.

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:52 PM

...I wonder If Quickboost makes some in 1/72. I know I've seen 'em, just not sure what scales. I'm sure you can wip something up though, maybe start with a square then add some punched styrene discs and stretched sprue, and an acetate sheet for glass?

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:49 AM

Looking great Joe. Aside from your good looking paint work, can you imagine making those barrels on a lathe? Or being the tool maker that makes the dies to stamp out the PE sheets? I mean ...Just darn... Hope to see more soon.

Doug

PS, a new camera is high on my "really want" list too,

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:22 AM

You know Joe I have to give my hats off to you. I have a high degree of respect for anybody that can pull a  72nd scale fighter off with the detail of a 48th scale or higher. I think its just astounding the amount of detail that is available for that scale these days. I'll never attempt it but I sure do like it. Good paint work on that Joe.......really good!

                   

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:31 AM

Thank You Very Much Doug and Joe.

Thanks for the tips Nathan. I will do a quick search for an AM gunsight. My intentions were to simply carve the appropriate hole in the shroud and simply afix a small piece of thin clear plastic or acetate to it to give the representation of a gun sight rather than go whole hog on dials and wiring. I credit myself with a good degree of patience but attempting to detail out a 1/72 gunsight may be pushing it for me.

This talk of PE & resin has led me to realize that I failed to mention something. I got the True Details resin cockpit along with the Eduard PE detail set with the thought that I would utilize the PE to enhance the resin cockpit. Yet, upon opening the PE set I found that it is a complete cockpit. Tub, seat, the works including flap and landing gear detail. Well, now I did not wish to pick parts out of this and waste the set. My solution. Why, buy another kit kit for it of course. Went on ebay and managed to snag another kit just like this one for a reasonable price. Besides, I also have this magnificant decal sheet with still more F8 options and I would further hate to see those go to waste. Thusly, if time allows I may end up building a second F8 for the GB. The sweet thing about this kit is that it is an A8 kit that comes with instructions and parts to modify it into an F8. So, I could go the A8 route also.  

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Posted by Jester75 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:37 AM

Nice work on such a tiny 190 Joe!!

Eric

 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:37 AM

I admit to being guilty of not following this GB as closely as I should, mea maxima culpa.

But, here's a little work that I've begun on the PCM early A series kit-  the resin engine is pretty sweet and has enough detail to look good hidden behind the cooling fan and the resin cockpit is OK.   I've added some kit-supplied PE (by Eduard) for the switch panels, rudder pedals and what-not.   There's still a bit of work left in the office as I haven't yet begun to do the seat or IP.

So, that's where this stands...

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Posted by Nathan T on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:24 AM

Lookin good Dre. It'll be nice to see an early Anton here.

 

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:41 AM

Yup,  that pit is shaping up nicely! Got to love those etch pedals!

Eric

 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:54 AM

Ugh, I hate PE pedals..  you notice there's no toe straps?

I might kick-off a parallel Hasegawa F-8 to go with this A...

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:12 PM

Dre thats looking great! Love the PE pedals. So far so good

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:17 PM

Well so far I'm still plowing ahead. I started on the wings with no photoetch because I figured, "Whos gonna look? I got to a point where I ordered my 20 mm MG151 gun barrels yesterday morning and that was as far as I could go. Well this morning I woke up at around 4 am and though  "What do I do this morning?" I figured I'd go ahead and install the photo etch panel walls for the rear of the landing gear bay and I'm glad I did. I have before and after photos. The first is a rough draft with no clean up of excess wash but will show no PE panels. The second is just with the PE panels installed with no paint yet. It already looks KA!! Check it out:

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:33 PM

Big diff. Joe, Looks great.!!!

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Posted by Jester75 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:58 PM

The rivet detail that the pe added was def worth it!

Eric

 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:28 PM

Yeppers, that added detail livens up that gear well.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:55 PM

OK, armorment from start to finish, The Barrels are RB ordered from Ebay, actually came from Poland in about the same time it would take to get them from inside the US. The upper twin MG17s, and the wing root MG151 20mm auto cannons... The actions were part of the Verlinden resin kit I bought to dress her up a bit. I liked the Verlinden kit, and other then a few snags while trying to get to fit (no fault of PE /resin kit, it was mfg for a Hasagawa kit and I built a Revelle) I am very satisfied with the results thus far...

Doug 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:17 PM

Hot Dog! Now, that's some great activity going on here. Some really fine stuff.

Dre - Fabulous start on the office and engine. I commend you especially on the very nice painting detail on the engine.

Joe - That PE definitely dresses out the wells very nicely. Your doing some really excellent work on your 190 especially considering the obstacles you've encountered. Keep it coming as you know how much I love your work.

Doug - OK, now that is downright sweet. Absolutely terrific work on detailing and painting the guns and the bays. I have to agree with you on the workmanship that goes into these metal gun barrels regardless of scale.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:34 PM

I'll tell you...forever I would try to experiment to get a realistic metal finish (in perticular gun metal) but only had marginal success, until I started using Metalizing paints.They come in various types of metal finishes in buffing or non buffing. I'm still learning some tricks to them and man are they nice! They come in lacquer and say airbrush only, but for small items it can be brushed. check them out when possible, Play with them a bit, I think you'll like em too. alot of the time, I will brush on maybe a base coat of steel or stainless , let it dry then brush on a coat of gun metal, then when dry, buff down with a Q tip. What a difference it makes.

Doug

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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:07 AM

Doug, very sweet detail work going on in there.   Those barrels are the bomb-I've been saving some for a 'good project'- it might be time to break them out.

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Posted by Buckeye on Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:10 AM

Doug, very nice work there!

Mike

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Posted by stoutfella on Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:08 PM

Greetings,

Having wrestled my Revellogram P-38 into submission for the Twin Boom Group Build, I'm delighted to get back to my Tamiya stash and I'm ready to roll on my 190.

Still trying to decide which markings to use. Probably either black 10 or white 12. Also trying to decide whether to go for any aftermarket goodies. I'll definitely add PE belts, but not sure about anything else.

Looks like there's some really nice work going on here. I'll try to keep up.

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:21 PM

Cool. Jump right in!

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:45 PM

Thanks guys... Dre... BREAK EM OUT! lol... If all goes as planned I should be able to finish up this weekend. I hope... After this I have another commitment but intend to return shortly to do another, this time an A-5 (I think) flown by a Battle of Kursk pilot who force landed behind enemy lines and was never heard from again.

Stoutfella, I've built that kit and its a nice one! I've seen some of your work and you are really going bring that baby to life! Cant wait to see the progress.

Doug

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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:49 PM

Oh Boy! That looks like a good one there Stoufella. Bring it on.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:13 PM

Nathan T

...I wonder If Quickboost makes some in 1/72. I know I've seen 'em, just not sure what scales. I'm sure you can wip something up though, maybe start with a square then add some punched styrene discs and stretched sprue, and an acetate sheet for glass?

There are a few companies that make gunsights in 72nd, both resin and PE.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php?product_category_id=&product_division_id=&manufacturer_id=&code=&product_type_id=all_aircraft_accessories&scale_id=956&keyword_search=Gunsight&setPerPage=100&currency_id

The Quickboost ones look rather nice, but they would be a bit waisted unless you build a lot of aircraft that need them. It does make me smile somtimes when i see comments about 72nd aircraft. But then i have been building them for over 20 years and its all i am really used to. When i finally get round to doing one of my 32nd kits, my brain isn't going to know what hit it.

Some great work guys.

Doug, those guns look brilliant.

Joe, that pit looks great. From somone who builds a lot of 72nd, that is some great work.

Dre, looking good.

Mustang, same for you, looking good.

My apologese as well for being a bit absent. I have been really trying to get my Stuka done so i can start my 190. All going well, it will begin on Monday. And maybe we can get some of you to convert to 72nd. Mustang, Nathan, i am looking at you. Wink

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:19 PM

Bish
Mustang, Nthan, i am looking at you. Wink

Yeah right!! Nice try but that aint gonna happen. I went from 24th scale down to 48th and thats where it stops right there pal.Stick out tongue

                   

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Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:27 PM

...I do have a 1/72 Ju88 in the stash. After building Dragon's monster 1/48 kit, I decided to move down a scale notch for big bombers....Thats it though!! lol!

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:29 PM

Still got time to work on you Mustang.

Well thats a start nathan. Which kit do you have.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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